Jack of All Trades Mafia -- OVER!

[Quagmire]

hmm, well, i guess there isn't much more for me to say, but i really, really think that mos is scum. he never took a certifiable position on me (he was waivering back and forth as far as i remember) until today, where it was already known that i'd be a sure lynch.

[Thok]

Quag-other than MOS, who do you think is likely to be scum.

How many scum are left in the game?

Why did scum kill Pooky last night?

[Yaw]

Vote Count:

Quagmire (3): Mastermind of Sin, Save The Dragons, spectrumvoid

Not Voting: Coron, Quagmire, Thok, mystery meat of doom

4 to lynch

[spectrumvoid]

Do we have a more-or-less complete list of offices and abilities? Should we take stock now?

[Thok]

I would prefer to wait a day to discuss offices. But that's just me. Unless somebody has multiple cop investigations, I don't think it's particularly helpful.

[spectrumvoid]

I really should start making myself clearer... There was a list somewhere of people who have claimed certain offices with certain abilities. I lost it, because I accidentally deleted it from my computer when I was clearing out stuff.

The reason I'm asking is because I need to consider who to shift where.

[Quagmire]

i'd say spectrumvoid. is it confirmed that scum can't have an office switcher?

[Thok]

Hello. Office powers and alignment are completely independent.

Could you answer the other questions I made in my post?

Why aren't you more concerned about the upcoming deadline? What do you think about MMOD? Why did you reveal your former office role unprovoked?

[Yaw]

Well, mystery meat of doom didn't pick up the last prod, so he is now being replaced my ThAdmiral.

To give ThAdmiral a chance to catch up, I'm revoking the deadline. However, without some pick-up in participation you can expect it back.

[Quagmire]

i think that MoS and spectrumvoid are our remaining scum.

my thoughts on mos have already been posted: i don't think that he took a certain position on anything until today started, in which it was basically confirmed that i was going to be the main target of the town's lynch. this is really the only time that he attacked or voted for me with any confidence. these "positions" of his seem consistent throughout the game.

spectrumvoid has lurked the great majority of the time that we've been playing, and lately seems to continue flaunting his "office switcher" role as if it's already confirmed and that he's innocent. it feels like he's trying to

prove

his innocence to everybody by saying, "look, guys, i'll switch roles again. do you want me to? is this okay? c'mon, just say the word" without any need to do so.

so, with that said, i'd like to lynch mos today and spectrumvoid tomorrow.

vote: mos

anywho. what's thadmiral got to say about all of this?

[Thok]

@Yaw-is ThAdmiral even around/has he picked up his role PM yet? His post in the signup thread was several months ago (and was at a time when he posted in about 20 replacement threads at once.)

@SV-from what I remember about offices, I'm not sure of how much benefit you will get out of switching offices (I don't think there's any super special awesome offices remaining that will win the game for town; people won't get the benefit of them for at least another night). I mean, feel free to switch offices, but don't expect it to be that helpful.

my thoughts on mos have already been posted: i don't think that he took a certain position on anything until today started, in which it was basically confirmed that i was going to be the main target of the town's lynch. this is really the only time that he attacked or voted for me with any confidence. these "positions" of his seem consistent throughout the game.

MOS has taken strong positions on things in this game (particularly his attacks on TheCesspit/CES and his attacks on pablito-he may have been wrong about those, but he certainly took strong positions). In addition, he was one of the people attacking you yesterday.

Yes, he didn't start looking at you until yesterday, but that's partially because you/Harry Potter have massively lurked throughout the game; you/Harry Potter have basically gotten away with being ignored most of the game.

spectrumvoid has lurked the great majority of the time that we've been playing, and lately seems to continue flaunting his "office switcher" role as if it's already confirmed and that he's innocent. it feels like he's trying to

prove

his innocence to everybody by saying, "look, guys, i'll switch roles again. do you want me to? is this okay? c'mon, just say the word" without any need to do so.

You're a fine one to accuse people of lurking. Morover, SV's lurking is a more recent phenomenon (earlier in the game she was posting a lot.)

It is confirmed that SV has an office switcher role. I feel like you are massively stretching to get that she's flaunting the fact of her power.

[Yaw]

Yes, ThAdmiral is around. I checked to see that he had posted recently when I found I needed a replacement, then PMed him to ask if he was still interested. I wouldn't have announced the replacement had he not responded.

[spectrumvoid]

I am NOT lurking... I an just finding it very difficult to say something in this game. I have nothing to go on here.

[ThAdmiral]

Yeah, I'm here. Just reading through still.

[Thok]

Yaw

please prod Coron.

As I'm posting elsewhere, I will be unlikely to post much Friday through Sunday.

[Mastermind of Sin]

I'll try to post next week, I have a final tomorrow and then I have to move out the next day and move in on Sunday. I want to take a look at the rest of the players before we lynch Quagmire.

[Quagmire]

MOS has taken strong positions on things in this game (particularly his attacks on TheCesspit/CES and his attacks on pablito-he may have been wrong about those, but he certainly took strong positions). In addition, he was one of the people attacking you yesterday.

Yes, he didn't start looking at you until yesterday, but that's partially because you/Harry Potter have massively lurked throughout the game; you/Harry Potter have basically gotten away with being ignored most of the game.

I've hardly lurked the last couple of days.

Listen, I still don't like me as a lynch -- I can guarantee you that I'm pro-town -- I've been contributing as much as any lately and I'm trying to get people to look at who is probably more deserving. I still feel that spectrumvoid flaunts her office switcher role like it's confirmed that she's town. But, you know.

[Thok]

You've only "not lurked" because you've come under massive amounts of attack for lurking. The only way I've gotten any info out of you is by repeatedly asking you qustions and forcing you to post. My ttack/MOS's attack were what stopped you from lurking.

Moreover, you've now made additional scum tells; I've pointed out how I think your arguments about MOS and SV are flawed, and you've ignored them.

Do you really think "I'm protown, I guarantee it!" is any sort of defense?

[ThAdmiral]

progress report: about halfway through. Back to reading...

[spectrumvoid]

Checking in. Quagmire is scum. Kill him.

[Save The Dragons]

I don't think spectrumvoid is scum, although how she's dealing with her switcher role is kind of wierd...and the fact that scum have kept her alive, too...

Did somebody do the pooky thing to her?

[Quagmire]

You've only "not lurked" because you've come under massive amounts of attack for lurking. The only way I've gotten any info out of you is by repeatedly asking you qustions and forcing you to post. My ttack/MOS's attack were what stopped you from lurking.

Moreover, you've now made additional scum tells; I've pointed out how I think your arguments about MOS and SV are flawed, and you've ignored them.

how is that a scumtell at all? i haven't read the game previous to the point i replaced in, so when you're telling me pretty much factual information about parts of the game that i don't know about, i feel pretty compelled to believe what you say. i'm just basing my scum feelings off of what i've played through so far.

Do you really think "I'm protown, I guarantee it!" is any sort of defense?

no, but if the only evidence against me is through your process of elimination, then there's really not too much i can defend myself against, now can i?

[spectrumvoid]

I'd say my role is not as powerful as some of the roles out there... considering I'm not very sure what is in what office at the moment...

What pooky thing?

[Thok]

You've only "not lurked" because you've come under massive amounts of attack for lurking. The only way I've gotten any info out of you is by repeatedly asking you qustions and forcing you to post. My ttack/MOS's attack were what stopped you from lurking.

Moreover, you've now made additional scum tells; I've pointed out how I think your arguments about MOS and SV are flawed, and you've ignored them.

how is that a scumtell at all? i haven't read the game previous to the point i replaced in, so when you're telling me pretty much factual information about parts of the game that i don't know about, i feel pretty compelled to believe what you say. i'm just basing my scum feelings off of what i've played through so far.

You replaced into the game in December. You've had months to read over the game. I'm not going to take "I haven't read the game at all" as an excuse, especially when it takes maybe ten minutes to check your comments on indivuidual people. Especially since the most common thing people have asked you to do since yesterday is, to know, read the game.

And selectively choosing to defend against arguments is scummy; it allows you to pick and choose which arguments are part of the discussion, and make it appear you are defending yourself, when you are not.

[Quagmire]

You've only "not lurked" because you've come under massive amounts of attack for lurking. The only way I've gotten any info out of you is by repeatedly asking you qustions and forcing you to post. My ttack/MOS's attack were what stopped you from lurking.

Moreover, you've now made additional scum tells; I've pointed out how I think your arguments about MOS and SV are flawed, and you've ignored them.

how is that a scumtell at all? i haven't read the game previous to the point i replaced in, so when you're telling me pretty much factual information about parts of the game that i don't know about, i feel pretty compelled to believe what you say. i'm just basing my scum feelings off of what i've played through so far.

You replaced into the game in December. You've had months to read over the game. I'm not going to take "I haven't read the game at all" as an excuse, especially when it takes maybe ten minutes to check your comments on indivuidual people. Especially since the most common thing people have asked you to do since yesterday is, to know, read the game.

you underestimate the power of total laziness. of course i wasn't going to read the game in the first place -- that's way too long for me to give a damn about.

and "especially when it takes maybe ten minutes to check your commends on individual people" -- what does that mean?

And selectively choosing to defend against arguments is scummy; it allows you to pick and choose which arguments are part of the discussion, and make it appear you are defending yourself, when you are not.

what arguments have i not been paying attention to? because all i see is "process of elimination".