Event Card Mafia (Game Over)

[PeregrineV]

19 pages behind. I'll go through them, but anyone want to offer up a summary?

[Iecerint]

UNVOTE: Veto

[Iecerint]

VOTE: Nacho

[AGar]

Why are we wanting to Veto something that scum has gone for the veto with? (even if they haven't voted in the proper format), since everyone managed to get replaced, I'm not seeing the issue with this event.
The ones we're want to use it on would be Latency or 3 Person Shootout.

That wasn't the scum claim.

VOTE: Nacho

And this seems directly contradictory to what I just quoted. Good job!

19 pages behind. I'll go through them, but anyone want to offer up a summary?

TIP is scum but we're going to let him live another day.
Scum vetoed Dia de los Muertos.
We rolled "Nomination" for tomorrow which has quicktopic and Gladiator-esque shenanigans for the mechanic.
Some people thought because of activity concerns that vetoing Nomination would be wise.
Nacho is scum because he used the scum formatting for his veto.

TL;DR - Vote Nacho. Read up while his corpse swings from the gallows and we can kill TIP tomorrow.

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To those arguing something to save Nacho - the town veto is the first one listed. The only reason he would know the scum veto formatting is

because he had recently used the scum veto-ing format.

Full stop. End debate. Occam's Razor is not your friend here, and anything you say to go otherwise just reads as a scumclaim.

[TheIrishPope]

What's his L- at?

[Iecerint]

Well, the word VETO is in bold in the Mafia section, so it might draw the eye more. But yeah, it's pretty tortured reasoning.

[Iecerint]

Caps, rather.

[Magua]

What's his L- at?

Better question: Do you think Nacho's scum?

[PeregrineV]

1. Because I didn't realize he had claimed and was sick of him.
2. Because I've been semi-lurking.

Do you normally make uninformed uses of your roles?

If you were sick of him, was it because you read him and were sick of him?

what semi?

PV this is scummy. These questions are not going to tell you you whether Aronis is scum.

We'll see how he answers.

[Iecerint]

He doesn't really have a choice with regard to how he answers them.

"I routinely use my role poorly; thanks for asking!"

"Nope, I didn't read the game!"

"You're right; I lurk everywhere!"

The questions do not allow him to answer in the above way, so they are just designed to put him into a defensive position.

Anyway, I think he ignored them.

[Juls]

Nacho is at L-2

[TheIrishPope]

What's his L- at?

Better question: Do you think Nacho's scum?

I don't think his play was indicative of him being scum but the veto vote is really a compelling point.

[Magua]

Well, so why did you ask what L- he's at? Do you think he should be voted or not?

[TheIrishPope]

Because I was curious?

[Magua]

If you were really curious, you could've looked at the vote count on the previous page and figured it out. Would've been faster than asking.

But: Do you think he should be voted or not?

[TheIrishPope]

Too lazy. Counting really takes a toll on some people.
I think he should be voted, yes. But let him speak first.

[zoraster]

Day 2

Aronis ( 2 )

ActionDan

Nachomamma8

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(L - 10 )

Bulbazak ( 3 )

Brian Skies

zMuffinMan

Prof Fridays

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(L - 9 )

Nachomamma8 ( 9 )

Papa Zito

Metal Sonic

Bulbazak

Juls

Iecerint

Agar

Cheery Dog

ZZZX

Oversoul

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(L - 3 )

Oversoul ( 1 )

Venmar

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(L - 11 )

TheIrishPope ( 4 )

talah

Magua

Aronis

farside22

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(L - 8 )

Not Voting ( 3 )

PeregrineV mnemonicdevice TheIrishPope

Total Votes ( 22 )

Needed to Lynch [ 12 ]

VETO VOTE

VETO < 5 > Papa Zito farside22 Venmar Oversoul Aronis

Deadline

Deadline is May 15 at 16:00 EDT --- Time Until Deadline: (expired on 2014-05-15 16:00:00)

Current Active Event:

Double Action

Tomorrow's Event:

Nomination Day

[Iecerint]

Need 3 votes in 24 hours.

[PeregrineV]

Not vetoing nominations. It seems like it will give us focus to scumhunt the 2 others in the group.

I ignored a <b></b> formatting tag one game, and they were scum.

I can believe it here.

Vote: Nacho

[Juls]

Pv, link please to the game you ignored it in.

[Nachomamma8]

This is the dumbest fucking wagon I've ever seen in my entire life.

[Nachomamma8]

The fact that TIP isn't voting anyone...

This has been warped into a scumtell in recent times even though it goes against the face of what actual scum play means. Actual scum play means that you're playing for survival purposes, while NOT VOTING YOUR COUNTERWAGON flies in the face of that. Not voting your counterwagon (because your counterwagon is pushing you too hard!!) means that you're not lending support to alternatives and instead means that you're making it more likely that you're going to get lynched. Scum has absolutely 0 motivation to do this except to pull off a sneaky sneaky "pretending to be town move" which I think most people here (minus talah) can agree isn't a TiP-scum move at all.

[Nachomamma8]

And if you were thinking, you'd see this.
This shows you're not thinking.

[Iecerint]

This is the dumbest fucking wagon I've ever seen in my entire life.

It's not that dumb. I think you should be able to appreciate why it is a very rational wagon.

If townNacho legit made up a syntax that just happened to match the mafia one, then I'm sorry, but it's pretty damning.

[Nachomamma8]

Btw I am a pgo do not visit me at night

This is 100% a lie: BRO's not an absolute shithead and would claim PGO in his first post if he was one. It doesn't make sense for Metal Sonic to gambit in order to prevent getting killed in this game because he's not a likely kill this game and wouldn't think he was going to get killed. Scum.