Event Card Mafia (Game Over)

[farside22]

So aronis, tip, Pere, papa zito and oversoul.
Those are my lynch list oh and the player that replaced bro.

[farside22]

Why not Bulbazak?
Do you not have any response to my latest posts?

*looks at reasons why nacho thinks bulba's scum, turns nose up at counter wagon*

[Nachomamma8]

*looks at reasons why nacho thinks bulba's scum, turns nose up at counter wagon*

[Bulbazak]

Had minor scumreads on both Aronis and Venmar but both of those kinda went up in smoke a few hours ago.

Why? That vig act actually increased my suspicion.

Dayvig + Nightvig?

Merrr. Nope.

So far the people who've posted on this page are probably town except PZ.

So you don't think Aronis's role is real, but yet you still call him town?

Dammit. Why Zito? I'm still semi-unsure about lynching him. But idk anymore.

Why were you okay with sheeping Juls onto Talah but not Zito?

i would vote zito but... i'm voting scum

also

whatever town does in this game, please don't let nacho make it anywhere near lylo. it's not his fault he replaced into a scum slot, but he did, and it's unfortunate, but *shrug*

You really need to reconsider your reads this game.

Frankly I looked at the case wanted to point to papa zito doing the exact shit and said forget it. I'm tired of arguing.

Why did you vote me then if you saw this inconsistency in the case?

I'm curious mostly why bulba finds it suspicious that muffin is talking about his feeling in regards to aronis.

It was the contradiction of him hard defending Aronis and then refusing to take a stance on him.

I could get behind the following lynches:
Papa Zito - I'm not going to lie, this is mostly proximity to kill and the fact I think scum would want their most suspect player to make the kill. When I did my "interest in lynching" post on day 1, Zito was at the top.
Deltawave - 10 posts in 73 pages. 2 serious posts ( and I am being generous since one was during RVS), 1 joke post, 7 prod dodges/no content posts.
Deathnote - no original thoughts. Making an art form out of sheeping.
Aronis - hated the day vig shenanigans.
PeregrineV- haven't read anything out of this slot that makes me think he is town.

I'd compromise on any of these except PV. I'd prefer a TIP lynch, though.

For what it's worth, I find Aronis's failed shot on Venmar suspicious.

I do too. Now explain to me why TIP is town.

[farside22]

Why did you vote me then if you saw this inconsistency in the case?

I more glanced at it saw things I agreed and disagreed with and felt at the time it was a good place to vote.
Next day went back reread you in ISO and changed my views on muffins case.
Revoted tip because he is scum.

[ActionDan]

VOTE: Aronis

seriously if I were a town dayvig I would never shoot claimed a claimed BP. ever.

Of these two wagons I'm loathe to vote either of them. Bulba is sensible and TIP... well he voted Iecerint and it seemed towny to me even if the rest of everybody thinks its the most awful thing ever.

[Nachomamma8]

TIP, can you just state the point that you are trying to make?

Muffin, well I don't get it.

Those posts were made when I was a Cult Leader. I questioned everything and everyone to appear town. it worked. this is what talah is trying to do. he's scum.
Tony PF is his partner. Quote this when they nightkill me.

This is the in your face, lacking logic posting I've come to know and love from TiP-town. This is what I meant when I referred to blindly brazen.

I read TIP's post

people do this?

Well I did win as scum against you, so you better start?

This also seems pretty town from TiP: muffin ignoring him in most games is a pretty fine situation from TiP scum, so shittalking in an attempt to change the situation seems pretty protown to me, and, more importantly, unlikely to be coming from scum.

...and the rest of his posting is along the same lines. Yeah, he's lurked a fair bit, but he's aggressive as hell when he shows up, he's had strong suspects and pushed them... What's the case on him exactly?

[farside22]

If people refuse to read the game I refuse to keep explaining or linking cases.

[mnemonicdevice]

Ugh. 250 posts of catchup. Expect a post from me in a little bit.

[Juls]

/briefly suspending my hiatus

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=13046
Zoraster game with town tracker and mafia tracker. Also has a time element which might come into play later. Might be a helpful read. Funny, I was the mafia tracker but it was so long ago I had forgotten about it. Still don't really remember it but found it on my wiki.

/back on hiatus

[Juls]

Oops, misread, no town tracker...ignore. But still..a mafia tracker

[zoraster]

Day 2

Aronis ( 1 )

ActionDan

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(L - 11 )

Bulbazak ( 6 )

Brian Skies

TheIrishPope

zMuffinMan

Oversoul

Nachomamma8

Prof Fridays

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(L - 6 )

Iecerint ( 1 )

DeltaWave

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(L - 11 )

Oversoul ( 1 )

Venmar

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(L - 11 )

talah ( 1 )

Aronis

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(L - 11 )

TheIrishPope ( 7 )

Agar

talah

Iecerint

Bulbazak

DeathNote

Papa Zito

farside22

Juls

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(L - 5 )

Not Voting ( 4 )

PeregrineV mnemonicdevice ShadedMelee ZZZX

Total ( 22 )

Needed to Lynch [ 12 ]

Deadline

Deadline is May 14 at 20:00 EDT --- Time Until Deadline: (expired on 2014-05-14 20:00:00)

Current Active Event:

Double Action

Tomorrow's Event:

Dia De Los Muertos

DeltaWave has been prodded. Also, reminder: I am on VLA until Monday afternoon

[zMuffinMan]

proddodge because fucking tired and don't have time atm

[TheIrishPope]

Well then

I posted this without reading, will read now

[farside22]

The Tip is scum and not hiding it post.

Holy shit TIP, that looks an awful lot like your cult meta.
Why do you assume that I would be newbscum in this game?

@Reck - do you remember Hip Hop Mafia and how I said in the scum QT that I attacked you because I *knew* you wouldn't be lynched? TIP is acting to my scum meta, what do you think about that?

It actually looks nothing like my cult meta lol
What is my "cult meta"
You're newbscum because this is your second scum game as you said previously

And now you use your scum meta so it applies to me? Hypocrite much

"Everyone who scumreads me is scum waaaaaah"

Except me.

You are irrelevant to this game.

To whoever asked me if I equate Cult (third party) with Mafia, the answer is no. However, in the game TIP posted there was no mafia, only cult and town. So in that instance, yes, I do equate them.

As Cult you have no partners, and as scum you do have partners, so the two are completely different and should not be "equalizisied"
I know it's equated bitch gtfo

What are the reasons for scumreading me?

You came in early game with scumreads based on crap reasoning and then just sat on them and coasted. I could maybe see the first coming from town TIP, but I'd then expect to see you interacting with the game more and to see your reads evolving. They're not, and you're coasting on your earlier posts. That's indicative of TIP-scum.

That's actually pretty good reasoning.
I think the amount of lurkers in this game is really not letting me go to my fullest potential with reads and such, day two or three you'll see more of the revered "best town performance" TIP
If the scum could please kill the lurkers first I'd appreciate it

I am probably inclined to lynch tip at this point on the grounds that I think talah is town.

And thiiiiiis is where I knew Iecerint was scum.


More incoming.

This post is the same case that Tip talks about Talah repeated for the same fucking thing all day long when that is not happening any more.
Lets also mention the OMGUS vote towards Iecerint for calling Tip scum over Talah.
Like wow really that's is so scummy because in Tip's world

I don't think OMGUS is something that scum do more than town, I said that the way Iec did it is indicative of scum play

What makes one OMGUS worse then anything else?
Oh it's drunk posting.

Ugh TIP I'm out for the night but on the off chance you're town:

- why then did you say I'd be newb scum before I mentioned it in-thread (this is provable)
- if your cult meta is asking a bunch of questions, then why isn't you asking a bunch of questions your cult meta
- why am I a hypocrite if I say you're scum for emulating my scum meta, when you're scum reading me for emulating *your* scum meta? Isn't that just putting a fine point on an incorrect argument?
- why is Iecerint scum?

Dude you're just scumreading me because I'm scumreading you, admit it

1. I said you were newb scum becaaaaause you were acting like newb scum; warming up to the best players and being safe
2. When people talk about meta, they refer to a collection of games over a certain long period of time with recurring trends. This was only one game where I tried this one thing and it was similar to what you were doing. "Cult meta" might have been the wrong term you wanted to use
3. That's the thing, I did thing X, you called me out for thing X and then you do thing X nonchalantly
4. A real Townie would consider the possibility of the both of us being Town. Iecerint is not a real Townie.

4 on this list is fucking laughable.

VOTE: AGar
Pretty convinced that he's hard tunneling low hanging fruit to look town.

Voting Agar for voting him and low hanging fruit.

Prof Fridays is probably scum now that I think about it.
Getting less negative vibes from P5.
I can get on the Iec wagon.
VOTE: Iece

Low hanging fruit comment, uh... not much to say about it, pretty obvious that i'm not the best around and I'm not too bad that the lynch would be obviously coming from scum but not too good that it's impossible to lynch me

Vote's Iece, back tracks low hanging fruit crap.

ActionDan
DeathNote
DeltaWave
mnemonicdevice
Prof Fridays
talah
TheIrishPope

Not in ease of picking order because that's reaaaaally subjective

List of low hanging fruit includes Talah, the person he poked and prodded and tunneled on all of game day fucking 1.
Umm no.

I did catch up
Content...
Iec is still scum because there is no fucking way town would omgus as blatantly as he did
I didn't vote hop, i just know when to stop pushing for a lynch that simply won't happen
And there's nothing I can say right now that will make me seem town so enjoy your mislynch

Still Iec is scum because well tracker claim, but lets not mention how that makes Talah or Dan's claim any fucking different. This is just jumping on a BW for BULL FUCKING SHIT REASONS.

He's a very fucking skilled scum player

lolwat

farside I think your problem is "I'm seeing this guy, he's not doing what I would do as town, ergo scum" which is really faulty reasoning and muffin is trying to explain but you just don't listen

misrep

So unvote?

cuz anyone that defies Bulba's train of thought is scum duuuuh

More misrep.

I did catch up
Content...
Iec is still scum because there is no fucking way town would omgus as blatantly as he did
I didn't vote hop, i just know when to stop pushing for a lynch that simply won't happen
And there's nothing I can say right now that will make me seem town so enjoy your mislynch

So scum-Iec claimed tracker-with-no-result on Talah because.................?

Iec is still scum.

Tracker is probably the safest and laziest PR scum can fakeclaim as, no result only furthers the idea

Yep, people are voting me because I'm TIP
I'm the paramount lynchbait

VOTE: Bulba

Oh I don't know why I'm voting Iec, lets vote the new bandwagon that is not me, on the person I agreed made sense on day 1.
Right, I believe you think Bulba is scum like I believe that fucking fake vig shot from Aronis

I kind of lost my reasoning as to why scum Iec would claim Tracker so I'm moving to the next best lynch
Bulba just has it out for everyone who disagrees with her, doing it with more frequency and more fervor than talah

And apparently disagreeing is a scum tell.
Lets not mention that is a complete and utter fucking lie at this point.


Finally
@Nacho: Please explain how 2 post you see as pushing and TIP's cult game he referenced is any different as far as pushing crap reasoning goes.

[TheIrishPope]

Scum wouldn't still be pushing me this hard.
UNVOTE: Bulba
I must conclude that Bulba, AGar, and farside are all town.
They've got their reasoning backwards but I don't see why scum would still be pushing seeing that my wagon isn't getting the necessary support.
You know what I'm saying?
This being said, scum should be those who are fencesitting and/or lurking

[TheIrishPope]

farside:
1. how is misrepping a scumtell? is it only a scumtell because I'm misrepping you?
2. why do you say misrepping is a scumtell and then proceed to misrep me?
Sad thing is you're town.
Shame.

[farside22]

farside:
1. how is misrepping a scumtell? is it only a scumtell because I'm misrepping you?
2. why do you say misrepping is a scumtell and then proceed to misrep me?
Sad thing is you're town.
Shame.

You know a peeve is when people don't read everything and I as mysel repeatedly why do I bother.

1. It wasn't just me you misrepresented. You misrep agar with the low ganging fruit shot, bulba and myself.
2. Why would town misrepresent? Well I'm full of piss and vinegar so let me tell a story. Misrep happens all the time. See for me I do it because I half read shit and people get frustrated. You look to misprep to discredit people. Why would you say those things otherwise?

[farside22]

Ganging=
Hanging.

[TheIrishPope]

You didn't answer point 1
You avoided point 2

Please answer appropriately

[farside22]

You didn't answer point 1
You avoided point 2

Please answer appropriately

I anwsered 2.
If you believe I have not explain why. And explain how according to you, me agar and bulba have everything backwards.

[farside22]

Oh and for shits and giggles what did I misrep about you tip?

[ZZZX]

additionally considering I got some bad vibes from Tony PF at the beginning.

What gave you these vibes. Be specific.

I didn't get an answer here.

@ZZZX:

Who are TiP's scum partners?

Or here.

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Yep, people are voting me because I'm TIP
I'm the paramount lynchbait

VOTE: Bulba

UNVOTE: Prof Fridays - Vig plz
VOTE: TiP

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@Agar

who are your scumreads again?


P.S. I don't believe the Aronis stuff but not cuz of what Farside is saying.

Back from V/LA and I missed your post lol. Anyway I will finish re-reading and Inform you k?

[DeathNote]

farside:
1. how is misrepping a scumtell? is it only a scumtell because I'm misrepping you?
2. why do you say misrepping is a scumtell and then proceed to misrep me?
Sad thing is you're town.
Shame.

Is this serious? Do you understand the purpose of misrepping? Scum do this to discredit a case or make a town players post seem inadequate or pointless.

By extension, Misrepping is lying and you know what happens to liars.

[Bulbazak]

TIP, can you just state the point that you are trying to make?

Muffin, well I don't get it.

Those posts were made when I was a Cult Leader. I questioned everything and everyone to appear town. it worked. this is what talah is trying to do. he's scum.
Tony PF is his partner. Quote this when they nightkill me.

This is the in your face, lacking logic posting I've come to know and love from TiP-town. This is what I meant when I referred to blindly brazen.

I understand. In fact, I said myself that this could come from town TIP. However, I'd expect town TIP to then engage with the game more. He didn't. He stuck on the Talah vote, didn't bother expanding on it, and proceeded to lurk the day away, only popping up to say that Talah was scum. In essence, he voteparked and coasted, which is not town TIP behavior. You can't just get this from reading an ISO, Nacho. You have to see it in the context of the full game.

Scum wouldn't still be pushing me this hard.

Why not? I'd imagine your wagon would be a great place to vote park if you were town.