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Post Post #1750 (ISO) » Thu May 08, 2014 11:12 am

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In post 1744, PeregrineV wrote:I hadn't thought about the geography much since it's going away, but I'll go look over it again.
Are you thinking that once the NK target was selected, that probably the closest available scum did the kill?

Because the only issue I have with that is "why bother?" Chances are good the target won't be protected, so in that case I wouldn't think distance would matter. Pick the kill, send the gooniest/least likely to be tracked.
I'll come back to this later (gotta go to work, it's Friday morning here and then *yay* a week off) but my thought would be that scum wouldn't want to fuck up the geography mechanic so they would almost certainly make the kill in their own room (so we can probably PoE that there is scum in whatever room the scumkill was made in).

I want to clarify this with Zor as well. But my now-understanding of the facts is that if scum submitted a kill against a PR who made an action in a different room, the kill would fail. If that's not the facts then I'm really going to have to figure out why. (Or actually fleeting thought - would it only be true in that case if the PR was non-investigative PR due to resolution order, and in the case of an investigative PR it would succeed unless the kill was *two* rooms away? Anyway back later.)
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Post Post #1751 (ISO) » Thu May 08, 2014 11:18 am

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In post 1749, farside22 wrote:Talah: where did you see the soft claim day.
I didn't specifically see day, but I don't think it's by any means impossible that a vig role could be Day/Night agnostic. If that's what you meant. Otherwise:
In post 953, Aronis wrote:
In post 951, zMuffinMan wrote:Talah votes are shit

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Post Post #1752 (ISO) » Thu May 08, 2014 11:34 am

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In post 1746, Papa Zito wrote:
In post 1743, Oversoul wrote:I guess it is just a never ending cycle because that's why I think you're scum.

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No. I think you're scum because you aren't really contributing, which you say is because people are calling you scum.
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Post Post #1753 (ISO) » Thu May 08, 2014 11:35 am

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In post 1750, talah wrote:
In post 1744, PeregrineV wrote:I hadn't thought about the geography much since it's going away, but I'll go look over it again.
Are you thinking that once the NK target was selected, that probably the closest available scum did the kill?

Because the only issue I have with that is "why bother?" Chances are good the target won't be protected, so in that case I wouldn't think distance would matter. Pick the kill, send the gooniest/least likely to be tracked.
I'll come back to this later (gotta go to work, it's Friday morning here and then *yay* a week off) but my thought would be that scum wouldn't want to fuck up the geography mechanic so they would almost certainly make the kill in their own room (so we can probably PoE that there is scum in whatever room the scumkill was made in).

I want to clarify this with Zor as well. But my now-understanding of the facts is that if scum submitted a kill against a PR who made an action in a different room, the kill would fail. If that's not the facts then I'm really going to have to figure out why. (Or actually fleeting thought - would it only be true in that case if the PR was non-investigative PR due to resolution order, and in the case of an investigative PR it would succeed unless the kill was *two* rooms away? Anyway back later.)
I think this is wrong. A kill will work regardless of how far away the target is. Geography comes into play for kills only in that a roleblocker could block the kill if the roleblocker was closer than the kill target, or a doctor could block it if the doctor was closer to the target than was the killer.

In other words, the things that stop kills are nerfed by Geography, but the kill itself isn't.

But I am awful at figuring out how it works, so clarification would be nice.

I am not caught up at this point because I've been ill and am just getting back into things.
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Post Post #1754 (ISO) » Thu May 08, 2014 11:41 am

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Day 2

BROseidon ( 1 )
farside22
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Bulbazak ( 4 )
Brian Skies
TheIrishPope
zMuffinMan
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Iecerint ( 2 )
ActionDan
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Papa Zito ( 1 )
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I am happy to try to clarify most things about Geography, but I'll need direct questions that don't require me to interpret your intention.
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Post Post #1755 (ISO) » Thu May 08, 2014 11:45 am

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In post 1752, Oversoul wrote:No. I think you're scum because you aren't really contributing, which you say is because people are calling you scum.
Ok, what would you like to see me doing differently

also

Why aren't you attempting to make me contribute more if that's basically your sole reason for that read?

plus

I'm assuming you believe there are other non-contributors to the game, do they have scumreads as well?
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Post Post #1756 (ISO) » Thu May 08, 2014 1:06 pm

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mid terms + homework due tomorrow etc busy. can only offer a prod dodge
I'll give you a moment to let that sink in
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Post Post #1757 (ISO) » Thu May 08, 2014 1:17 pm

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In post 1755, Papa Zito wrote:
In post 1752, Oversoul wrote:No. I think you're scum because you aren't really contributing, which you say is because people are calling you scum.
Ok, what would you like to see me doing differently

also

Why aren't you attempting to make me contribute more if that's basically your sole reason for that read?

plus

I'm assuming you believe there are other non-contributors to the game, do they have scumreads as well?
More analysis like above.

I had my vote on you earlier in this day and it did nothing. I've moved onto bigger and better things. I can bring the horse to the water, but I can't make it drink. That's up to you. :|

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Post Post #1758 (ISO) » Thu May 08, 2014 2:02 pm

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In post 1742, Papa Zito wrote:tbh it's hard to get motivated when I keep getting "zito is teh scumz" over and over with nothing to defend against

Farside doesn't count cuz that case was lulz.

Waaaahhh people calling me scum, so I'm going to do nothing in the game because I'm butt hurt. Waaaahh.

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It is called mafia for a reason, either push a case at this point or get lynched.
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Post Post #1759 (ISO) » Thu May 08, 2014 3:09 pm

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Every time I open this thread there's this annoying buzzing sound, it's p weird.

In post 1757, Oversoul wrote:I had my vote on you earlier in this day and it did nothing. I've moved onto bigger and better things. I can bring the horse to the water, but I can't make it drink. That's up to you. :|
:|
In post 1757, Oversoul wrote:Yes.
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Post Post #1760 (ISO) » Thu May 08, 2014 4:01 pm

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In post 1732, talah wrote:Why did you tell him to use his shot on you?

If you're town and he's town, you've just wasted two shots of town power.
Umm because I didn't believe that he had one to begin with, or that he would be so daft to be so easily dicked into "shooting" me, which i'm not convinced he actually did by the way.
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Post Post #1761 (ISO) » Thu May 08, 2014 4:03 pm

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FYI, theory alert, I believe one of Zito and Oversoul are scum, guaranteed, if not both.

Why?

Molla was in their room and Molla died. I was also in said room. If Molla was shot in the same room as a claimed bodyguard, it would have to be someone close to Molla or someone close enough to me to block me, so a kill on Molla could be carried out in confidence.

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Post Post #1762 (ISO) » Thu May 08, 2014 4:08 pm

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This theory of course makes it likely that I was the one blocked, not Talah, which makes Talah the lying tracker if Iece got a null on her when she claimed to have visit me.

Unless in the brief period I was inactive I missed intricate details about the actual night actions of Iece and AD.
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Post Post #1763 (ISO) » Thu May 08, 2014 4:12 pm

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Urrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

So

Venny concludes

Same thing I said before

Scumreads of Talah, Oversoul and/or Papa Zito, and Juls as the less associated with the others scumread.

Of course i'm not dillusional and realize none of these people are getting lynched today unless I turn into like Mattp or some other wagon forming wizard, but the other wagons right now really are shit.
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Post Post #1764 (ISO) » Thu May 08, 2014 4:41 pm

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Which is basically what I suggested earlier about Zito....I didn't think about that with talah but it is a good point.
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Post Post #1765 (ISO) » Thu May 08, 2014 4:53 pm

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In post 1764, Juls wrote:Which is basically what I suggested earlier about Zito....I didn't think about that with talah but it is a good point.
Can you reiterate the good point in your own words please?

Because it's provably fucking stupid.
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Post Post #1766 (ISO) » Thu May 08, 2014 5:03 pm

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Well that was completely unnecessary and very fucking rude. See post 1522.
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Post Post #1767 (ISO) » Thu May 08, 2014 5:06 pm

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Ergm.. sorry - to both of you. I was going to post an apology immediately afterward but started to explain why it was incorrect as well and am at work and don't have the time or headspace.
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Post Post #1768 (ISO) » Thu May 08, 2014 5:06 pm

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The good point is you could be the one lying. You thinking you are beyond reproach is really starting to piss me off. Guess what, if you are town, you AREN'T God's gift to town. Your ego is ridiculous.
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Post Post #1769 (ISO) » Thu May 08, 2014 5:06 pm

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And not exactly unusual. But anyway.
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Post Post #1770 (ISO) » Thu May 08, 2014 5:13 pm

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VOTE: talah

I'm just going to sheep Juls until I muster up the energy to do something. :cry:
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Post Post #1771 (ISO) » Thu May 08, 2014 5:17 pm

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You idiot, I am not voting talah. I am voting Zito. I just really dislike talah.
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Post Post #1772 (ISO) » Thu May 08, 2014 5:19 pm

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Dammit. Why Zito? I'm still semi-unsure about lynching him. But idk anymore.
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Post Post #1773 (ISO) » Thu May 08, 2014 5:22 pm

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Why do you even bother coming to this site? Do you just have an urge to type? because you aren't playing mafia.
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Post Post #1774 (ISO) » Thu May 08, 2014 5:30 pm

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Of course.

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