Mafia v. Wolves Redux: Finally Over!

[Akbar]

@MoS
Do you mean as in 2 mafiascum.net accounts, but only 1 player?

[Kison]

What else would he mean?

[Mr. Flay]

MoS, WTH? Is that a roundabout accusation of Akbar defending Shanba?

That was a hell of an opening post from Shanba. It throws suspicion right left and center, which makes me thing 'newbie' before 'scum', but he did replace remus, which is worth transferring a little suspicion. Might be a second choice lynch, but I'd still rather resolve the Raffles thing. Raffles has been weird both days, and the logic has been crazy, when evident at all.

[Mastermind of Sin]

I would be at least a little unsure about my investigative prowess if I was in the same spot.

If you are not Shanba, then I don't care what you would've done in the same spot. If you

are

Shanba, then why are you playing two roles in a single game?

[DrippingGoofball]

@MoS
Do you mean as in 2 mafiascum.net accounts, but only 1 player?

Wow... that question required a "yes" or "no" answer... not answering with another question!

[Raffles]

Look, I consider myself having pretty ordered thoughts, and being accused of being irrational is somewhat of an insult. So long as you give ordered and direct questions, I will try and answer them as ordered as I can make it. If it doesn't conform to the tell, or you suspect me of outright lying then I'm sorry, there is nothing I can do about that. You either have to take in what I say or totally refuse to take it in at all. And if it is on the basis of latter that you are accusing me of;

a) I can't help you.
b) You can't really accuse me of failing at logic. I presented the logic and you are just not buying it.

[Akbar]

@MoS
Ok, 1st off, I only have 1 account.

2nd off, your obviously not paying attention to what I'm saying because I just told you how we lost a game, with both of us town and Shanba voting against me. That would be a pretty strange way to cheat don't ya think?

[theopor_COD]

a justified analysis of me i must say, however if you play with me more, you will know that my games tend to have a 50-50 split:
Those in which i think i know who is scum and attack them like a bull on speed.
And Those in which i have no real clue who is scum, or games that i find hard to get into. This falls into the latter category with both reasons. honestly, its no real tell into my affiliation, but it does give a good indication of how much i care about the game lol.
BM

I can definately see a BM scum here.

Why are you not caring about the game?

[Mastermind of Sin]

@MoS
Ok, 1st off, I only have 1 account.

2nd off, your obviously not paying attention to what I'm saying because I just told you how we lost a game, with both of us town and Shanba voting against me. That would be a pretty strange way to cheat don't ya think?

Are YOU even paying attention? Had you read my last post, I made it rather clear what I meant by my earlier question. It had nothing to do with accusing you of cheating.

[Shanba]

MoS: No, I am not Akbar, and I find your assumption that I would cheat in that way offensive, frankly. (I like your new avatar though.)

Akbar: If I understand you correctly, the gist of your argument is that after having lost Music of Capcom due to voting you the last day I would be less certain about my scumhunting skills and thus my certainty about certain things in my introductory post must mean I have prior knowledge (ie scum). Correct me if I've misunderstood.

Right. Actually because I second guessed myself on the last day that I ended up losing: Primate had been my pick at the beginning of the day. If anything, that game would only serve therefore to do the opposite: that is, be less willing to second guess myself (and thus more certain of my thoughts).

Mr. Flay: The game had been going for about 30 pages when I made my post. In said post, I accused 5 people of being scummy and said there was a link between two others. Over the course of the game, you have accused about the same amount of people. The only difference is that not having had 30 pages to do it in, I had to compress my accusations into one post. Also, with two scum groups, there's probably quite a lot of scum left out there. And though I accept players find me scummy because of my predecessor, there's not a whole lot I can do about that.

[Mastermind of Sin]

OMG! READ MY FUCKING POSTS. YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED SELECTIVE READING RETENTION.

[Mastermind of Sin]

Excuse me, I'm going to go beat my head against a wall.

[Shanba]

Oh right. I'm sorry, but the post above mine I did not see while writing that post.

[Kison]

*gives MoS a ritalin* I tire of reading your sporadic condescending posts. I've yet to see another player get so worked up over these

games

.

Back on topic, I accept DGB's answer about MoS hounding XReyoX, although I disagree.

OR, in light of this comment, it makes you look bad, for blatantly bussing your buddy.

@MoS. How does raffles being a scum makes DGB oneas well?

Because DGB is trying to stir up suspicion against the person that is most proactively attacking Raffles. If Raffles is scum, this makes DGB look pretty bad tomorrow.

I hate this kind of logic from the Battle Mage. It really irks me because of how WIFOM it is(he tried pulling this on me in another game). There's a profound difference between what MoS is doing, and what DGB was suspected of doing. If Raffles came up scum, there'd be no proof that MoS was scum BUSing his partner. He could very well be scum, however, in DGB's case, there's plenty of proof that he

did

attempt to sidetrack the Raffles wagon, although we would still be unsure of why, that is where the concern of his reasoning comes in.

[Akbar]

@Shanba
That is the gist of what I'm saying and you still haven't outlined where you claimed I was role-fishing XreyoX.

[Battle Mage]

Kison i suggest you dont use other games that are still being played. i think i know which one you are talking about, but it really means very little when neither of our affiliations are known...
@Theo-did you read my previous comments. Im finding this game tough going because of all the speculation, and petty arguments we have had of late.

*gives MoS a ritalin* I tire of reading your sporadic condescending posts. I've yet to see another player get so worked up over these

games

.

Back on topic, I accept DGB's answer about MoS hounding XReyoX, although I disagree.

OR, in light of this comment, it makes you look bad, for blatantly bussing your buddy.

@MoS. How does raffles being a scum makes DGB oneas well?

Because DGB is trying to stir up suspicion against the person that is most proactively attacking Raffles. If Raffles is scum, this makes DGB look pretty bad tomorrow.

I hate this kind of logic from the Battle Mage. It really irks me because of how WIFOM it is(he tried pulling this on me in another game). There's a profound difference between what MoS is doing, and what DGB was suspected of doing. If Raffles came up scum, there'd be no proof that MoS was scum BUSing his partner. He could very well be scum, however, in DGB's case, there's plenty of proof that he

did

attempt to sidetrack the Raffles wagon, although we would still be unsure of why, that is where the concern of his reasoning comes in.

[XReyoX]

Mod : replacement for me pls

thx

[Mastermind of Sin]

Kison i suggest you dont use other games that are still being played. i think i know which one you are talking about, but it really means very little when neither of our affiliations are known...

a) Raffles didn't say which game, so he's more than allowed to make a comment like this
b) Raffles comment had nothing to do with alignment. It's bad logic regardless of your alignment. He was just pointing out that you have a history of bad logic, since you've done it to him before.

[Raffles]

I think you mean Kison...?

[Mastermind of Sin]

Err, yea. Sorry.

[Battle Mage]

what does Raffles have to do with this?
you seem pretty over-protective of him, especially considering I DIDNT EVEN MENTION HIM.
as for the comment itself, it is pretty obvious what game he is talking about-if i know, anyone in that game (a few people here) will also know.
BM

Kison i suggest you dont use other games that are still being played. i think i know which one you are talking about, but it really means very little when neither of our affiliations are known...

a) Raffles didn't say which game, so he's more than allowed to make a comment like this
b) Raffles comment had nothing to do with alignment. It's bad logic regardless of your alignment. He was just pointing out that you have a history of bad logic, since you've done it to him before.

[Raffles]

I'm thinking I should go and join MoS in painting the wall in an interesting shade called brain...

[Mastermind of Sin]

Indeed.

[Mastermind of Sin]

as for the comment itself, it is pretty obvious what game he is talking about-if i know, anyone in that game (a few people here) will also know.
BM

BM, the point is, he didn't specify which game it was, so there's nothing wrong with that. Even if you can figure out which game it is, because you're in it (obviously), he still didn't mention it, so it's fine. Also, like I already explained, his comment is true

regardless

of your alignment, so it doesn't matter that the game isn't over yet. If you are scum in that game, it'd be further evidence against you in this game. If you are town in that game, it's be further reason to take everything you say with a grain of salt...more like a

shaker

of salt, or perhaps a box.

[Kison]

BM, if you bothered to read, MoS meant Kison when he said Raffles.

I think you mean Kison...?

Err, yea. Sorry.