Ether/Nightfall:
Ether "okay with a Zindilynch". Followed by a post with pretty much no analytical content about Zindy. And then the reiteration of eight points against Nightfall. I find most of them unconvincing and stretches of the imagination, and but this one was a legit albeit unusual observation:
Nightfall adds a summary at the end of his Channel PBP--this format made it the odd one out
and led me back to Nightfall's PBP post to see if Ether's reaction was what I'd consider appropriate.
Nightfall on Adele: he states flatly whether he agrees or disagrees with her most prominent D1 points.
on CDB: same, with added summary expressing potential concern after agreeing with most of CDB's D1 actions.
on CES: agrees and disagrees, finds fishing "odd".
on Ether: paints more vividly, alternatively attacking and defending. Points out "misunderstanding" by Ether twice and "don't know if this is scummy in itself". Appears to be genuinely trying to ascertain the nature of Ether's attacks.
on Fritz: uses Fritz's inactivity to defend himself and necessarily doesn't find Fritz scummy.
on Glork: focuses on Glork's playstyle. hesitant to directly attack Glork but makes passive-aggressive attacks seemingly designed to implicate.
Does not PBP on: MGM, MBL, Thesp, Zindy, etc (appears to have gone alphabetically)
Nightfall treats Glork with great caution trying not to give him fuel to counterattack with--apprehension is palpable and they are not likely scum together. He somewhat takes the township of Fritz for granted. He is using instances of Ether's "confusion" to draw suspicion upon her. Did not fuel the Adelewagon. Minimal analysis of CDB's minimalist play. Took a hard look at each of CES's D1 votehops.
What Ether pointed out is not what stands out to me about Nightfall's PBP. At all. The two things that stand out to me are the degree of second degree analysis (how he feels about what X said about Y), which I see as pro-town. And the choice to progress alphabetically as opposed to choosing a set of most likely suspects, which I don't see as pro-town at all. What she pointed out about Nightfall's D3 behavior is not accurate--he stated several times that he wasn't convinced of CDB's scumminess and indicated that was based on rereadings.
Ether's shooing people away from the CESwagon based on her opinion of Nightfall, not based on CES's actions. Her comments on CES are that she won't even try to read him, that she's waiting for other alignments before judging CES, and that "His Thesp fanaticism is getting in the
way
(italics hers); otherwise, I'd hardly care. I won't touch CES in the near future unless Nightfall dies as town".
Zindaras:
If he has limited time, his decision to chip away at the game with PBPAs from day one is bizarre. He had to know he likely wouldn't make it to D4's posts, and I see commenting on D1 only as suspiciously safe behavior. I asked him for gut, as I'm sure he's skimmed/followed the thread, and he hemmed and hawed rather than spitting it out. The biggest hole in this game is info about connections between Zindy and anyone. In subsequent days, survivors should look at who strayed in tone and zeal from expected behavior re zindy: expression of dismay and disappointment and moderate suspicion for lurking.
CES:
Very selective in who he attacks and who he doesn't. Got fixated on Thesp and is riding it. Takes no pokes at me, one FOS of Ether and one vote on Nightfall and no other comments on validity, one brief poke at and FOS of Patrick. Says MGM is town, Patrick is town, Glork is town, Zindy is town. These suspicions and lack thereof look about as considered as you'd get from a RNG. Not only is there no explicit reasoning behind his suspicions, but I can't conceive of the "worldview" that would lead him to his current and apparently firm beliefs.
CES, why are Zindy and Patrick town in your book?
Glork:
I read him as cop and when rereading today in a different light I see a few things. His attacks on Zindaras look like someone going through the motions. He voted Ether for a heretofore unexplained reason, then after a "confusing" post by her, unvoted and not only revoted Zindaras but added me as a major FOS, erasing any hint of his Ether suspicions. Appears to be purely sheeping onto Nightfall, as he's given nearly no analytical comments on Nightfall's lengthy posts. His vacillation between Ether and Nightfall seems incomprehensible.
April 5:
Vote Ether
April 20:
Pretty sure I remember saying "HAY ZINDIE, POST OR DIE" and "I like Ether's attack on Nightfall."
April 25:
Unvote, Vote: Nightfall
Glork, I want to hear more on this turnaround. Also, the case that you're cooking up against me looks remarkably like the case I'm considering with regards to your play yesterday:
dirty scumbag jumping aboard to bus his scumbuddy
(he) knew CDB was screwed, likely because of a Cop investigation, so he decided to look like one of the guys taking CDB down, and then he became responsible for the nightkill of Fritz.
I reread your post history and actually spotted the moment when you realized Fritz was a cop. It was March 16th, halfway through your post, and you suddenly realize Thesp is about to be publicly cleared and you start linking people left and right to CDB. Zindaras, Ether, Nightfall, MGM, MBL, Patrick. Followed less than an hour later by your "knowstuff" comment. And then this odd remark:
I still believe that Thesp is very likely pro-town.
You were suspicious of Thesp as a potential scumpartner of CDB up until halfway through your (Analysis III) when you spotted a coptell. "still believe" implying that you've believed that for some time? Cause you definitely hadn't. You appear to be attempting to anchor yourself as a Thespophile and CDB antagonist, instead of explaining yourself, which would have been unfeasible regardless of your alignment. You attack me for nearly identical behavior, which I don't understand you doing if you're town who just went through a similar revelation as you say you did.
I'd also like to hear you explain why you thought Fritz was a cop and not CES or Thesp.
Patrick:
Dingling around with MGM at the start of the day, somewhat defensive in the face of attacks from an "innocent". Brief analysis of the CES wagon and asks for some literature on its pros and cons. Expresses unambiguous preference for a Zindy death, stating there's a "strong case" for it. Theorizes that scum were not on the CDB wagon and were on the CES wagon, which by process of elimination gives us only Nightfall. Patrick wasn't thrilled to be linked to Nightfall, hasn't found Nightfall scummy most of the game, said twice that he wasn't watching Nightfall closely. Curious focus on disentanglement.
Patrick, what do you think of the case Ether made against Nightfall in March?
