Skruffs, you know as well as i do that mafia is rarely that clear cut. SJ was obviously defending scum-i wont dispute that, but that is little indication of whether he WAS scum. BM the first certainly wasnt, and he defended Lalm for about 10 pages.
rather, in this case, it is significantly more logical for the scumbuddies (who had plenty of time to react, while Lalm was on deathrow) to simply bus him. Kison did so very happily, and his posts carry the impression that he is in no doubt that Lalm will come up scum.
I find it hard to believe that protown Kison would have such assuredness (not a word lol).
also, he made it clear in one particular post that if Lalm came up scum, Bm the first was DEFINITELY the play for tomorrow. Now i can see that it would be logical to be wary of the guy who blatantly defended scum, but lets be realistic, the odds of me outright defending someone like that as scum are ridiculously slim. yet Kison, a fairly intelligent and experienced player, was in absolutely no doubt of such a correllation. Frankly, seeing Kison in other games, he is a bit like me, in never committing himself too much as protown. i cant see him making such a weak comment with such conviction unless he was scum.
of course, it doesnt take a genius to see that, what was REALLY happening was, he had realised that his scumbuddies death was unavoidable, and had resolved to make sure a townie died the next day, by planning lynches ahead.
Look for yourselves and tell me otherwise if you want-i dont mind being proved wrong, but so far no-one has even come close.
BM
Skruffs wrote:JAH - I think it only really gets interesting (and relevant) around page 18 or so. Around the time Lalm blew up.
BM - I'm not sure what beef you have against Kison. Kison was pretty steady in his opinions about Lalm; he never wavered or appealed to the town that Rand was the likely false claimer, or that maybe lalm is just misguided, or anything. He fossed, voted, and then helped cut down Lalm's bullpockie retaliations. I really, really don't think that Kison bussed lalm, becaus eI don' thtink that they are scum, together anyways.
I just think that you are acting on a gut feeling and not really looking at who was defending known scum and is still alive. (That would be SJ/jah). If you really do want to push the argument, supply it with meat. You knowing in your own head doesn't mean anything until you provide a case.
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