Micro 310: Shitty Joke Smalltown II (game over)

[TierShift]

Hmm. I just can't believe Pri doesn't know his vote doesn't count that way.


Anyway, if the fucker doesn't show upbefore deadline, I could vote him, I gues..

[jklash12]

Whether or not that vote by PrivateI counted, that vote sucks and reeks of survivalism.

[absta101]

Yeah, that vote looked bad. Add private to the scum pile.
As of now I have it as Tier/Private/Yiley.

[N]

I edited PrivateI's vote in Post 206 because it was requested in Post 307.

Vote Count 1.10

Mitillos

(0)

Micc

(0)

absta101

(0)

farside22

(0)

PrivateI

(2) Mitillos, Brian Skies

Brian Skies

(0)

TierShift

(1) Yiley

Yiley

(6)

TierShift, jklash12, farside22, PrivateI, absta101

jklash12

(0)

Not Voting

(1) Micc

With 10 votes in play, it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline is in

(expired on 2014-03-26 23:10:08)

V/LA:

farside22 on weekends

[N]

Yiley, the Even-Night Cop, has been lynched!

He was aligned with the

Town

.

Night 1 starts now and ends in (expired on 2014-03-27 21:55:20). Please have all actions to be by then.

[N]

There were no deaths night 1!

[N]

I will be V/LA this weekend.

Vote Count 2.00

Mitillos

(0)

Micc

(0)

absta101

(0)

farside22

(0)

PrivateI

(0)

Brian Skies

(0)

TierShift

(0)

jklash12

(0)

Not Voting

(8) Mitillos, Micc, absta101, farside22, PrivateI, Brian Skies, TierShift, jklash12

With 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline is in

(expired on 2014-04-10 21:55:07)

V/LA:

farside22 on weekends

[jklash12]

Ok, are we going to go with the lynch absta today because of his role?

[Micc]

I think it's still the best play. Part of me wants to lynch PrivateI for being awful, but the smart thing to do is still to lynch Absta.

I don't want that to interfere with getting some good discussion and interactions in though.

Jklash who did you try to send mail to Night 1?
Mitillos, who did you target for doc protect Night 1?
Brian, can you confirm you used the roleblock Night 1?

[Mitillos]

@Micc: I hope you understand if I don't answer that question, until after jklash and Brian answer your other questions, at the very least.

In particular, I think the order of the questions should be as follows:

@jklash: Whom did you send a message to?
@Brian: Did you RB?
@Target of jklash: Did you receive the message? If yes, what was it?
@jklash, if the message was received: Was that your actual message?
@Me: If the message was received: Whom did I protect?

[Mitillos]

As for absta, I think we shouldn't lynch him for strategic purposes.

Let's say that our next actual lynch is PrivateI. For the purposes of analysing worst case scenarios, assume PrivateI is town (roaring guffaws) and farside is scum.
1) If we lynch absta and then PrivateI, we will be down to 6 votes, with mafia controlling 3. They win.
2) If we lynch PrivateI, we will be down to 7 votes, with both mafia and town controlling up to 4. Mafia is only two people, it's easier for both of them to act quickly, they most likely win.

(All the above isn't even an issue, if farside is town.)

The absta lynch buys us one day, but it's a bit of a pointless day, since we already waste one day lynching absta. We do not gain any additional mislynch freedom.

So, the only reason to lynch absta is if we think he's scum. Or if we think scum will play nice and kill the person we were going to mislynch, to give us a sporting chance at victory (more roaring guffaws). But, if we think absta is scum, the scenario above is irrelevant, because mafia doesn't control extra votes, so we might as well go for his partner first.

Now, I am currently townreading absta, so unless the night actions show that he is scum and we can't find his partner (or someone points out an error in my analysis), I will be opposed to absta's lynch.

[Micc]

@jklash: Whom did you send a message to?
@Brian: Did you RB?
@Target of jklash: Did you receive the message? If yes, what was it?
@jklash, if the message was received: Was that your actual message?
@Me: If the message was received: Whom did I protect?

Yeah, I didn't put a whole lot of thought into it before, but I agree with the order above.

As for absta, I think we shouldn't lynch him for strategic purposes.

Let's say that our next actual lynch is PrivateI. For the purposes of analysing worst case scenarios, assume PrivateI is town (roaring guffaws) and farside is scum.
1) If we lynch absta and then PrivateI, we will be down to 6 votes, with mafia controlling 3. They win.
2) If we lynch PrivateI, we will be down to 7 votes, with both mafia and town controlling up to 4. Mafia is only two people, it's easier for both of them to act quickly, they most likely win.

So, we could lynch PrivateI today and if he is town we might lose. Our other option is to lynch absta first then PrivateI, and if they both flip town we might lose. Yet, you want to lynch PrivateI today. I don't see how that makes any sense.

[Mitillos]

@Micc: If farside is scum and absta is town and we lynch absta and then PrivateI and PrivateI flips town, we automatically lose, because there is no way to lynch scum; they control half the votes.
If we lynch PrivateI first and he flips town, there is still the small chance we can avoid losing on D3, by quickly voting for one of the scum, before they get to do their own thing.

If PrivateI is scum, we lose nothing by lynching him before absta.

If absta is scum, we should look for his buddy first, if we can, in any case, since absta can't control his own vote. We have one more day of freedom, if that is the case.

If farside is town, things get pushed back a day, so it's still fine either way.

[TierShift]

So much for being able to read yiley.

I'm gonna run the numbers once again and come up with a plan.

[absta101]

Quick post:
At least one scum is in Tier/Private if not both.

[Brian Skies]

At first I was confused about the question order, but I understand now. I'll wait for jklash before answering.

[farside22]

Micc: who are you scum suspects?

Who here thinks private is town and why?

[absta101]

Okay then Tier, who are your scumspects and why aren't you voting them (Brian and Micc are more vote worthy then Private btw).

You even mention them in this post, so I think you know!

Private is voteworthy for not doing a fucking shit this game. In fact, if he comes back from his v/la and still doesn't do anything, I'd be happy to have him lynched.

What happened to your scum reads on Brian and Micc and why aren't you voting one of them now?

Also, explain why it was better for you to vote Private at the time instead of voting your scum reads Brian and Micc.

[absta101]

Ayway, I'm not getting on board with a PrivateI lynch, since that would really be only because he's lurking (which is not alignment indicative). In yiley's case, the lurking and refusing to get involved ís alignment indicative.
Pri=lurker yiley=scum.

Explain this. Why exactly is Yiley scum for lurking and Private not?
To me all you've said here is that "Yiley is not only lurking, he's also lurking!" Refusing to get involved is lurking.

[absta101]

Guys look at the Yiley waggon. At least one scum is on there. Tier or Private, or both.

[farside22]

math time for a moment please.

8 players
6/2
mislynch today
5/2
N2 mafia send in kill
day 3
4/2
mylo

Micc: Look at the above and tell me why lynch order mater if you think both absta and private are town in any way shape or form.

@Absta: I'm thinking Private is scum.

[absta101]

I'm okay with lynching him but let's see how this day goes.

[jklash12]

I didn't try and send a message. I thought I didn't need to because we agreed to use the RB.

[absta101]

omg

[absta101]

Because of that epic play, we now don't know if the Doc protected someone and succeeded or if the RB took place.