NY 170: Georgetown II (Game Over)

[Aegor]

That is so fucking dumb. Bulba is at 5 votes. Who else is? NO ONE. So if you wanted your way, you should have gotten votes earlier than 14 hours before deadline.

[Rainbowdash]

2.) RainbowDash, convince me why you are Town, and why your play does not fit the mold of "loyal" scum defending Albert B. Rampage. In particular, please discuss what appears to be your avoidance of Albert B. Rampage on Day Three in relation to your kabooooom push.

Because loyalty is town and scum meta.

ABR wagon always had a lot of passive support and then took off after he was being replaced and could no longer defend himself while touching on lots of the same points that applied to others, kab included. Im going to take steps to call that out and try and shut down what quickly transformed into what initially looked like a good information lynch into a mislynch. I have zero problem trying to shut down something I see as a mislynch, and its really easy to tell when I have a problem with leading vote getter.

Also I need to pay significantly more attention because I just realized Matais got modkilled last night. So yeah, with that I see no need to compromise lynch here due to even numbers. Not moving my vote.

[Aegor]

RBD, that is blatantly anti-town given that we have spent this entire day talking. Compromise today and then bring up your dumb-ass no lynch plan tomorrow so we can just end the day immediately instead of after twoooooooooooo looooooooooooooong weeeeeeeeeeeeeeks.

[Rainbowdash]

RBD, that is blatantly anti-town given that we have spent this entire day talking. Compromise today and then bring up your dumb-ass no lynch plan tomorrow so we can just end the day immediately instead of after twoooooooooooo looooooooooooooong weeeeeeeeeeeeeeks.

All basic mountainous logic says no lynch ASAP in games with an even number of players.

Its correct play.

[Aegor]

RBD, that is blatantly anti-town given that we have spent this entire day talking. Compromise today and then bring up your dumb-ass no lynch plan tomorrow so we can just end the day immediately instead of after twoooooooooooo looooooooooooooong weeeeeeeeeeeeeeks.

All basic mountainous logic says no lynch

ASAP

in games with an even number of players.

Its correct play.

Exactly. ASAP. Which has not happened, so let us not waste the effort we have spent. Lynch today and we can NL tomorrow since it does no harm to lynch today.

I will be voteparking you permanently if you impede a lynch today.

[petroleumjelly]

Vote: Rainbowdash

I did not care for Maestro, I think your insistence on pushing kabooooom on Day Three over Albert B. Rampage was an attempt to divert pressure (and awkwardly done, likely for the sake of "loyalty"), and your claim that you did not realize there was a modkill that shifted the balance of the game is not believable.

I will check the thread again in the morning before leaving for my flight (so in about four hours). After that I do not think it likely I will be able to log on before the deadline hits.

Concerning the two other players most likely to be lynched: I am not opposed to a bulbazak lynch, but I would not be in favor of an Aegor lynch.

[Huntress]

@ petroleumjelly:

Re your post 2297.

1) I am offended that you think I would show partiality in this way.
2) I had to choose between mod-killing Matias or leaving the game in night until I had found a replacement as I couldn't start the new Day with two slots unfilled. In view of the length of time I had already been looking I decided on the first option and so removed the earliest one to require replacement. Any further discussion of this must wait till the game is over.
3)

9. Any requests/points addressed to me in the thread (including problems with vote counts) should be bolded.

If you have any complaints/problems with this game, please send me a PM rather than posting them in the thread.

[Huntress]

Vote Count 4.13

Bulbazak (5) - inHimshallibe, Sotty7, Thesp, emogirl123, Aegor
Rainbowdash (3) - Thor665, emeraldemon, petroleumjelly
Aegor (2) - Bulbazak, HighShroomish
petroleumjelly (1) - kabooooom
Thor665 (1) - Rainbowdash

Not voting (0)

With twelve players alive, it takes seven votes to lynch.

Deadline for Day Four is Thursday, 27th March 20.00 GMT, (in (expired on 2014-03-27 20:00:00)).

Note:

Petroleumjelly will be V/LA from 3/27 - 3/30.

[petroleumjelly]

Vote staying, then. I would suggest that Bulbazak, HighShroomish, kabooooom, and Rainbowdash change their votes to help achieve a lynch.

[Sotty7]

My point is that I consider it a scumtell when somebody votes scum while actually pursuing a case on somebody else simultaneously. It is an easy way to distance while being open to (and advocating) alternate lynches.

This was actually the note I thought inHimshalllibe might have been making to himself. But then he never followed up on it. And apparently now Sotty7 gets "slack" because the vote was on scum. I also think it is possible inHimshallibe is partnered with Albert B. Rampage and so was purposefully trying to highlight for the future players who technically voted for Albert B. Rampage but could arguably be lynched for pursuing other players. I do not like his lack of follow-up, especially after I directly asked him about his post. At the very least I would like to know why the post was so notable.

In sum, I am actually convincing myself while thinking on this issue that I think at least one of Sotty7 and inHimshallibe are scum. The entire interaction between the two seems they are at a point where they are both overly polite / not trying to step on each others toes, but I have seen no reason for why this would be the case. (Not the best wording, hopefully the essence is coming out here).

Your point is extremely weak.

I voted for ABR and spoke about about bulb at that time because I was still trying to sort bulb in my mind and believed ABR to be more likely scum because of mostly meta reasons. I was happy to lynch ABR while I reviewed bulb (which I did). Now maybe I would think you were making good points if I just never went back to bulb or used any excuse to jump of the ABR wagon and he flipped scum. Since I did neither of these two things I really don't see why having two scum suspects at once is scummy.

Your whole push on me has been pretty scummy to me. For example, your pointless question in asking me to explain again when I voted ABR when I literally just did post before yours. If there was something you didn't believe or wanted more explanation on you should have asked, it's like you are trying to engage me in empty pointless discussion and it is grating on me this close to the deadline, even more so when you are going V/LA soon. Now you think I am scummy because I voted ABR and spoke about my bad feelings for bulb, who I am still voting and have been, pretty much since ABR's death. I feel you're reaching pretty hard.

It's bullshit so yeah, I am saying "get a load of this guy" because I'm just not seeing scum hunting here.

As for the inhim scum movement. I'm not sure what the case on him is. He lurks a little and posts minimally, but is there something he actually did that was scummy? I'd have to look back but I don't remember. I have a null to slight town read on him.

[Sotty7]

"People need to be willing to compromise"

"Stop trying to convince people to compromise your way - compromise my way instead"

Meh.

This could be applied to you too

[emeraldemon]

vote: bulbazak

L-1

[Thesp]

UNVOTE: Bulbazak
VOTE: Rainbowdash

More later.

[Thesp]

Sorry for the brevity of my last post - was stuck in traffic, saw the update, thought I'd post a vote switch in the hopes that we could lynch Rainbowdash today over Bulbazak, as is my preference. I should be around, however, to move my vote as needed to secure a lynch.

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As for the inhim scum movement. I'm not sure what the case on him is. He lurks a little and posts minimally, but is there something he actually did that was scummy?

Since when is this not scummy?

He lurks a little and posts minimally

I have little blips all over my notes that make me uncomfortable with him. I will note Post 1061 sticks out the most to me: Zdenek and Albert B. Rampage are bickering back and forth while ABR has a wagon, and inHimshallibe ignores it entirely to post about two other players.

[kabooooom]

Only 5 hours left, I guess I will hammer bulb.

[kabooooom]

vote: bulb

[kabooooom]

vote: bulb

[kabooooom]

Oh ok!! Rainbow is at l-1!!

[Thesp]

Only 5 hours left, I guess I will hammer bulb.

After your vote, I think Bulbazak is at 6, and Rainbowdash is at 4.

[kabooooom]

vote:rainbowgul

p-edit:- no, cos ED voted bulb and put him at L-1 and then someone unvote bulb making him L-2, so when I voteh him, it was l-1 again.

[kabooooom]

Oh ok. I see. Then u need to vote buddy.

unvote

vote:bulb

[Thesp]

Oh ok. I see. Then u need to vote buddy.

unvote

vote:bulb

If Rainbowdash was at L-1, would you be voting for her?

[Thor665]

That is so Smurfing dumb. Bulba is at 5 votes. Who else is? NO ONE. So if you wanted your way, you should have gotten votes earlier than 14 hours before deadline.

Spoken like someone who can't read wagon motion.

This could be applied to you too

Yeah, except I'm not daft enough to use it as an argument for why those who disagree with me should compromise.

Rainbow and Bulba still look to be in play at this point.
Except that over a third of the player list are being utterly useless with their votes.

[kabooooom]

Oh ok. I see. Then u need to vote buddy.

unvote

vote:bulb

If Rainbowdash was at L-1, would you be voting for her?

yup..

[Thor665]

Then why the pause when you thought she had more votes than Bulba?