You vote me when it seems, atleast to me, that you're really suspicious of Guardian, but of course I could be way off in my observation there, correct me if I'm wrong. I thought the whole point of the game was to lynch the mafia not lynch a random lurker. Oh and if you really want to put pressure on a lurker you're going to need more than one vote.Avinyl wrote:I have reread the thread, however, i can't see anything distinctly scummy.
DLMF: Only 6 posts excluding confirmation, sticks with his vote because of gut feeling. I don't think he's scum though.
Gor: He seems to be very skeptical about why people vote.kcat
Guardian: He seems to be a little to eager newbie, but i have a gut feeling that he is scum and is just trying to seem like a little to eager newbie. I am also suspicious of the "speedlynch Raffles" and the proposition of a random lynch.
Ichigo: 4 posts; Confirm, random vote, talking about the tigers on April 1.
John: Many posts, but no post is longer than a few sentences. I don't know what to think about him.
Mustafa15: Only a few short posts, however, he has posted that he would be away.
Occult: Doesn't want to vote definitively yet, however, he is suspicious of 3 persons.
Peter Venkman: Insists upon that we probably haven't any power roles. How can he be so sure?
Raffles: I can't make up my mind on him, either he's town or he is scum that seems protown.
Vel-Rahn Koon: He switched rather quickly from Guardian to Vryklan.
Vryklan: I no longer know what to think.
Unvote Vryklan,Vote Ichigofor reasons stated above.
Ichigo wrote:You vote me when it seems, atleast to me, that you're really suspicious of Guardian, but of course I could be way off in my observation there, correct me if I'm wrong. I thought the whole point of the game was to lynch the mafia not lynch a random lurker. Oh and if you really want to put pressure on a lurker you're going to need more than one vote.Avinyl wrote:I have reread the thread, however, i can't see anything distinctly scummy.
DLMF: Only 6 posts excluding confirmation, sticks with his vote because of gut feeling. I don't think he's scum though.
Gor: He seems to be very skeptical about why people vote.kcat
Guardian: He seems to be a little to eager newbie, but i have a gut feeling that he is scum and is just trying to seem like a little to eager newbie. I am also suspicious of the "speedlynch Raffles" and the proposition of a random lynch.
Ichigo: 4 posts; Confirm, random vote, talking about the tigers on April 1.
John: Many posts, but no post is longer than a few sentences. I don't know what to think about him.
Mustafa15: Only a few short posts, however, he has posted that he would be away.
Occult: Doesn't want to vote definitively yet, however, he is suspicious of 3 persons.
Peter Venkman: Insists upon that we probably haven't any power roles. How can he be so sure?
Raffles: I can't make up my mind on him, either he's town or he is scum that seems protown.
Vel-Rahn Koon: He switched rather quickly from Guardian to Vryklan.
Vryklan: I no longer know what to think.
Unvote Vryklan,Vote Ichigofor reasons stated above.
Avinyl wrote:Gor:kcat
Not at all- don't want people going back and changing stuff, now do you?Ichigo wrote:Hmmm no edit button that's very incovenient
Well it would be nice for misspelling, adding things to a post that you forget, etc.gorckat wrote:Not at all- don't want people going back and changing stuff, now do you?Ichigo wrote:Hmmm no edit button that's very incovenient
That's what EBWOP is- Edit By Way Of Post (if you ahdn't looked it up, yet).
I've skimmed a bit to try and get a feel for whom I think is scum, but I'm going to a baseball game later and don't really have too much time to blow at the moment
At the top of my list are the players with the fewest posts since they give us the least to go on, but I understand that some people just post less. As long as they come through when the chips are down, that's fine.
I'll post more tonight.
Yeah, this seemed fishy to me too - it's incredibly ironic that he had internet problems or whatever and had to lurk and then was extremely suspicious of Ichigo for lurking... and then switched it. I don't want to unvote Vryklan just yet, but I think Avinyl deserves this pressure as his actions have been quite sneaky.Vel-Rahn Koon wrote:What a weekend
@Vryk - thanks for posting a response to 107. The answer you gave was the one I was expecting (after all, applying what you would have done to someone else's actions and then pointing a finger for it is a good dose of craplogic), and I'm glad that you've given your reasons for keeping your vote where it is.
Unvote: Vryklan; Vote: Avinyl
Avinyl's vote switch in 180 seems off to me. He votes Ichigo in post 171 for "lurking", and then switches the vote 1/2 hour after Ichigo makesONEpost in response to the vote. For only having a "little suspicion" of Guardian you posted quite a bit about him in 171, yet you're gunning for lurkers and OMGUSing in the process? Seems like you're trying to point as many fingers as possible and sow confusion.
I don't see much to add since I've already addressed the accusations against me. Unless of course I've missed something, which if you point out what I've failed to address then I'll do so.Guardian wrote:I am conflicted about posting when some others post so little but I'm bored so heregoes...Yeah, this seemed fishy to me too - it's incredibly ironic that he had internet problems or whatever and had to lurk and then was extremely suspicious of Ichigo for lurking... and then switched it. I don't want to unvote Vryklan just yet, but I think Avinyl deserves this pressure as his actions have been quite sneaky.Vel-Rahn Koon wrote:What a weekend
@Vryk - thanks for posting a response to 107. The answer you gave was the one I was expecting (after all, applying what you would have done to someone else's actions and then pointing a finger for it is a good dose of craplogic), and I'm glad that you've given your reasons for keeping your vote where it is.
Unvote: Vryklan; Vote: Avinyl
Avinyl's vote switch in 180 seems off to me. He votes Ichigo in post 171 for "lurking", and then switches the vote 1/2 hour after Ichigo makesONEpost in response to the vote. For only having a "little suspicion" of Guardian you posted quite a bit about him in 171, yet you're gunning for lurkers and OMGUSing in the process? Seems like you're trying to point as many fingers as possible and sow confusion.
I read the newbie game gorckat mentioned, though, and both gorckat and avinyl's actions are consistent with being town... (avinyl lurking and gorckat NOT trusting people [he trusted people as mafia]) but in that game avinyl did not throw suspicion around randomly as he has here to an extent.. In that thread people listed their suspicions in a nifty column, I'm going to do it because it looked cool.
Most scummy
Vryklan- bad logic, lurking while accused, defended by Raffles too much.
Avinyl- throwing vote around, lurking, bad logic trying to just get people convicted, distancing from Vryklan and Ichigo (who I find suspicious) by voting and unvoting
Raffles- defends me then attacks me, defends Vryklan heavily because they are irl friends.. acts really really pro-town then says that for sure the pro-town scum tell is a fallacy...
--gap--
Ichigo- lurks a lot then comes back without adding much, bad vibe
mustafa15- lurkish, randomish votes, bad vibe
DLMF- lurkish
John- lots of short posts, not a lot of explanation
Occult- i have no real read on him yet, despite his many posts
--big gap--
Vel- lots of good logic, could be a well hiding scum but I think that his interest in getting right people is genuine... loses some points for association with VTech,
Gorckat- good vibe, his actions are consistently pro town, he is suspicious of everyone, his action is markedly different from when he was scum in the newbie game
Peter- pointed out stuff that would not make sense for a scum to point out..
Least scummy
And most recently a calling out of lurkers with a vote on Avi and then a confirm vote on Avi.I'm not seeing a good reason for Vryklan's 4 votes, would someone elaborate?
Also both have voted for Guardian. Notice a pattern? Now, this is going to sound absurd but what if Guardian is scum? (I know, crazy!) And that both voting for Guardian is another distancing tactic. Another Posting will spark discussion and give everyone a place to start from. If you're town, nothing you say should get you into trouble from which you can't extricate yourself, and if you're scum, posting more will help us catch youGuardian wrote:I am conflicted about posting when some others post so little but I'm bored so heregoes...
/agree - no point in sitting on it.gorckat wrote:@Guardian: I say call them out. Don't hold back because if you are Nightkilled, we lose those thoughts and if you're getting lynched, its gonna make it harder to sift out OMGUS type accusations.
If you catch a contradiction, then point it out so we can break the person down.
Sorry but I don't like this explanation. What was your reason for voting for John then? Why not just leave your vote on Ichigo? Why vote at all?Avinyl wrote:My reasoning for voting Ichigo
I was not very supicious of anyone, and so voted for the one who had participated the least. When he came back, i had no reason to vote him, so i voted John instead.