No, I'm just curious how one gets such a good feeling for me as town when Panzerjager is 120% sure I'm scum. Oh wait, I voted formustafa15 wrote:Town... I think...The Central Scrutinizer wrote:Good feeling as in TCS=town or TCS=scum?mustafa15 wrote: I'm getting a good feeling about TCS, but I don't quite know why. Call it a hunch, I guess.
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I unvoted because my vote on panzer was random. And at the time I had not considered all the players. Being close-minded = bad.
This game is driving me up the wall. John is annoying the heck out of me: Stop repeatedly explaining dumb things. There's a certain tolerance I have for newbies, but you're fast exceeding that. The only reason why I don't think you're scummy is because I can't see why scum would draw this much attention fairly early game.
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Well, I just don't think that the things TCS have done seem very likely for a mafioso to do, especially in a game where there are only two mafias, so I guess there is a lot of WIFOM going on which is why it is only a hunch. I just feel that of the people doing controversial things in this game, TCS's have explanations that I think are pretty viable.
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I don't see his explanation for putting my at -1 for abosolutely no reason. I don't see any logic behind anything he has done and am baffled why I am being lynched. I have a good hunch right about now though. So I'm going toUnvote: John, Vote: Mustafauntil he can tell me where these explanations are and
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I don't see any reason why you're over reacting to a minus 1 vote this bad Panzer. Especially since your vote isn't on him.
If there was a speed lynch, I'm pretty sure we would have nailed the person who hammered if you were town.
SV wrote:This game is driving me up the wall. John is annoying the heck out of me: Stop repeatedly explaining dumb things. There's a certain tolerance I have for newbies, but you're fast exceeding that. The only reason why I don't think you're scummy is because I can't see why scum would draw this much attention fairly early game.FoS:SV
It looks like he's paranoid newbie scum....
You even state that he is a newbie, and you have tolerance for him, and then you don't see why scum would draw that much attention early in the game?
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Errr, no. I wasn't linking you, I felt that was more an independent move than anything to do with john.Simenon wrote:Way to completely ignore the context.
You said "everybody I suspect seems to be defending John". Perhaps others have differing opinions on John. Just because you believe he's scum, which I don't, doesn't mean that I'm scum for defending him logically. Considering you ignored the reasons for why I think he's town, I'm going to assume you agree with their worth.
In that case, you're linking me with John only because I have a differing opinion. You are unsubstantiating me.
and it's not them "defending him" it's them all beinglinked/defending/something to do with him. Go back and read my post.
John is slightly scummy in his own right, and other players are individually also, but most of them all have something to do with John.
That's why my vote is on him instead of Panzer or SV especially.Untrod Tripod (7:27:18 PM): you enjoy whoring
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I see your point SV.
Keep in mid though that I was one of the only active people in this thread till recently. Having so little to go off of, I guess I kept defending myself, trying to get something productive done, but now I feel that we, mostly me, can move onto more concrete reasons and get somewhere.I'm not who you think I am. Unless you guess right. Then you know who I am.-
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Why I think John could be scummy: For spamming.
Why I think John could be not scummy: 1) He's a newbie. 2) I can't see which sane scum would do this, irregardless of whether said scum is a newbie or IC.
With that said though, John's latest post sounds like a classic case of the 'let's move on, let's move on...' syndrome, while repeating his old mistake.
Simenon: For all your previous 'verbosity': why?
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Panzer: at first I thought as you did, that mustafa was claiming TCS had provided good explanations for his actions, but actually what he says is this:
and if you connect the two bits I've bolded, it looks like he's saying "I can see why TCS might do that". Not "TCS has explained why he did that."mustafa15 wrote:Well, I just don't think that the things TCS have done seem very likely for a mafioso to do, especially in a game where there are only two mafias, so I guess there is a lot of WIFOM going on which is why it is only a hunch. I just feel that of the people doing controversial things in this game,TCS's have explanations that I think are pretty viable.
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Ripley, I don't see any viable reason for anything that he has done other then aviod answering questions. I also don't see anything that I have done that has been scummy. I can explain clearly and anything that I have done and that explanation will be far more "viable" then TCS's reasoning.Sometimes a sandwich is just a sandwich.-
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Is that really a difference?IH wrote:
and it's not them "defending him" it's them all beinglinked/defending/something to do with him. Go back and read my post.
If there isn't, well, my point stands.
If there is, well, more than half the thread has "something to do with john". Ripley has something to do with john- so much so that I'm voting him.
Ah, but then, what was the point of that statement? If it wasn't to unsubstantiate players who "have something to do with john", why did you say it at all?John is slightly scummy in his own right, and other players are individually also, but most of them all have something to do with John.-
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Implying? I'm saying you're scum! That's why my vote is on you!John wrote:So are you impling I am scum? Or that I am a scum magenet? I'm trying to figure out what your getting at.
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1.Yes there is a difference
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I think that TCS put you at lynch -1 because he suspected you to be scum, and wanted to see your reaction to being at lynch -1. The way that you responded reinforced his suspicions, and I agree with him.Panzerjager wrote:I don't see his explanation for putting my at -1 for abosolutely no reason. I don't see any logic behind anything he has done and am baffled why I am being lynched. I have a good hunch right about now though. So I'm going toUnvote: John, Vote: Mustafauntil he can tell me where these explanations are-
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Just cause panzer is annoyoing doesnt mean he's scum, we should at leasttryto fimd scum.
So IH, because panzer attacked me, and other people havbe attacked me, it makes me scum? It simply doesn't make sense to me. Or are you saying I've try to start conflicts, because the only one I may have started is with Panzer.
So the things Panzer does makes me scummy? Don't you think that's a little unfair?IH wrote:Almsot everything I've considered scummy in this game is linked to you. Like Panzer. Most everything he's done that I don't like has to do with you.I'm not who you think I am. Unless you guess right. Then you know who I am.-
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Over reaction. Clearly a random vote, it's stated so in post 11. Pretty sure that this was opportunistic scum.Panzer wrote:TCS, you are going to follow him all day? Are you aware that this is his first game? Beside any of this, do you realize the scumminess that is giving your vote to someone? You are essential forfeiting your opinion and giving could be scum an extra vote. I do realize you are probably joking but such a joke warrants an Unvote, Vote: TCS
More of an overreaction.Panzer wrote:I know he is joking and TCS knows I like being "aggressive." It's page 1, aka the race to page 2 where we can find something more meaningful. Then on to pages 3-5 where there is some bad arguement. Page 6 comes and we decide one of the participants in the arguement lost and scold him and wagon. That's pretty much a big part of day 1.
Yet even after these clearly scummy reactions of Panzer trying to explain things to much, John unvotes him and gets away from him.John wrote:what if i vote for you TCS just like the other game? lol
and screw you panzer, your jokes suck. if his jokes warrent an instant vote, yours warrant and instant lynch.
lol just playin man, you know it
Unvote: PanzerJager
and our commerical for gov. kicked ass btw. the goodfellas also had a good one unfourtunatly. nice of you to show. Ant says hi.
There was two from where you moved.John wrote:3 votes panzer. thats beat.
Brings up a point, yet throws it away. It's just there to make someone look suspicious, nothing else.John wrote:Isn't it a lil' late for random votes? Whatever, I don't care.
First a little bit of an over reaction, with an Omgus vote/case, and unsubstantiating him with accusing him of not being active.John wrote:Thats a junk reason. Almost as shitty as TCS's vote on Panzer.
Vote for me cause I post alot? Who cares? It's page 2, of course its all junk, what else do we have to go on? Noone has posted, including you. Why don't you become an active member of this thread and not sit around accusing me of "posting too much".
Unvote, Vote: Ripley
Though commented on being put at minus 1, and then moves his vote a few posts later.TCS wrote:Unvote, Vote:TCS for being the most incredibly scummy player I've ever seen and i agree that john's posting is ridiculous and the OMGUS vote was also stupid.
This was out of the blue. Nothing brought this up at all.John wrote:Me and Panzer know each other in real life, hence the friendly comments. We're not scum buddies. Should have cleared that up sooner.
Panzer, post 62 at 7:14 wrote:I would also like an Explanation from IH.
First off, the post times should speak for themselves. 14 minutes apart exactly. Second off, John is defending Panzer, but adding in "I don't care" to try and make it look like Panzer doesn't matter to him.John, Post 63 at 7:28 wrote:Well, since your here, do your explaining, and clear your name before your lynched. Or don't, I don't care either way.
IH, is an explanation too much to ask for?
He's also following the heck out of Panzer
1.The following for 4 posts was obviously a joke.Panzer wrote:He follows you for 4 post then makes a rubbish post then says is up for a panzer lynch. This makes no sense because it was page 2 and no arguement. How are you gonna just lynch someone with zero reason. I believe both him and IH are lynching me due to other games and it's very scummy. They are just lynching blindly in a situation where we could essentially die 3 days if we continue to mis lynch. He then Finger of Suspicions Bird for asking why. He also refuse to give reason and ignores my post. I see TCS as the best lynch.
2.Mine was clearly a random vote, and I didn't like your reaction at minus 1.
3.If anyone came along and hammered, I'm pretty sure we would have had a confirmed scum. It's like in a newbie game.
Yet about the same point, he said that Ripley had "the worst reason ever"John wrote:IH, you make a very good point about me, I did not mean to make spammy posts, I apoligize.
If anybody had asked, it wouldn't have been scummy. Explaining things for no reason seems scummy, especially if nobody is hinting at anything, because it seems like you're seeing things that are scummy, and thinking everyone else is seeing them. Town is not usually going to see as such, especially newbie town, because they're not concerned with looking innocent.John wrote:I mentioned me and panzer knew each other because the way the posts were going, it seemed as though me and panzer were scum buddies. This explains th random votes for each other, and the charades joke.
I'm pretty sure nobody had mentioned a previous game, and you were the one who brought it up.Panzer wrote:I'm sorry but when someone gets lynched for no reason it has a lot to do with out of game or other game reasons and bring emotions from other games is not scummy but it is not conducive to scum-catching, because it clouds your judgement.
Defense of John. This is stupid, and plain wrong. He wasn't attacking someone for posting differently. The last newbie I saw that spammed the thread with every other post was scum. He was essentially actively lurking.Simenon wrote:Possibly the scummiest thing in the thread.
Attacking people for posting differently is a scumtell. Are you encouraging a lynch because you think john "posts rubbish"? Sure he does, but so do many with his similar experience. If you don't find anything scummy within his posts, just ignore them!
Repeating Panzer again. Panzer is still the only one who brought up past games before John, and is just assuming.John wrote:Panzer is right about one thing, don't let previous games affect this one. It does not help us, especialy if he is town or a power role. It's unproductive. If you have proof (which you do), then go off that.
I know Panzer can be a prick, but read through the bullshit.
No. The only newbies I see who post spam when there's nothing new are scum/Twito. and Twito is not a newbie.Simenon wrote:Yeah, but I think it's pretty damn obvious he's not actively spamming. This whole case is a rather large attempt to take advantage of someone who doesn't really know how to play the game, and it's rather depressing.
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Simenon's only contribution this whole time seems to be about Ripley's comment on John.
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Panzer overreactes to everything in real life. he is just a big ball of oversensitivity.
I guess i am defending panzer, but since he's my friend, it my reaction.
You do bring up good points, most of which can be explained by my friendship ofPanzer, which i will try to take out of this game, I'll work on it.
Well, i can't say too much more than that. I just played this game bad. Basically, i'm not scum, I'm just an idiot.
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