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Post Post #1600 (ISO) » Sat Mar 15, 2014 4:20 am

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Really, Fate? You think it's 2-2-1-14 with a town DAY-AND-NIGHT vig?

Nope. I am never buying that.
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Post Post #1601 (ISO) » Sat Mar 15, 2014 4:22 am

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You know what, fuck it, fine, we'll do it this way.

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Post Post #1602 (ISO) » Sat Mar 15, 2014 4:23 am

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VOTE: YNGO


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Post Post #1603 (ISO) » Sat Mar 15, 2014 4:52 am

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In post 1590, Fate wrote:you were voting Axxle when this day started NOT gaylords with me and you ALSO think I'm scum so go sit in your paranoid useless corner UT sure
first of all I've said three times now that I want the fucking hammer on the gay aliens.

second of all I don't think you're scum, I said your behavior was worrying me. It's not anymore because you're acting like the Fate I know and love again.

third of all FUCKIN FINALLY
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Post Post #1604 (ISO) » Sat Mar 15, 2014 5:04 am

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In post 1600, ChannelDelibird wrote:Really, Fate? You think it's 2-2-1-14 with a town DAY-AND-NIGHT vig?

Nope. I am never buying that.
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Post Post #1605 (ISO) » Sat Mar 15, 2014 5:05 am

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I mean


THANK GOD YOUVE ALL OPENED YOUR EYES
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Post Post #1606 (ISO) » Sat Mar 15, 2014 5:05 am

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I mean


THANK GOD YOUVE ALL OPENED YOUR EYES
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Post Post #1607 (ISO) » Sat Mar 15, 2014 5:07 am

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Lynch Fate/UT when were dead. Thx
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Post Post #1608 (ISO) » Sat Mar 15, 2014 5:18 am

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such town enthusiasm happy scumday scum
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Post Post #1609 (ISO) » Sat Mar 15, 2014 5:35 am

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For the record, even if someone doesn't think our claim doesn't 100% make us town, Tammy is ACTUALLY confirmed town to anyone who's ever played her meta. You can pretty much blindly trust Faraday on this one. She's one of the easiest reads on this site as town. This is how she gets when people suspect her as town. We hydra'd together as scum before, and you can see it was nothing like this. There's a reason I did most of the posting in
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. Even when she gets genuinely mad at BBmolla-the-traitor!usurper, you can see the vitriol is nowhere
near
the same. Untrod Tripod, how didn't you pick up on this at
all
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(And yes, Faraday, some of my laziness WAS being a PR, but I think being a VT with someone who--in
theory
--makes us an innocent child would also have been enough to make me lazy.)

The only reason I'm not throwing my own tantrum is that I have confidence that people will see it, and also, Tammy is raging enough for both of us. Unlike her, I think there have to be at least 2-3 townies attacking us (are scum really THAT afraid of a one-shot quasi-investigation?). But I'm still EXTREMELY wary of Fate (despite some early townish-looking posts), because this is worse than his stance on Tierce in Scummies that made him obviously guilty when I was following along.

Dismissing it as "lol, Tammy is being annoying, so I'm lynching her" or "lol, Tammy is SO OVERDEFENSIVE and EMOTIONAL UNDER PRESSURE" is scrub-level play. Look beyond the surface, and it should be obvious we're innocent.

If you want, I'll tell Tammy not to post for twenty-four hours until she calms down, now. I don't blame her frustration, but it's irritating to have our slot's reads dismissed as crazy psycho people screaming at each other. Mollie is genuinely scummy this game!
In post 1477, Axxle wrote:Waffles, please stop doubting Ythan. That makes me want to vote you that much more and I really don't want to be that stupid. Why would he counter claim you as scum. Please let me know any possible scenario he'd do that.
I feel guilty for starting this whole mess with that post (when I mostly thought Ythan was town--I was just kind of paranoid and wanted a flavour claim from him), but...

Him counterclaiming us as scum makes literally AS MUCH SENSE AS OUR CLAIMING THE SHOT IN THE FIRST PLACE. AND HE'S FUCKING DOUBTING US. AND YOU'RE DOUBTING US. If you believe one is possible, you can also believe the other is. Or if one is impossible, etc.

Scum!Ythan theoretically might have figured counterclaiming would ruin our confirmed townie status, and also cover his ass by saying, "Oops, I guess there
were
two vigs!" when we flipped town--there actually would have been no downside. It's unlikely, and I'm still strongly leaning toward him being town (unlike Tammy, because I think Tammy is OMGUS-ing), because I still don't see a scum dayvig, and also, there's an element to our role that doesn't make it inconsistent with a day-and-night vig. However, paranoia/healthy sCepticism is pretty reasonable in our shoes.

For us to be scum, we set up a vig claim back on D1 and either claimed a vig shot that we knew an actual vig was responsible for (potentially prompting a bullet in the brain that night) or it's multiball and we wasted our factional kill on taking out a survivor...even though people will know for sure that it's multiball by D2 or D3.

Also, there's a FLIPPED SURVIVOR, only TWO DEATHS last night (one of which was the aforementioned survivor, which no second scumteam would ever shoot and two different vigs are claiming to have killed), town are red and scum are black (except for the green survivor)...so this is really, really, REALLY obviously not multiball. REALLY obviously not.

Also also, saying that someone is ballsy enough to do something as scum because they seem ballsy in this current game has...uh...an obvious flaw in it.

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Post Post #1610 (ISO) » Sat Mar 15, 2014 6:28 am

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In post 1609, Sir Waffles Wafflington wrote:Mollie is genuinely scummy this game!
Why? (As opposed to bad)
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Post Post #1611 (ISO) » Sat Mar 15, 2014 6:36 am

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because they don't want to waste a night kill on Mollie
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Post Post #1612 (ISO) » Sat Mar 15, 2014 6:40 am

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wanted a flavor claim?

You EXPLICITLY SAID "THATS A LIE" AND VOTED HIM

there was no inquiry

there was no curiosity

there

was

scum

fucking

caught
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Post Post #1613 (ISO) » Sat Mar 15, 2014 6:41 am

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In post 1609, Sir Waffles Wafflington wrote:(when I mostly thought Ythan was town--I was just kind of paranoid and wanted a flavour claim from him)
THIS IS SCUM REVISING HISTORY IN THEIR FAVOR

ITS

FUCKING CLEAR AS DAY FARADAY

I DONT GIVE A SHIT WHOS PLAYED WITH TAMMY AND META

SCUM IS FUCKING SCUM


MATTP WON THE LAST ONE SCREAMING HE WAS FUCKING TOWN

AND YOU FUCKS ATE IT UP

NOT

THIS

TIME
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Post Post #1614 (ISO) » Sat Mar 15, 2014 7:19 am

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fate you know it'd probably help you get someone lynched if you could get nuwen to vote anyone this game

as opposed to giving two lists of people who could be scum and then not making an actual stand on any of them
or actually elaborating on any of the 'behavioral reads' she vaguely mentioned on people

because i do think you can read nuwen decently well but if she hides all of her actual opinions behind unspecific lists it would probably make it a lot easier for her to hide what you would think to be a scummy opinion from you
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Post Post #1615 (ISO) » Sat Mar 15, 2014 7:24 am

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*cue At The End Of The Day lyrics ("Now come on ladies, settle down...)*

so I think this is the first game with Fate where he actually almost convinced me for a second. or maybe it's because I was trying to read this game when I first woke up. luckily Fate-mode engaged and it snapped me out of it.

also we're not lynching YNGO that's fucking dumb

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so

Nuwen first gives two scumreads off the AD wagon from yesterday (not 'scummy', she says
scum
; she's confident). then after people talk about things she does a complete 180 by saying (well, honestly, heavily implying) that AD's entire scumteam bussed him, in order to set up to go after Fate/UT/Gamma.

seem less like a random lynch now?

do you have a townread on Nuwen?

pedt: also listen to Gamma, he's been asking her to elaborate on her reads and she's pretty much refused (I think she's posted after he's asked but again, just woke up)
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Post Post #1616 (ISO) » Sat Mar 15, 2014 7:27 am

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^yes she has posted after i've asked her both a)why she's not voting anyone and b)to elaborate on ANY of her reads at all
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Post Post #1617 (ISO) » Sat Mar 15, 2014 7:29 am

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also i should have posted this and other stuff when AP asked for flavor suggestions for the game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__d2FMCtgi4
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Post Post #1618 (ISO) » Sat Mar 15, 2014 7:51 am

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UT I AM INVOKING MY RIGHTS AS VICEROY OF THE POSSE

Come vote for Nuwen until she at least she gets in here and shares a few reads on individual players because I think that it's possible she's town even though I think it's unlikely right now her hiding her opinions on all the individual players in the game is scummy as hell.
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Post Post #1619 (ISO) » Sat Mar 15, 2014 7:54 am

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wow CDB's vote on me is even worse than the others.

Every person on this wagon has still yet to actually give a reason for voting us so whatever, if the townies out of all of you want to go along with this shit, then you're just utter shit at this game for going on a wagon with no reasons.

If you have reasons, please, I'm all ears

And if you're scum then congrats you're doing what you should be doing and there are enough dumb fucking townies to muddy the waters
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Post Post #1620 (ISO) » Sat Mar 15, 2014 7:55 am

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In post 1608, Fate wrote:such town enthusiasm happy scumday scum
oh look, Fate pushing bad/terrible meta again that I've already explained to be wrong like ten times.
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Post Post #1621 (ISO) » Sat Mar 15, 2014 7:57 am

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hey Reck you know what's a better idea than whining at fate and friends

actually voting nuwen so she'll either get lynched or actually be forced to post something readable in this game
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Post Post #1622 (ISO) » Sat Mar 15, 2014 7:58 am

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fine.

VOTE: Nuwen

She's just gonna come in and find a way to compromise onto my wagon though
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Post Post #1623 (ISO) » Sat Mar 15, 2014 7:59 am

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yes but you're not as close to being lynched as she is yet.
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Post Post #1624 (ISO) » Sat Mar 15, 2014 8:01 am

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and really if she comes in after all this madness and ignores her previous shit with DEFINITELY A BUSSER ON THE WAGON and doesn't actually say shit about her previous reads to vote you she's gonna get real dead.

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