Micro 310: Shitty Joke Smalltown II (game over)

[absta101]

I realized that. I am left with whatever isn't picked. Probably gonna be vanilla.

Vanilla is better than mailman in this situation imo.

[N]

farside22Doublevoter
YileyEven-Night Cop
absta101Hammerer
MitillosDoctor
Micc1-Shot Bulletproof
PrivateITreestump
Brian Skies 1-Shot Global Roleblocker

Picking order:

Dritan
jklash12

Remaining roles:

Mailman
Vanilla

@Mod: Are scum players prohibited from using both a kill and their night action (if any), or can they do both?

Mafia may both kill and action on the same night.

[jklash12]

I will pick Mailman

[N]

Okay, I'm locking the thread while I sent out alignments.

TierShift replaces Dritan

YileyEven-Night Cop
absta101Hammerer
MitillosDoctor
Micc1-Shot Bulletproof
PrivateITreestump
Brian Skies 1-Shot Global Roleblocker
jklash12Mailman
TierShiftVanilla

[N]

Vote Count 1.00

Mitillos

(0)

Micc

(0)

absta101

(0)

farside22

(0)

PrivateI

(0)

Brian Skies 

(0)

TierShift

(0)

Yiley

(0)

jklash12

(0)

Not Voting

(9) Mitillos, Micc, absta101, farside22, PrivateI, Brian Skies, TierShift, Yiley, jklash12

With 10 votes in play, it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline is in

(expired on 2014-03-26 23:10:08)

V/LA:

farside22 on weekends

[Yiley]

Well guys here we go!
VOTE: tiershift

[Mitillos]

Vote: absta

Hammer bad!

[jklash12]

VOTE: Brian Skies

From your friendly neighborhood mailman

[Micc]

VOTE: farside22

Need to figure out the double voter asap

[absta101]

VOTE: Private
He wouldn't mind.

[TierShift]

Didn't I get the loveliest role.

[Micc]

Couple things to notice about the setup:

MyLo could potentially occur in Day 2 if Farside22 is scum.

We can coordinate actions to guarantee a successful cop investigation night 2 by using the global roleblock and the doctor.

[farside22]

I wish I could split my two votes. *sigh* the days of mafia dating game show.
Rvs fun times.
I won't be voting till it's serious since it's 2 votes.

@Tier: You have the best role.

Now that I know my alignment. I think the 1-shot RB should go off tonight. The reason is that (1) it stops the mafia from killing anyone and (2) the even night cop can't use his ability till night 2. The cop gets an investigation and the doc can protect the cop.

Thoughts?

EBWOP. Just got micc in here that cut me off with the same thought.

[Yiley]

I will go with this plan

[TierShift]

@Tier: You have the best role.

I know. I'll probably not be NK'd.

Umm, does the plan still work if not all powers are town? I guess yes, but if the cop is scum it's a pretty much worthless plan that doesn't make good use of the global roleblocker.

I think we should be very careful with voting, considering we have a lynch at L-1 cos hammerer and we have a doublevoter.

I don't think a day 2 MyLo is possible seeing how we would have 6 votes day 3 with max 3 of them being controlled by scum.

[absta101]

If we lynch town today we'll be left with seven people the next day (assuming night kill). Double vote on town the next day + another scum vote + my hammer. The next day, Double vote + my vote.

[absta101]

Actually, I think it'd be 5 to lynch day two so forget what I said.

[farside22]

@Tier: You have the best role.

I know. I'll probably not be NK'd.

Umm, does the plan still work if not all powers are town? I guess yes, but if the cop is scum it's a pretty much worthless plan that doesn't make good use of the global roleblocker.

I think we should be very careful with voting, considering we have a lynch at L-1 cos hammerer and we have a doublevoter.

I don't think a day 2 MyLo is possible seeing how we would have 6 votes day 3 with max 3 of them being controlled by scum.

So question the cop and get an opinion of him. The only other time I can see the 1-shot global being useful is....what 2 scum in a 9player set up typcially? Would be if their was a mislynch twice in a row.....I think.
I don't think that far ahead.

If we lynch town today we'll be left with seven people the next day (assuming night kill). Double vote on town the next day + another scum vote + my hammer. The next day, Double vote + my vote.

What??

[absta101]

Umm, does the plan still work if not all powers are town? I guess yes, but if the cop is scum it's a pretty much worthless plan that doesn't make good use of the global roleblocker.

If we don't roleblock tonight, will we ever get an investigation result?

[Mitillos]

It's like N's Narcissistic all over again...

See, there was a double-voter there and people got paranoid about him. Although in that one, the doublevoter claimed hated, as well (he was) and people worried that he might be lying about that.

Anyway, the MyLo problem will arise on D2 if 1) farside is scum, 2) absta is town, 3) both are still alive by then, we mislynched on D1. I'm assuming there will be no N1 kill, because of the RB. Anyway, at that point, there will be 8 players alive, i.e. 9 votes and mafia will control 4 of the votes. If one townperson votes another, mafia can both quickvote that person. That puts them at L-1 and absta hammers. Kill one person on N2, 7 players left, mafia controls 4 votes, votes together for a quick-lynch, kills one more person and wins.

Incidentally, if farside is mafia and absta is town, it takes two townies to give scum a mislynch today. Out of a total of 7. So... you know... be careful what you do.

As for the night action plan in post 37, naturally I'm in favour of it, because we may as well do it. Note that the plan won't work if any of the three night actions involved are by scum.
If Brian Skies is scum, he can simply kill me tonight, and then kill Yiley on N2.
If I am scum, I can kill Yiley on N2.
If Yiley is scum, it's all an exercise in futility anyway. Worse, he will know I'll be protecting him on N2, so he can kill whomever he likes.
If both scum are in the above set, things can only get worse.
To a townie outside this group, there is an 18 in 28 chance of at least one of us being scum. To any townies in {Brian Skies, me, Yiley}, there is a 13 in 28 chance.

[TierShift]

Hmm, day 2 can indeed be mylo, damn.

On another thought, the plan proposed is the best plan.

As for the night action plan in post 37, naturally I'm in favour of it, because we may as well do it. Note that the plan won't work if any of the three night actions involved are by scum.
If Brian Skies is scum, he can simply kill me tonight, and then kill Yiley on N2.
If I am scum, I can kill Yiley on N2.
If Yiley is scum, it's all an exercise in futility anyway.

This is incorrect. If brian doesn't use his roleblock, we PL him. If yiley turns up dead day 3, we PL you.
It only fails when yiley is scum.

[farside22]

Tier: what were you thinking would be the best use of the global rb?

[PrivateI]

VOTE: Absta

Because Treestumps have feelings too!

So, if I may ask, do we gain anything from a lynch on this first day? I'm weighing the options, and it almost looks better for us to see if Brian uses his ability, and just start "fresh" D2.

[Mitillos]

Eh, the problem is that we lose our only investigative and protective roles, in those situations. Sure, we get one of the two scum, but still.

[PrivateI]

Why do we lose investigative and protective roles? The doctor and Even-Night Cop are still in play?