Okay, on to the next two players in my list, which are spectrumvoid and Battle Mage (rep. Smashy [rep. Dead Rikimaru]).
Okay, starting off.
spectrumvoid, her Post 2 wrote:Playing on emotion is a scum-tell. Claiming when not under pressure is a scum-tell. Giving up is a scum-tell.
^ Quoting to check for consistently as I continue reading.
Right away, I get the fawning vibe from SV in her posts.
spectrumvoid, her Post 7 wrote:I believe PJ is protown. His frustration sounds genuine. One question though: did you know this was mountainous when you signed up? (I sympathise with you over points 3-4. *pats*)
SV, her Post 8 wrote:Wow. I really should start learning from PJ. In most games, after page 10 or so I usually make some big mistake. I finally went to read Kingmaker I, and I admire his analysis.
^ These comments will probably be continued as I read, but there are things to comment on besides this.
SV was one of the people who pushed for a fairly early LoE, something I don't particularly care for. This could just be a pet peeve talking, but it certainly doesn't make me think anybody is more likely to be town. Town should be able to glance at last posts, whereas I would argue scum are more likely to try to base their play off whatever the latest posts are, and less likely to actually read back in the game (since they aren't the ones who are actually having to search for scum).
SV, her Post 12 wrote:I asked for a LOE because I wanted to know who you thought were scummy. And also because I thought we might end up being deadlined like what Twomz said.
But then again, I've changed my mind because of what PJ said, that people who weren't on it evade suspicion. Also because I realised that I tend to overly focus on just a few people each game, which has led to horrible consequences in my other games, so I'm trying to change that.
^ Changing mind entirely because
I
didn't want a LoE. Sheesh.
A couple times SV uses my analysis as reasoning to keep her vote on Phoebus.
Note:
Actually (I might have mentioned this earlier), I just realized what SV's play reminds me of. If anybody has read Most Mountainousest Mafia (Mini Regular #319), her play reminds me an awful lot of Stikey-scum. She is continually defending me and/or using my reasoning, which has a tendency to make me think somebody is pro-town (though I have been actively trying to shuffle this weakness off) – something Stikey successfully did with me. She also constantly talks about how she will do rereads, but I see very little evidence of this actually occurring (much like Stikey – scum like to
say
they will reread soon so that they look like they have an excuse to not talk for a while, and then they start commenting on the latest posts without mentioning anything from early on).
And eh, Post 45 technically looks like she's done some rereading, so perhaps she's not as bad as Stikey when it comes to saying "I'll reread soon!" and then offering nothing concerning a reread. And this actually tells me I should check which
other
players have been doing this – this type of play usually slides right under my nose unless I make a note to myself to look for it. But I digress (goes back to reading...)
In her Post 45, I see:
1.) Subscription to the "Bird1111 was nutkicked" theory (which I myself agreed with)
2.) She compares the interactions between "Glork v Pooky" and "Glork v MBL". Of the two, she decides MBL comes off looking scummy, but that Glork pushed Pooky too much. Definitely note-worthy. And as I continue reading, I can't really tell SV's position on Pooky. Example:
SV, her Post 45 wrote:... I think Pooky was trying to deflect PJ's accusations and not responding to them properly. The shaming response is wrong because he was obviously attacking Twomz, his consistency response doesn't make sense because only he knows whether he's town or not, and it's true he was defeatist, bringing up 1 post does not show his overall attitude and tone. Pooky also did not adequetely respond to Glork (It's true he criticised PJ).
Noting this:
SV, her Post 45 wrote:Summary as of page 25 (+ my HW assignment):
I think mbl, pablito, bird, phoebus, pooky, glork is scummy (in no particular order). They are currently scummy individuals, I haven't picked out pairs yet.
I think Twomz is slightly scummy for disappearing once the spotlight is off him + the wagon issue.
I think Yos isn't scummy, based on the reasons people have brought up against him.
I have no clear read on PJ other than the RC issue, no read on Mert, CTD, SC and whoever else is lurking.
^ Not sure I particularly believe the "I have no clear read on PJ". Up until this point, she certainly makes it sound like she thinks I am town. Also, I guess she decides to lump Pooky in the 'scummy' category in the end.
Some more talk in Post 55, after talking about how she doesn't like metagaming. Only thing that hit me here was:
SV, her Post 55 wrote:I don't want either Yos or Pooky to get executed, but I don't have a better candidate to recommend.
Noted weak Pooky/Yos defense. Also, this next post strikes an inconsistent chord:
SV, her Post 60 wrote:As I promised, here are my reasons for voting Glork.
- already 'deciding' who he was going to lynch.
- choosing Yos without a reason. (Glork chose pooky with a reason.) I elaborated about this in post 1030. But as of post 1037, he still didn't provide a reason.
Earlier, I'm pretty sure SV said she had "lots of reasons" to vote for Glork. Neither of these even seem particularly strong.
SV, Post 61 wrote:I must admit that Glork executing Pooky yesterday brings him a little lower down my LOS, but I still find his behaviour regarding Yos scummy.
Noting continual push on Glork. Self-note to look at Yos-SV connection later if one comes up scum.
Ooh, just found a good nugget, but they're a bit large to quote. I suggest isolating SV's posts and looking at her Posts {61, 62, 63, and 65}. After not having talked about either LL or MoS very much in the game (in fact, she has been vaguely defending each of them up until this point), she quickly comes to a "possible scum-pairing: LL + MoS" [65]. In conjunction with her [62], if SV comes up scum, I will want to a good look at the following (in addition to Yos, aforementioned): {CTD, DR, and Lowell}, for being in the same groupings as MoS/LL, but not being mentioned as possible scum.
SV, her Post 68 wrote:MoS: Doesn't giving up = scum tell? I don't like this defeatist attitude.
Noting for consistency with early quoted post. This is followed by some direct responses to a few questions/accusations, and then lots of 1-liners, followed by more direct responses (basically rehashing things SV has already said, so I don't need to double-comment on those). Lots of these posts were made during the "Waiting for
Godot
Dead Rikimaru" Era, so not sure how much to read into them – I'm positive most players were bored out of their minds by that point in the game.
Noting her Post 130 about VitR for later, but nothing much to read into at the moment – I disagree with most of her assessment regardless, though this should already be clear from my posting.
Overall, I still think SV is scummy. She began the game way too subserviently towards the King (me), such that I didn't really notice this trend until the end of Day 1 when I decided to isolate everybody's posts. Also (though I haven't read her posts in context to check for this), it seems to be the case that SV only started thinking Glork was scummy
after
he started pushing on Pooky/Yos, though she started off with the same attitude towards Glork. Her suspicions seem fairly selective (see: MoS + LL pairing in the 60's posting as well as Pooky/Yos/Glork/MBL interactions section). In general, I just don't get a very good feeling from her posts, though there is little wrong with her posts when taken one at a time – the overall picture is what I'm looking at.
I would still like a spectrumvoid execution.
