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Post Post #200 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2014 1:12 am

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Post Post #201 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2014 2:40 am

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guys ask me questions
just the tIP
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Post Post #202 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2014 3:33 am

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In post 201, TheIrishPope wrote:guys ask me questions
What are you doing right now? (besides answering this)
What do you like about your town? (and where is that?)
What would you like for Christmas?
What do you see when you look in the mirror?
What do you see when you look in the window?
What's your personal quote?
Low-fat, non-fat or regular milk?
Pen or pencil?
Last-gen or first-gen game consoles?
Fashion, science, business or car magazines?
Where would you vacation (if you had enough money)?
Sarcastic or ironic?
Do you play pen-and-paper RPGs? If yes, which one?

What is your favorite word?
What is your least favorite word?
What turns you on?
What turns you off?
What sound do you love?
What sound do you hate?
What profession other than yours would you like to attempt?
What profession would you not like to participate in?
What's your favorite curse word?
If heaven exists what would you like to hear God say when you arrive at the Pearly Gates?

Favorite...
...music style?
...food style?
...color?
...instrument?
...ice-cream flavor?
...furniture piece?
...movie quote?
...book quote?
...famous person quote?
...video game?
...magazine?

Who are your 10 favorite players and 1 favorite moderator on MafiaScum?

Do you find yourself to be an athletic person? If so, what sport to you like to play?
Do you prefer hot or cold environments, and why?
Do you prefer to be first in line to perform a stressful task (such as a school presentation), be last in line, or somewhere in between?
Lets say that you have the choice of either performing in the circus or working from home every day. You make equal money regardless of what you choose. Which do you choose?





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Post Post #203 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2014 3:50 am

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game related questions
there's a reason I don't do gtkas
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Post Post #204 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2014 3:54 am

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Who are the remaining 3 scum and why?
Who do you think is town?
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Post Post #205 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2014 4:00 am

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seriously no one looks like scum
I know that the lowercase slot is town tho
just the tIP
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Post Post #206 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2014 5:56 am

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Ow. Prod.

I wasn't really planning on participating until the site was back to full swing but okay.

Lynch FuDuzn harder.

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Post Post #207 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2014 6:07 am

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VOTE: FuDu
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just the tIP
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Post Post #208 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2014 7:39 am

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In post 198, Pollie wrote:What makes you think he's blue godfather? I think if he is scum his play is most like a goon making him red not blue
bert's half-assed attack with no follow up in post 84 was distance-y and the stuff in the beginning about FuD being a scumtroll was kind of weird

what's with all the goon stuff?
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Post Post #209 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2014 9:35 am

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Hey guys. Pretty short read so expect me to do it pretty soon.
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Post Post #210 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2014 11:38 am

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I guess I'm gonna do this as page by page thoughts/questions. If nothing stands out on a page, I'll just skip it in my post.

Page 1:
Pollie/Fudu team is unlikely for the QT joke during confirmations. I can't see scum making that joke with their buddy. I can see scum making that joke with a non-buddy though. And I can see town making that joke. So it's not a tell aside from them not being likely scum together. Fudu's response, however, asking if it was red or blue, feels off for some reason. Like he's trying to hard to go along with the joke or something. I dunno. Can't really explain it, but it feels kind of off.

I know this is kind of weak, but considering the stage of the game, I'd have also wanted to know why Kaze confirmed and joke voted in two posts (a min apart). Almost feels like overthinking a joke vote or something. Not a huge deal, but it stands out in the early game.
^actually, he does the same kind of thing with his scumlist and then double posting to defend himself light heartedly against the fact that half the players haven't posted, which hasn't even been mentioned yet. Seems quick to cover his ass.

Weird to see a second associative (non?)tell on the same person this early, but Fudu/Kaz is unlikely as well because Fudu made an effort (even joking) to get Kaz's support for a vote. This isn't normal buddy interaction.

Page 2:
Fudu/Cabd unlikely. See Fudu/Pollie reasoning. I'm kinda town reading Cabd anyway.

Tuennelmates flipped scum I noticed. It's unlikely that they did anything to draw attention to their buddy considering that lynch would be auto-loss. Because of this, TiP is probably only scum if he's on the team that still has both alive. Note that I could see Tunnelmates BEING bussed, just not the other way around because they weren't GF.

Fudu's play after being called out for his stance on hydras is too reckless for him to be GF in my opinion.

On a note related to my last line, Pollie's Fudu vote looks weak/lazy for the players in that hydra.

Kaz seems too fake-confident in his Fudu pressure.

Page 3:
I'm now comfortable calling Fudu town and Kaz scum. Pollie's reaction to the vote has me thinking they are on the non-Tunnel scum team though.

Fudu, you said Pollie is town. Why?

Page 4:
Tunnel pushing the Fudu/Kaz scum team makes both players unlikely Tunnel buddies. Pollie too for the vote. Pollie's reacion has me thinking they are on the non-Tunnel scum team though. Maybe with Kaz?

Is Pollie trying to fake townslips? First, "forgetting" there are two teams by asking after Tunnel's vote "what happened to Fudu/KAt?", then with little reaction to an answer that there are two teams, mentioning working on fakeclaims in an open setup. Just doesn't seem genuine to me. What's funny though in hindsight, is that it made Tunnel slip saying they are vanilla only to quickly correct it and say vengeful. And then mentioning possible "targets" (TiP and Cabd get points towards not being Tunnel's buddy).

So, partially for my own reference, not likely Tunnel's buddy to this point:
TiP
Fudu
Kaz
Cabd
Pollie

I'm gonna hit submit now because my phone has a habit of losing posts before I post them and I wanna avoid losing too much if that happens. So consider this a "to be continued" (immediately).
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Post Post #211 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2014 12:03 pm

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In post 210, Egg wrote:^actually, he does the same kind of thing with his scumlist and then double posting to defend himself light heartedly against the fact that half the players haven't posted, which hasn't even been mentioned yet. Seems quick to cover his ass.
...are you serious?
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Post Post #212 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2014 12:05 pm

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In post 210, Egg wrote:Pollie/Fudu team is unlikely for the QT joke during confirmations. I can't see scum making that joke with their buddy. I can see scum making that joke with a non-buddy though. And I can see town making that joke.
I just RVS'd a scumpartner in my last completed game saying "I gotta bus for the towncreds."

You're making dangerous assumptions.
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Post Post #213 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2014 12:18 pm

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Kaz's point about pie being inactive, for 4 pages much less, is weak.

TiP's "hi" after not posting for the first 4 pages is weird. Like one of those things where you know he knew he'd be scrutinized. I kinda take it as a town tell for that reason, but I withdraw that if content doesn't follow shortly.

Holy shit I like pie. Post 105 made me cream.

TiP's hammer....what the fuck? See my reasoning on Fudu non-GF because reckless, except that it could still be a bus. HOWEVER, I have TiP as unlikely Tunnel-buddy. So he literally can't be two of the remaining three scum slots. But that move is seriously WTF and there is that other slot. You'd think this guy has acne on his genitalia or something.

Page 6:
Oh, wow. SSK didn't post on Day 1.

^pollie's over reaction to his first post feels fake.

Pie, how many times have you played with Kaz? How good are you at reading him?
^Kaz, after Pie answers, tell me if you agree with his answer.
<-Ignore this. Your answer is clear after more reading.

137 makes me think TiP didn't think through scum strategy which would be a town tell.

Kaz, how would scum "townslip"?

Are posts still missing? If so, it might throw me off a little...

Page 8:
Guys, Bert "fingering" people (giggity) isn't a connection at all even if he does normally bus. He flipped goon. Why would he bus his GF? That's auto-loss if successful.

Seriously, cabd is town.

Page 9:
TiP, what are your current reads?

202 was annoying as hell.

TiP, why are you townreading my slot? I think Lowercase had like two posts. What stood out about those posts to make you read him as town?

Kaz, yes I'm super cereal. I think you're scum. Big whoop, wanna fight about it? Fair on the RVS thing though. Pretty sure Fudu is town anyway so it's not really relevant anymore.

So anyway, my reads:
Red:
Pollie/Kaz

Blue:
SSK?

Town:
Everyone else

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Post Post #214 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2014 12:19 pm

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Just realized I asked Pie a question and he got replaced. Oops.
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Post Post #215 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2014 12:30 pm

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You do realize and were a joke, right? Right?

Pie is almost always active in RVS stage. It was a meta observation.

TIP's lolhammer honestly doesn't mean that much considering the source(another meta observation.)

SSK is probably tied with Nobody Special for lurkiest player on site so him not posting Day 1 isn't alignment indicative.

Scum could "townslip" because there are two scum factions in this game so some of the stuff that applies to town usually can apply to them too in this particular game. Like forgetting about the other scum faction.

Yeah, I think posts are still missing.

I'm going to dive your meta a bit later since I have no idea who you are and I can't remember how I felt about Lowercase.
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Post Post #216 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2014 12:32 pm

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In the meantime I suggest you stop voting townies.

Also, "Kaze" will suffice, if it pleases you. ^^
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Post Post #217 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2014 12:44 pm

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I took 20 and 21 as early reads, but I do see that you have non-posters in both categories so I guess a joke makes more sense.

Pie..could have been busy? Seemed like non-info to me.

I've never played with TiP, but considering Cabd's reaction, I can see that being his meta. However, it does open him up for some flak that a GF wouldn't want, so my stance on that stands.

I agree about SSK. Sticking him as blue is a PoE guess more than anything. I have too many town reads...

I disagree about townslips because it should be easy to tell the difference.

Any reason why you aren't being as abrasive about me voting you as you were with Fudu?
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Post Post #218 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2014 12:46 pm

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In post 217, Egg wrote:I've never played with TiP, but considering Cabd's reaction, I can see that being his meta. However, it does open him up for some flak that a GF wouldn't want, so my stance on that stands.
Tippy wins games based upon "too dumb to be scum" so don't fall into the trap of townreading him that early. That said, yolohammers such as the one he did are alignment neutral for him.
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Post Post #219 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2014 12:49 pm

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It's not 2dum4scum. It's the attention that comes from that move that makes him non-GF.

Do you think he is scum?
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Post Post #220 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2014 12:50 pm

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I don't; but it's not nearly as strong of a read as I'd like it to be.
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Post Post #221 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2014 12:53 pm

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In post 217, Egg wrote: Any reason why you aren't being as abrasive about me voting you as you were with Fudu?
Because you're not scum I'm trying to lynch atm.

To be fair I did have to abstain from mildly insulting your intelligence for taking my joke seriously. ;D
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Post Post #222 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2014 12:57 pm

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Cabd, fair.

Kaze, heh. At least I didn't think you were completely convinced of those reads or anything...
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Post Post #223 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2014 1:25 pm

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In post 207, TheIrishPope wrote:VOTE: FuDu
ok
Can we get a shred of reasoning behind anything you are doing? Just 2 posts before this you said you had no idea who is scum?

And, why not vote Kaze?
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Post Post #224 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2014 5:19 pm

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/ugh, egg, seriously? family guy references?

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