NY 169: The EPIC XD Mafia Game of Greatness (Game Over)

[Empire]

Day 6, Votecount 5

Titus (3)

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pieguyn, KoreanBBQ, Sakura Hana

F-16_Fighting_Falcon (1)

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Ser Arthur Dayne

Ser Arthur Dayne (1)

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Casso the King of Seals

Norlkaz (1)

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Prophylaxis

Not Voting (5)

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Ms Marangal, F-16_Fighting_Falcon, Norlkaz, goodmorning, Titus

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch! Deadline is on February 27th at 11:30 PM EST or in (expired on 2014-02-28 00:28:28).

Mod Notes

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Sakura Hana is V/LA until Tuesday. goodmorning is V/LA until Tuesday. Ms Marangal is V/LA until Monday.

Prodding Norlkaz.

[Prophylaxis]

PTAP, will post more soon.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

I don't get how you can read this game and still think I could be scum.

Because your playstyle has changed 180 degrees in the past few days and I'm attributing that partly to the stress of being scum in a losing battle.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

Your scumread on me makes zero sense. I don't get how you can read this game and still think I could be scum. I haven't played a game with you outside of a hydra and you seem to have changed your playstyle a lot since then. Why do you expect me to be one of the few people who can read you?

Because glimpses here and there in this game make is seem you can follow my chaotic playstyle.

Yeah, I can see that considering some of your posts early on like "you are the only reasonable person in this crazy town" or something like that which I can't be bothered to check but your accusations make no sense. You are as good as taking two separate positions I've held and acting as if it is some sort of contradiction and I have no idea why town-you would do that.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

I don't get how you can read this game and still think I could be scum.

Because your playstyle has changed 180 degrees in the past few days and I'm attributing that partly to the stress of being scum in a losing battle.

How has it changed?

[KoreanBBQ]

f-16, Sad...top 4 scum reads GO!!!

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

F-16 do you admit your playstyle has changed (even if slightly) in the past 2 days.

If we can both see that we can start from there and be on the same page.

Pedit: Ugh.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

f-16, Sad...top 4 scum reads GO!!!

Casso
F-16
Norlkaz
Titus

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

I don't get how you can read this game and still think I could be scum.

Because your playstyle has changed 180 degrees in the past few days and I'm attributing that partly to the stress of being scum in a losing battle.

How has it changed?

You've become much MUCH more waffle.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

I am thinking KBBQ, Sakura, Proph, and Norl are town. Those are my top four townreads. Eliminating them, Mara, and GM, we still have Pie, Casso, SAD, Titus. I think Pie could be town but I am not certain.

I pretty much want to lynch Titus because I can't for the life of me see Cephrir being town the more I think about it.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

I don't get how you can read this game and still think I could be scum.

Because your playstyle has changed 180 degrees in the past few days and I'm attributing that partly to the stress of being scum in a losing battle.

How has it changed?

You've become much MUCH more waffle.

Paranoia usually sets in late in the game.

[Titus]

Masons, I am sorry. I missed a page. The masons are almost certainly town. That is unless my paranoia keeps them alive, so maybe they aren't.

VOTE: F 16

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

Masons, I am sorry. I missed a page. The masons are almost certainly town. That is unless my paranoia keeps them alive, so maybe they aren't.

VOTE: F 16

This read seems to have come out of nowhere.

[Norlkaz]

It sure does. And Titus pulling reads from nowhere that followed who town wanted to lynch was something I saw a lot of in ASOIAF.

I missed hammering muffin by maybe 2 minutes.
Complaints that I should be more obvtown are fair but I am certainly getting there.

This is bad.

If I'm scum I did a really good job handling both muffin and SSK.
I don't get how SAD can look at my interactions there as a negative; if anything they're the clearest currently available reason I'm town.

This is bad.

Probably won't be hard to convince me to lynch Titus today though.

This is bad.

At this point you probably have sufficient information to rule me out as scum.

This is bad.

Any more bad posts in an attempt to look obvtown? Please get them out while you can so maybe you can go back to acting natural? Kthx.

They're all true, so far as I can tell. I could definitely have towned harder and with more fury but there's enough out there to get it right.

KBBQ's norl is scum because of a list posted days ago where he called me scum along with some people who were town and some people who were scum is pretty derp, but not in a scummy way.

I should probably do more research but I'm going to VOTE: Titus for the time being.

[pieguyn]

I don't follow the logic. Why wouldn't scum-Casso want to try to mislynch town-Sakura and then back off when she reacts emotionally? I mean, this is a game and scum need to mislynch townies to win. I see no reason why Nacho would let real life interfere with a game. He backed off because Sakura's emotional reaction pointed towards a town reaction so either he saw town there and backed off (if he is town) or he knew others wouldn't let the mislynch go through (if he is scum) and pretended to see town and backed off.

I am not seeing the logic that Casso can't be scum without Sakura also being scum.

yeah it's a game but there's such a thing as going too far. Sakura was having a shitton of RL problems and she was starting to not enjoy mafia anymore and she was considering quitting. Nacho and Sakura have played together a lot and respect each other, and I assume Nacho knew about all this. Nacho-scum wouldn't deliberately take advantage of all the problems Sakura was having as part of a scum agenda knowing Sakura would ragequit

C'mon bro Pie is so town it hurts

why did you go from waffling on me to "so town it hurts"?

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

Yeah, but if he doesn't take advantage of any mislynch he can, he would be playing against his wincon, wouldn't he? That would be a downer for everyone that invested their time into the game.

Who are you thinking is scum right now (besides Titus)?

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

Although thinking back on it, the way he tried to persuade me to vote Sakura felt incredibly town and reminded me of the way he addressed me in Zachgame (the last one where we were both town), so that's comforting.

[pieguyn]

Yeah, but if he doesn't take advantage of any mislynch he can, he would be playing against his wincon, wouldn't he? That would be a downer for everyone that invested their time into the game.

Who are you thinking is scum right now (besides Titus)?

there are times when, despite being forced to play towards your wincon, there are some things you just can't do. ex: in Mobile Suit Gundam SEED I was SK and it was like D3 or so and there was an entire debate over whether to leash or lynch me and I felt like just giving up bc no one was enjoying the game bc there were some people who were being really obnoxious in said debate and there was no way I'd win anyway

given how much Nacho and Sakura respect each other, I don't think Nacho would break their whole friendship just for the sake of getting a mislynch. it's too terrible and I have faith Nacho wouldn't do that. there were a bunch of other people Nacho could have tried to run up at the deadline and I'm sure if Nacho is scum and Sakura is town he would have picked someone else

[pieguyn]

also I'm not sure. I'm still thinking SAD but I keep looking at his interactions with zmuffin and Generic and second guessing myself. and if Titus flips scum it'll make me second guess myself even more.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

Okay, that makes more sense. I disagree but I can see it as a legit thought process.

[Titus]

The read didn't come from nowhere. I ranked my targets. Prophy would have pushed me as scum, so he probably isn't. Then, you Casso and Sakura are my next 3. I am not getting Casdo/Sakura, so that leaves you.

[Titus]

While we're talking about SEED, my scum games are marked by absolute chaos, while I can be Professor Titus. This is not a Titus scum game.

[KoreanBBQ]

oh btw ur claiming.

Claim and popcorn to someone else.

[KoreanBBQ]

Damnit GIF, give her time to make up a fake claim.

[KoreanBBQ]

Damnit GIF, give her time to make up a fake claim.