NY 168: (GAME OVER) The Mod is Dead, Fire and Ice Edition

Toomai · Post Post #1150 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2014 3:50 am

In post 1149, ElectricSavages wrote:
Zekrom25 replaces aptil.

Vote: Zekrom25

aptil was a scumread of mine. Zekrom25 is 100% grade-A prime-cut policy lynch material (haven't played him before but I've seen him in action in several games). 'nuff said.

Zekrom25 · Post Post #1151 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2014 6:07 am

In post 1150, Toomai wrote:
In post 1149, ElectricSavages wrote:
Zekrom25 replaces aptil.

Vote: Zekrom25

aptil was a scumread of mine. Zekrom25 is 100% grade-A prime-cut policy lynch material (haven't played him before but I've seen him in action in several games). 'nuff said.

Please explain How you came to that decision ?

Toomai · Post Post #1152 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2014 8:24 am

Discussing onging games is forbidden, so I'm not explaining it.

Zekrom25 · Post Post #1153 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2014 10:17 am

In post 1152, Toomai wrote:Discussing onging games is forbidden, so I'm not explaining it.

so you vote me just because of those games, explain why you are going for a policy lynch / utility lynch ?

PeregrineV · Post Post #1154 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2014 10:44 am

I saw someone explain Slandaar's defending of Desp, but I'll have to go read it before I consider it "protecting a scumbuddy".

Meanwhile, everyone's take on RachMarie would be appreciated.

Bulbazak · Post Post #1155 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2014 11:00 am

In post 1154, PeregrineV wrote: Meanwhile, everyone's take on RachMarie would be appreciated.

Could be fire scum. I'd rather just vote my stronger scumread.

RachMarie · Post Post #1156 (ISO) » Sat Feb 15, 2014 2:54 am

Two games I was in that recently ended

Newbie 1455 I was scum and the IC
http://forum.mafiascum.net/download/fil ... 357612.jpg

Open 541 I was part of a hydra with Malakittens and we were SiAm and we were town
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=36665

A few more games

Newbie 1452 I was the Town Cop
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=33595

Mini 1500 Narnia I was Peter a 1 shot cop
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=31611

Newbie 1368 (2nd run) I was the Mafia Role Cop
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=28586

That last one was a while back, but I do not get Mafia as much as I do Town.

RachMarie · Post Post #1157 (ISO) » Sat Feb 15, 2014 2:56 am

Zek replaced into a scum slot.

I think Pere is scum

I think most likely NJAC is also scum, but its not as strong a read as the other two.

Toomai · Post Post #1158 (ISO) » Sat Feb 15, 2014 4:53 am

In post 1157, RachMarie wrote:Zek replaced into a scum slot.

You should vote it then.

Zekrom25 · Post Post #1159 (ISO) » Sat Feb 15, 2014 5:47 am

In post 1158, Toomai wrote:
In post 1157, RachMarie wrote:Zek replaced into a scum slot.
You should vote it then.

2 Classic cases of WIFOM

T S O · Post Post #1160 (ISO) » Sat Feb 15, 2014 10:28 am

In post 1148, Slandaar wrote:
In post 1145, T S O wrote: You can literally see the answer to the question in the lower part of your post, so I think you know -why- I'm voting you.
Because you are unsure? I see no answer. You think its an Ice only kill therefore from your POV I am cleared of fire scum and should be near enough cleared of Ice, no?

Voteparking, you fool.

In post 1148, Slandaar wrote:
In post 1145, T S O wrote: You have fun with that, I guess.
Oh, I will! I want this meta you said you could produce.

Sure.

T S O · Post Post #1161 (ISO) » Sat Feb 15, 2014 10:30 am

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go

#738, I state I votepark a lot.

Slandaar · Post Post #1162 (ISO) » Sat Feb 15, 2014 11:23 am

Lets just lynch NJAC.

RachMarie · Post Post #1163 (ISO) » Sat Feb 15, 2014 10:11 pm

I have a stronger scum read on Pere and Zek, however because I do have a light scum read on NJAC, I would be willing to switch to him if we get close to deadline.

Slaan why are you so convinced that TSO is scum? I think the froo froo tween you and him is more likely TvT

Garmr · Post Post #1164 (ISO) » Sat Feb 15, 2014 10:34 pm

In post 1159, Zekrom25 wrote:
In post 1158, Toomai wrote:
In post 1157, RachMarie wrote:Zek replaced into a scum slot.
You should vote it then.
2 Classic cases of WIFOM

Can you explain you actually even explain what wifom means why it applies here?

Zekrom25 · Post Post #1165 (ISO) » Sun Feb 16, 2014 12:13 am

In post 1164, Garmr wrote:
In post 1159, Zekrom25 wrote:
In post 1158, Toomai wrote:
In post 1157, RachMarie wrote:Zek replaced into a scum slot.
You should vote it then.
2 Classic cases of WIFOM
Can you explain you actually even explain what wifom means why it applies here?

WIFOM / Wine In Front Of Me - WIFOM is the circular reasoning that results from trying to determine the choices of an opponent who acted with full knowledge that their behavior would be subject to scrutiny.

In Mafia, the ability to determine a person's motives for their actions is a core element of Day play.

However, a sufficiently self-aware player can make plays that look

unmistakably

Townish as scum

or unusually scummy as Town.

Thus, it is up to the observer to make a character judgment on whether the player really IS what they seem to be or faking it well.

RachMarie & Toomai following right after seems too much to be a coincidence and possibly more like an early WIFOM

Garmr · Post Post #1166 (ISO) » Sun Feb 16, 2014 12:21 am

In post 1165, Zekrom25 wrote:
In post 1164, Garmr wrote:
In post 1159, Zekrom25 wrote:
In post 1158, Toomai wrote:
In post 1157, RachMarie wrote:Zek replaced into a scum slot.
You should vote it then.
2 Classic cases of WIFOM
Can you explain you actually even explain what wifom means why it applies here?
WIFOM / Wine In Front Of Me - WIFOM is the circular reasoning that results from trying to determine the choices of an opponent who acted with full knowledge that their behavior would be subject to scrutiny.

In Mafia, the ability to determine a person's motives for their actions is a core element of Day play.
However, a sufficiently self-aware player can make plays that look
unmistakably
Townish as scum
or unusually scummy as Town.
Thus, it is up to the observer to make a character judgment on whether the player really IS what they seem to be or faking it well.

RachMarie & Toomai following right after seems too much to be a coincidence and possibly more like an early WIFOM

There's 2 hours difference between the two post and toomai is confirmed town basically how far have you actually read into the game?

You didn't really apply to how what they said is wifom either just gave me an explanation to what wifom is if you take away the fact the two posts are next to each other(which is a bad reason).

RachMarie · Post Post #1167 (ISO) » Sun Feb 16, 2014 1:12 am

Zek

Try again....

I was up late, I posted. I then went to bed. And had no contact with Toomai of any kind. Players here are from all over the world and have different time schedules so you will often find people posting close together. and as Garmr pointed out 2 hours is not exactly that close.

T S O · Post Post #1168 (ISO) » Sun Feb 16, 2014 1:15 am

Why are you wasting your time, Garmr?

Zekrom25 · Post Post #1169 (ISO) » Sun Feb 16, 2014 1:43 am

i was simply pointing out that it's early in day 3 when they posted that

Slandaar · Post Post #1170 (ISO) » Sun Feb 16, 2014 2:04 am

I have a question (please note it is my question despite the fact it is in a quote - I want the style points)

In post 1168, T S O wrote:Why are you wasting your time, Rach?

Zekrom: have you read the game? and can you post all of your reads please.

Zekrom25 · Post Post #1171 (ISO) » Sun Feb 16, 2014 2:08 am

also

In post 1028, RachMarie wrote:Actually I
have seen people claim VT as scum
, I have done it myself, not everyone comes up with some fake PR claim when they are scum.

&

In post 1061, RachMarie wrote:
I am just VT
give me a chance to make some reads before you hammer me

so you say you are a VT But you still posted those crumbs

Zekrom25 · Post Post #1172 (ISO) » Sun Feb 16, 2014 2:11 am

In post 1170, Slandaar wrote:I have a question (please note it is my question despite the fact it is in a quote - I want the style points)
In post 1168, T S O wrote:Why are you wasting your time, Rach?
Zekrom: have you read the game? and can you post all of your reads please.

i have reviewed day 1 & part of day 2

i'll post my reads when i finish reviewing day 2

RachMarie · Post Post #1173 (ISO) » Sun Feb 16, 2014 2:23 am

you are comparing a general statement with my claim

meh zek you have taken a scummy slot and made it more scummy

VOTE: Zek dude

Zekrom25 · Post Post #1174 (ISO) » Sun Feb 16, 2014 3:11 am

In post 1173, RachMarie wrote:you are comparing a general statement with my claim

meh zek you have taken a scummy slot and made it more scummy

VOTE: Zek dude

please re-evaluate your opinion