Mini 1543--Natirasha's On Parole!(Game Over)

[Katsuki]

No, I'm on my phone. I also don't care for his future long term meta and you're suggsting we lynch him to make a long term statement that his or her play is not ok

Hence the ??!!!!!

Yes and this is why site meta is shit right now

Also I'm suggesting to lynch him because he's being townread for adhering to his town meta, which apparently is to be an arrogant useless shitsack. I am not ok with this reason for town reading people

Well, no, that's not why I'm being read as town.

[Idiotking]

Wouldn't the fact that you know that's not your scum-meta completely invalidate that as an accurate tell on you?

[Idiotking]

Straight from the wiki:

""Self meta" or "personal meta" is the practice of referring to your own tendencies in game, usually for the purpose of trying to 'prove' yourself Town or disprove an argument that you are scum. Because the player is obviously aware of their own tells, however, and their true alignment is not yet known in that game, self meta is best viewed with at least a shaker of salt; they could be playing to avoid their own tells, after all."

So basically, no. That isn't a good enough defense for you, Katsuki.

[Selkies]

No, I'm on my phone. I also don't care for his future long term meta and you're suggsting we lynch him to make a long term statement that his or her play is not ok

Hence the ??!!!!!

Yes and this is why site meta is shit right now

Also I'm suggesting to lynch him because he's being townread for adhering to his town meta, which apparently is to be an arrogant useless shitsack. I am not ok with this reason for town reading people

This is going to sound sarcastic, but it's not, I'm sorry. I'm sorry that my lurking makes you think I'm an arrogant useless shitsack. That type of anger really shouldn't be in a game. We should be playing to have fun. I'll try and be more active if that would help, I guess.
Sorry.

That wasn't even referring to you but ok

[Idiotking]

Actually,

Unvote

Vote Aronis

Because we really, really need to talk, Aronis.

[Katsuki]

Wouldn't the fact that you know that's not your scum-meta completely invalidate that as an accurate tell on you?

It does not. It comes down to mafia theory, but as notscience has noted, there is not a shred of scum motivation behind my play this game.

[Idiotking]

Unless you thought you could get away with it.

It's sad because I'm never gonna get lynched this game anyways.

[Katsuki]

Oh you picked up on that.

I'll address that post-game, remind me~

[Idiotking]

Since lynchproof isn't normal, I can't imagine a reason that won't be cocky as hell.

Regardless, the very simple scum motivation for your playstyle is this: if site meta says lurkers are anti-town and not scum, and anti-town players do not deserve to be killed (because if that's the case then the town isn't scumhunting), then it is an altogether reasonable conclusion that scum should lurk; the more blatant the better. Really, I'd be giddy if you were doing this right now to prove a point.

It's like Cabd (I think) said on D1. With the current meta, some people could just lurk to victory.
But I guess you wouldn't have read that.

[Aronis]

Actually,

Unvote

Vote Aronis

Because we really, really need to talk, Aronis.

If you are seriously that concerned about that, you're a damned fool.

[Idiotking]

Well that's rude. I'm going to have my dog poop on your lawn.

[Aronis]

Well that's rude. I'm going to have my dog poop on your lawn.

Don't take it personally, It's just how I play the game.

[Natirasha]

Vote Count 2.16

MafiaSSK(4):

Nachomamma8, Bert, The Goodfather, Aronis

Cabd(0):

Selkies(1):

MafiaSSK

zMuffinMan(0):

notscience(0):

The Goodfather(2):

Selkies, Katsuki

Nachomamma8(0):

Bert(0):

Aronis(1):

Idiotking

Idiotking(0):

Katsuki(0):

No Lynch(0):

Not Voting(3):

zMuffinMan, notscience, Cabd

With eleven alive, it takes six to lynch.

Deadline:

(expired on 2014-02-19 21:00:00)

[Natirasha]

Pausing this momentarily.

[Natirasha]

All-Clear!

[Cabd]

...Well then, moving on.


I'm gonna finally drag my ass up and effort, but I am totally willing to use my vig shot as a policy lynch on kats. He's not helping, no matter how much he bitches and moans. SSK will sort himself given the claim.

[Katsuki]

Since lynchproof isn't normal, I can't imagine a reason that won't be cocky as hell.

Regardless, the very simple scum motivation for your playstyle is this: if site meta says lurkers are anti-town and not scum, and anti-town players do not deserve to be killed (because if that's the case then the town isn't scumhunting), then it is an altogether reasonable conclusion that scum should lurk; the more blatant the better. Really, I'd be giddy if you were doing this right now to prove a point.

It's like Cabd (I think) said on D1. With the current meta, some people could just lurk to victory.
But I guess you wouldn't have read that.

See, this is why I don't like to argue with you.

Playstyle and motivation are two separate entities entirely.

The current site meta is :stupid:. I won't lie that it's really easy to win as scum in this meta (my scum WR 4-0 since I started playing again).

Anyways I'm done with this we can spam the thread up with our theory debates post-game, it's a waste of space here.

[Katsuki]

...Well then, moving on.


I'm gonna finally drag my ass up and effort, but I am totally willing to use my vig shot as a policy lynch on kats. He's not helping, no matter how much he bitches and moans. SSK will sort himself given the claim.

If you're policy vigging me I'm replacing out right now because my effort will be wasted.

[Cabd]

I'm very heavily debating it, so either talk or run, kats.

[Bert]

If you're policy vigging me I'm replacing out right now because my effort will be wasted.

[Natirasha]

Two last bulletins for tonight.

-Please tone down the personal attacks.
-

Do not bring outside influences into the game - this includes threats, bribes, wagers, promises, "trust tells", alliances, etc. Using knowledge from previous games is perfectly acceptable, but try not to carry grudges from one game to another.

I trust there will be no more issues with either of these.

[Bert]

I don't really see real effort, Katsuki. You're acting like people are lynching you because of everything you do, and that's so not true. Plus you've been saying you'll get to the game eventually, and then you are here but you don't get to the actual game and catching up.

To start with I would like reasons as to why you think Goodfather, Selkies and whomever are scum. And please stop mentioning that you won a scummy for whatever, because this is a new slate and a new game and your past doesn't qualify you for special treatment in this game. cos every time someone asks you something, you have a stalling answer that puts yourself in a bad light

if there's anything scummy about your play today, it's the tone/attitude you have when being pressed for information.

[Katsuki]

I'm very heavily debating it, so either talk or run, kats.

There's nothing to discuss. There are not enough flips to convince ppl of my reads, and my scumreads have been very very clear.

This playerbase has a strongly differing style to how I play so.

[Katsuki]

I don't really see real effort, Katsuki. You're acting like people are lynching you because of everything you do, and that's so not true. Plus you've been saying you'll get to the game eventually, and then you are here but you don't get to the actual game and catching up.

To start with I would like reasons as to why you think Goodfather, Selkies and whomever are scum. And please stop mentioning that you won a scummy for whatever, because this is a new slate and a new game and your past doesn't qualify you for special treatment in this game. cos every time someone asks you something, you have a stalling answer that puts yourself in a bad light

if there's anything scummy about your play today, it's the tone/attitude you have when being pressed for information.

Yeah I'm reacting too much. It probably would be better for me to just replace out at this point. I hate replacing out for no reason though, but clearly this is not the game for me.

Request replacement

[MafiaSSK]

Katsuki, stay! It's okay, it'll be fine. Please?