NY 168: (GAME OVER) The Mod is Dead, Fire and Ice Edition

[Slandaar]

To have a scumdoc on one side, you'd need something of reasonably equivalent power on the other side. As firescum he would know that they don't have that equivalence.

Or he would know they

do

have that equivalence. Which to me makes a lot more sense in regards to his push on you.

I very much dislike how you have just discounted that possibility for no apparent reason.

[Slandaar]

Exactly what I said If you can avoid not looking like fire scum you are less likely to get lynched because as you said It is less likely you are ice scum with the attack between you and aptil.

What attack between Aptil and I? How does it make me less likely to be ice scum?

I don't see your point, I made a case based on completely sound reasoning, you are telling me I made that case to not look like firescum, why am I not just town who made a case on someone I think is firescum?

[Slandaar]

mastin2 was turned into a Kebab,

@Mod: Please can you reword this as I am finding it incredibly ambiguous

[Garmr]

Exactly what I said If you can avoid not looking like fire scum you are less likely to get lynched because as you said It is less likely you are ice scum with the attack between you and aptil.

What attack between Aptil and I? How does it make me less likely to be ice scum?

I don't see your point, I made a case based on completely sound reasoning, you are telling me I made that case to not look like firescum, why am I not just town who made a case on someone I think is firescum?

This

From seeing no posts as scummy to still think as scummy . Please explain .

Hi Aptil; hes scum, vote him.

You go on a attack here tell aptil he is scum then you go back to town reading him as if nothing had happened. I don't understand why you would do this. Just after that post you start talking about the fire scum stuff I'm thinking there's a connection.

[Slandaar]

I am not calling Aptil scum there.

[Garmr]

I am not calling Aptil scum there.

.... Sorry I misread that.

[Toomai]

To have a scumdoc on one side, you'd need something of reasonably equivalent power on the other side. As firescum he would know that they don't have that equivalence.

Or he would know they

do

have that equivalence. Which to me makes a lot more sense in regards to his push on you.

I very much dislike how you have just discounted that possibility for no apparent reason.

I don't want to get into much setup discussion at this point, but I just don't think that town is balanced with two teams of 2 goons and a doctor/equivalent.

[ElectricSavages]

mastin2 was turned into a Kebab,

@Mod: Please can you reword this as I am finding it incredibly ambiguous

This has been editted. ~JS

[Garmr]

mastin2 was turned into a Kebab,

@Mod: Please can you reword this as I am finding it incredibly ambiguous

This has been editted. ~JS

I just cracked up laughing. Is that recipe real.

Of course, just don't use real mastin.

[Slandaar]

I don't want to get into much setup discussion at this point, but I just don't think that town is balanced with two teams of 2 goons and a doctor/equivalent.

No way to know unless you know the full setup which you don't.

[Slandaar]

Well lets continue this then;

Nope it's similar between you and desp because of the way it written it was like he was forcing a town read on you which would be dangerous to do as scum in a multi scum game unless they are on your team. Desp is also forced because I don't really see him as a big contributor to the yuni wagon.

I am, was and have been for the longest time obviously town, why is his read not genuine?

if you just pretend coaching does exist in your world of theory why wouldn't this be the case?

There is no way to differentiate between coaching and general interactions so even though it may happen it doesn't exist in terms of scumhunting.

You left room to change your read and that what my main point was still I consider you been a bit wifomy on him.

I can change my reads when I like on who I like I don't care for 'room' my read is my read.

Doesn't matter you were waffling on him and then popped the hard defense out I don't like that.

There isn't any waffle my stance is very clear.

[Bulbazak]

mastin2 was turned into a Kebab,

@Mod: Please can you reword this as I am finding it incredibly ambiguous

How is it ambiguous? I felt it clearly pointed to a fire scum kill.

Vote NJAC

The only way TSO should be lynched is if he's on the next scum lynch and is still around the next day.

[Garmr]

Well lets continue this then;

Nope it's similar between you and desp because of the way it written it was like he was forcing a town read on you which would be dangerous to do as scum in a multi scum game unless they are on your team. Desp is also forced because I don't really see him as a big contributor to the yuni wagon.

I am, was and have been for the longest time obviously town, why is his read not genuine?

I saw you as town before but recent events have changed it so I guess your half right on this you did appear townish but the theroy I'm presenting is you are his scum partner and he wouldn't hesistate to put you down as town if you appeared townish

if you just pretend coaching does exist in your world of theory why wouldn't this be the case?

There is no way to differentiate between coaching and general interactions so even though it may happen it doesn't exist in terms of scumhunting.

Different in theories I can't really argue the point here with out this turning this into a giant wall I will drop this one.

You left room to change your read and that what my main point was still I consider you been a bit wifomy on him.

I can change my reads when I like on who I like I don't care for 'room' my read is my read.

This still applies

Doesn't matter you were waffling on him and then popped the hard defense out I don't like that.

There isn't any waffle my stance is very clear.

Your stance was maybe town maybe scum through most of the days and switch around the end was peculiar to me.

Put my answers in purple

and this question will link to the last anwser

What made you think desp was town enough for you to defend him?

[T S O]

mastin2 was turned into a Kebab,

@Mod: Please can you reword this as I am finding it incredibly ambiguous

How is it ambiguous? I felt it clearly pointed to a fire scum kill.

Vote NJAC

The only way TSO should be lynched is if he's on the next scum lynch and is still around the next day.

We may need to talk about that, Bulba.

[Garmr]

mastin2 was turned into a Kebab,

@Mod: Please can you reword this as I am finding it incredibly ambiguous

How is it ambiguous? I felt it clearly pointed to a fire scum kill.

Vote NJAC

The only way TSO should be lynched is if he's on the next scum lynch and is still around the next day.

We may need to talk about that, Bulba.

Tso I left a post for you

[T S O]

"The main fact is you called desp possible scum and him on his scum to lynch lists 4 times and never voted him once and when tso had his chance to vote either rach marie or desp he did neither. This suggest to me he was hesitant about doing either action which is weird because he was scum reading them both."

This is me voteparking, which is a characteristic of my play. I can draw up multiple instances of meta in this.

As for me and EPM: the interaction is me trying to get him to be quiet. I was actually trying to manipulate Fire in that post.

You're trying too hard, but you're Town as fuck.

[Slandaar]

I think JS's kill flavour is incredibly ambiguous. I myself think it's Ice alone, but I could see how Ice Burn is Fire & Ice.

Why then are you voting me?

TSO I think you forgot to answer my very important question.

[Slandaar]

This is me voteparking, which is a characteristic of my play. I can draw up multiple instances of meta in this.

Vote parking no-one? lets see this meta then.

The best case for firescum was made by PV on Rach although my case is very solid also.

TSO/NJAC Ice, Rach Fire.

[Bulbazak]

Slandaar, vote NJAC with me?

[Toomai]

Bulbazak, what's up with your NJAC read? I see you having him as low on the town list Day 3, null Day 4, and now apparently scum Day 5. Is it just his noncontributions or something else?

[T S O]

I think JS's kill flavour is incredibly ambiguous. I myself think it's Ice alone, but I could see how Ice Burn is Fire & Ice.

Why then are you voting me?

TSO I think you forgot to answer my very important question.

You can literally see the answer to the question in the lower part of your post, so I think you know -why- I'm voting you.

Unvote

This is me voteparking, which is a characteristic of my play. I can draw up multiple instances of meta in this.

Vote parking no-one? lets see this meta then.

The best case for firescum was made by PV on Rach although my case is very solid also.

TSO/NJAC Ice, Rach Fire.

You have fun with that, I guess.

[T S O]

Looked at Desp's wagon. If someone was bussing, it was Rach.

But it seems odd that he naked voted Rach in retaliation.

Ugh.

[Bulbazak]

Bulbazak, what's up with your NJAC read? I see you having him as low on the town list Day 3, null Day 4, and now apparently scum Day 5. Is it just his noncontributions or something else?

I remember that he gave me a scum vibe when he first replaced in, but I then put him as town based on his reaction to Mastin and that he echoed a lot of my thoughts in relation to Mastin. After Mastin was NK'd, I began to reexamine my read of NJAC. He went back to being a strong scum read during the night phase when I went through his ISO and found it lacking.

[Slandaar]

You can literally see the answer to the question in the lower part of your post, so I think you know -why- I'm voting you.

Because you are unsure? I see no answer. You think its an Ice only kill therefore from your POV I am cleared of fire scum and should be near enough cleared of Ice, no?

You have fun with that, I guess.

Oh, I will! I want this meta you said you could produce.

Looked at Desp's wagon. If someone was bussing, it was Rach.

But it seems odd that he naked voted Rach in retaliation.

Ugh.

Nothing odd about it, he voted the only other viable wagon, more questions are asked if the two don't vote each other than if they do.

Slandaar, vote NJAC with me?

VOTE: NJAC

[ElectricSavages]

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NJAC [2]

- Bulbazak, Slandaar

Slandaar [1]

- Garmr

PeregrineV [1]

- RachMarie

Not Voting [3]

- NJAC, Zekrom25, RachMarie, Toomai, PeregrineV, T S O

With 10 alive, it takes

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votes to lynch.

Deadline falls on 7^th Febuary 2014 (expired on 2014-02-07 21:00:00)

Zekrom25 replaces aptil. Also I'm going to busy til Tuesday, City should be able take care of things til I'm back

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