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Post Post #525 (ISO) » Mon Apr 02, 2007 11:05 am

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For reference, here is Yellowbounder's response to DoS's townie claim:
yellowbounder wrote:I'm posting.
Worship me.

Glork wrote:
Frozen Atlantic wrote:Seriously, town.
Stop letting this dude think for you.
It's embarrassing.
Why is Glork quoting this? Is he putting it in context? :shock:
DragonsofSummer wrote:*Sigh* well at least you have a power role to claim... being a normal townie sucks in these situations.
DragonsofSummer wrote:
pete d wrote:a flavor might help?
I didn't really even have one. It just said that I was a scared customer.
Vanilla townie is a bad thing to claim you could argue, since it rarely saves you from lynch, and if you survive the wagon, then arugeably scum will not pick you for a random night kill, in order to increase the likelyhood of hitting a power role.

Scum also tend to claim townie, since there is no legitimate counterclaim, (unless the game is open, the number of vanillas are known, and that number have already claimed, or something like that), but that doesn't automatically make DoS scum, it just raises an eyebrow on my part.

Let's look, like Amb has done for himself, at what happens if we lynch DoS.

If DoS is town (assuming he is telling the truth, since if he is town, why would he lie?*), then we shouldn't lynch him,since we kill a townie, decreasing the town, and increasing the chance of a power role being hit by a random nightkill. **

Although I am suspisious of anyone making a townie claim, for my above mentioned reasons, DoS seems fairly protown ish to me.

If some one disagrees, then my all means quote the suspicious posts
in context
. Nothing sucks more than your posts being taken out of context.

* If he had some sort of you-claim-you-lose power role, or some sort of thing, like a cop who doesn't want to be nightkilled, then possibly he could be lying. But I'm discounting this.

** Amb may have claimed, so if he isn't scum, doctors are generally targeted. Or he could be purposefully not targetted by scum, which causes us to lynch him since the scum didn't kill him. ***


*** Yes, this is WIFOM. That's why I didn't mention it directly.
Now, I see nothing about refuting the flavor, style, or description of DoS's false townie claim. YB
does
talk about how Townie is "a bad thing to claim" for a mafiate -- while this may have been true Day One, it seems as though much of our power is out... so Townie becomes a much more necessary claim.

It seems to me that based on StallingChamp's response, all of the townies have some similar/identical flavor or characteristics, which DoS failed to acknowledge. It also seems as though the discrepancy SC found between his own role and DoS's claim should be pretty obvious. That begs the question: Why didn't YB mention the flavor at all? He says that he's suspicious of DoS for claiming to be a Townie, but not for the way in which he described his Townie role.

This leads me to believe that YB is probably lying... but I'll let somebody with a bit more knowledge/experience (such as SC himself, perhaps) weigh in on that subject.
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Post Post #526 (ISO) » Mon Apr 02, 2007 12:50 pm

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Yellowbounder, can you elaborate on your vanilla claim (e.g. role name, flavor, win condition?)
The end justifies the means.
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Post Post #527 (ISO) » Mon Apr 02, 2007 1:02 pm

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I'm here. I need to ask CDB something, but I will post as soon as I get a reply from CDB.
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Post Post #528 (ISO) » Mon Apr 02, 2007 1:49 pm

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Yes, YB. Your next post contains some paraphrasing of flavor or I'm hammering.
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Post Post #529 (ISO) » Mon Apr 02, 2007 1:58 pm

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I will ask that no one hammers until I have posted something (not saying what just yet) after having talked to CDB. I would also prefer that YB waited, but that's a minor detail to me, so I don't really care.
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Post Post #530 (ISO) » Mon Apr 02, 2007 2:12 pm

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Hey! I'm back for quick re-read, and I'll try to post once SATs are over tomorrow. Just making sure to say Hi so you all know that I am back and am not lurking, and am not inactive.
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Post Post #531 (ISO) » Mon Apr 02, 2007 7:21 pm

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for a vanilla, YB's interactions with DoS do look suspicious.
unvote
I'm sure there's no shortage of people lining up to hammer, but I'm still interested in what Stalling has to say.
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Post Post #532 (ISO) » Mon Apr 02, 2007 7:22 pm

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for a vanilla, YB's interactions with DoS do look suspicious.
unvote
I'm sure there's no shortage of people lining up to hammer, but I'm still interested in what Stalling has to say.
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Post Post #533 (ISO) » Mon Apr 02, 2007 9:57 pm

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now a ranger wrote:Hey! I'm back for quick re-read, and I'll try to post once SATs are over tomorrow. Just making sure to say Hi so you all know that I am back and am not lurking, and am not inactive.
You're being replaced because of your kardkraizee/cokebottle antics. No posting for you.
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Post Post #534 (ISO) » Mon Apr 02, 2007 10:17 pm

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Okay, a few questions for yellowbounder:

1 - How are you feeling right now (according to your PM)?
2 - What did you want a McDonalds?
3 - What did you do about the threat?

Answer these in your next post.
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Post Post #535 (ISO) » Mon Apr 02, 2007 10:58 pm

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whoops sorry about that double post. man, will this freaking day ever end... well, I guess it shouldn't be that long now
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Post Post #536 (ISO) » Tue Apr 03, 2007 12:44 am

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Yes, I will know after YB's next post.
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Post Post #537 (ISO) » Tue Apr 03, 2007 12:47 am

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Glork: In order to discuss the wording of the townie PM, I would have need to claim townie. There was no pressure of lynch, and showing your hand too soon is bad. I mean, the scum then know (assuming you're not lying) that you're not a powerrole, and so forth.

Flavour of townie PM? Well, it goes along the lines of the fact, that I'm unnerved by the whole thing. Despite only coming in for a Big Mac, it looks like I'm going to have to grab the pitch fork, and burning torch, since my vote is all I got.
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Post Post #538 (ISO) » Tue Apr 03, 2007 1:20 am

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now a ranger is replaced by...now a ranger. The circumstances behind the incidents that resulted in his banning have been explained to my satisfaction, so he's back in the game.
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Post Post #539 (ISO) » Tue Apr 03, 2007 3:54 am

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Only one of the three questions was answered correctly... the rest are a little iffy.

I'm only partially sure about this lynch.
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Post Post #540 (ISO) » Tue Apr 03, 2007 9:11 am

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I feel confidant with a hammer on YB. I think TCS will agree that there were specific things I was going for, and it would have been pretty simple for a Townie to answer the questions bang on.
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Post Post #541 (ISO) » Tue Apr 03, 2007 9:16 am

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HAMMAH HAMMAH!
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Post Post #542 (ISO) » Tue Apr 03, 2007 9:21 am

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Should we give YB one more chance? I will ask him to, in his next post, answer the questions again, with
clear, precise answers
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For the record, I am not sastisfied with how he answered them, so I won't object to a hammer, I just think that maybe (somehow) he didn't know that I wanted him to not beat around the bush, but to answer the questions straight-up.
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Post Post #543 (ISO) » Tue Apr 03, 2007 9:47 am

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I'm thinking that, if YB isn't scum, then the person who hammers might be afraid he'll be killed the next day because the mafia will have ammo to use against him/her. Therefore, I'll
unvote
for now until someone else makes a decision. Then, if no one has hammered, I will hammer.

Don't get me wrong here; I think YB is a good lynch for today.
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Post Post #544 (ISO) » Tue Apr 03, 2007 9:56 am

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FOS: NAR
for the inexplicable unvote.

I'm pretty sure NAR is scum with YB... his posts indicate scum, and now this combined with YB's less than convincing townie claim...
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Post Post #545 (ISO) » Tue Apr 03, 2007 9:58 am

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Oh, and I'm not voting yet because I want to hammah. That's really the only reason.
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Post Post #546 (ISO) » Tue Apr 03, 2007 9:59 am

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see..... I knew this would happen. If you looked, i said other people are afraid to hammer, so I will wait for someone to vote YB, then I can follow up with the HAMMAH.

Therefore, if someone has to go tomorrow, and people seem to think that the hammerer is always scum. This makes the mafia have good ammo to get the town to go with them and kill a townie for a lynch. If someone has to go, and the mafia are going to use the ammo no matter what to kill a townie, let it be me, as I'm no doubt the weakest player here.
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Post Post #547 (ISO) » Tue Apr 03, 2007 10:00 am

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in case YB is townie, that is. the mafia have ammo
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Post Post #548 (ISO) » Tue Apr 03, 2007 10:07 am

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MM wrote:Yellowbounder, can you elaborate on your vanilla claim (e.g.
role name
, flavor,
win condition
?
)
Ok you only answered the flavor part of my question. Can you at least tell me your role name and win condition please?
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Post Post #549 (ISO) » Tue Apr 03, 2007 10:07 am

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Maybe he needs time making up a believable claim.

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