Mini 1543--Natirasha's On Parole!(Game Over)

[RossWilliam]

Wow, Selkies, you now know more about my history on this site then I remember myself. Clearly I wasn't exactly a distinguished player, and I don't plan on getting replaced on day two of this game.


Notscience, I'm down with an Aronis wagon because pressure makes diamonds, or something like that.

[RossWilliam]

Oh...

I thought Goodfather's pretty town (i Lol'd when he/she brought up that "Selkies is scum cos post counts from past games" thing...kabooooom probably the most questionable (4 posts, although 1 post while easily fake-able seemed legit...could easily be coasting scum, considering his vote is from the RVS stage and it hasn't been removed since...)

you really want Aronis dead today? Only concern is how much info that lynch gives, but...

Also, Muffin - his responses to Selkies and co. haven't been particularly impressive, but then again what SEEMS town is he is being so guarded and is drawing attention to himself by digging himself into holes (by being so stubborn)....bad logic by me, but still...

You think being guarded and drawing attention to yourself and digging yourself into holes are town qualities?

[Bert]

makes yourself the center of attention, also draws out scum and dummies if you are town

/bad statement from Bert - ok really gotta run now though

[Selkies]

50/50, same with Aronis.

Both are universally scummy if you go by the conventional scumtell book.

Vote: Selkies

Gut for now, I want Ffery to speak more about the broader picture - not just things that are comfortable for her to write, like meta on a specific few players - that lets her off the hook from having to talk about everyone.

You know how well this works with me.

[MafiaSSK]

Yo muffin, what do you think of your company on the selkies wagon?

i think katsuki is probably town
i dunno about kaboom, i don't remember anything he's written
goodfather i dunno, i don't really have any issues with him and some things he's written look townish
and aronis i dunno, i see things that give me minor town vibes, and i think a lot of the "scumminess" in his play has to do with him being a newbie rather than his alignment

Finally! A serious read post from Muffin.
Except not really.
Gives no explanation for his town reads.
And the rest is just vagueness.
way to go muffinman.

You guys wonder why my vote is on him still? It's because he's still scum and hasn't done anything to show himself as town!

[Bert]

You know how well this works with me.

I would hope it would work well this time!

[FourTrouble]

Selkies, if you had to guess the scum-team, who?

[FourTrouble]

notscience, I'd like a response to some of the questions I asked you about Aronis.

[FourTrouble]

notscience, I have a few more questions for you.

1. Why are 197 and 230 town posts? (zMuffin)
2. Why are 255 and 258 town posts? (Katsuki)
3. Why is idiotking scum? There should be more to your answer than just, "because he's voting SSK." Is there some meta informing your read?
4. What do you think of SSK? Town or scum? If scum, why do you have a problem with idiotking? If town, how does that reconcile with your read on Aronis?

[FourTrouble]

Bert, why is notscience town?

[Bert]

He *could* be fooling me, but it's a townvibe based on his reckless abandon and tunnel tendencies/aggression (I have had many past games with him before).

[FourTrouble]

I don't know his meta - can you answer quick question? Is he competent enough to put forth "reasoning" as scum?

[Bert]

Yes, he is without a doubt competent enough to do that.

[Cabd]

I must admit, however, that despite my reluctance to vote selkies, that ffery has sounded a few off notes in reactions. I'd tell her what they were, but then she might reverse engineer them, so I'll just give one.

[Cabd]

50/50, same with Aronis.

Both are universally scummy if you go by the conventional scumtell book.

Vote: Selkies

Gut for now, I want Ffery to speak more about the broader picture - not just things that are comfortable for her to write, like meta on a specific few players - that lets her off the hook from having to talk about everyone.

You know how well this works with me.

^This

[FourTrouble]

What's wrong with that post?

[FourTrouble]

Bert, what are your thoughts on idiotking?

[Cabd]

What's wrong with that post?

It's a reference to a newbie game that Myself, Bert, and ffery were in. Ffery was scum and I don't see town her bringing it up in passing like that. Her and I have a long backstory basically going back to my join date; and a good majority of our games onsite have been in the same games, and sometimes in the same slots. It just feels "off"

[Selkies]

50/50, same with Aronis.

Both are universally scummy if you go by the conventional scumtell book.

Vote: Selkies

Gut for now, I want Ffery to speak more about the broader picture - not just things that are comfortable for her to write, like meta on a specific few players - that lets her off the hook from having to talk about everyone.

You know how well this works with me.

^This

heh. GiF's AA game. I'm pretty sure bert knows exactly what I mean.

That said, I actually will post a reads list sometime today.

I'd still like for you to talk about your Aronis read.

p-edit Wrong game, Cabd.

[Cabd]

I'd still like for you to talk about your Aronis read.

He's scum. What of it?

[Bert]

It's a reference to a newbie game that Myself, Bert, and ffery were in.

Nice catch. I didn't get the reference from the past.

Bert, what are your thoughts on idiotking?

When I came in, I saw the SSK vs. Idiotking as TvT, but that read is stale now because he/she has done nothing much but make posts (not in spades) almost exclusively to continue a 1v1 with SSK and do nothing much else.

I felt that neither player was going too negative or ad hom in their interactions, and I liked that about it. Didn't remind me of a Metaphe vs. Micc from the past (reference you won't get).

[Cabd]

Bert, be nice and link the games, FT is clearly interesting in knowing the contexts.

[Selkies]

I'd still like for you to talk about your Aronis read.

He's scum. What of it?

I'm asking for your reasoning.

[Bert]

Links for Fourtrouble if he/she is curious <3

Spoiler:

(1 http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=32007

1 v 1 (T vs. S)

ad hom/negative war: completed Newbie 1438 Micc vs. Metaphe Day 1
I could link past ad hom wars (including those of mine in 1482 past Castle) that get ugly, but I won’t because that isn’t relevant here.

(2)

Notscience

scum game (the only somewhat recent completed one I know of aside from two lurkfestivals in Open 534 (completed) and Micro 254 (completed). I’m out of date about notscience past games and scum, though… -

Mini Normal Cash Cabd (completed):

Scum: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=31155

Town: (past Newbie 1419):
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=30676
Sorry bout the bad organization of links.

[Bert]

To be honest, I had you as null. And I still don't know what to think of you, but I figured I might as well move my vote, since

voting notscience wasn't going to help a thing

.

Did you remove the vote because you didn't want to continue arguing with him since he thinks you're scum, so that then there's less conflict with him?

Did you figure out why you were suspicious of notscience in the first place when you voted him? Your vote was on notscience for a grand total of ~ 12 hours...