The MafiaScum Minecraft Thread - AllTheMods 9!!! - NEW Vanilla?

[Xalxe]

It wants you all to stahp fighting

[Rhinox]

the server is lagging incredibly hard. is there a known cause?

If I had to guess, it is some kind of memory leak in the snapshot. It wasn't happening before the snapshot like this, and it gets better when the server is restarted. We had some minor lag before the snapshot upgrade, but that went away when klaz upgraded the server to 2gigs. Then we upgraded to the snapshot and the lag came back much worse like you're experiencing.

I could be wrong, but that seems to make sense with whats happening.

[Maestro]

Er, yeah, no. This horrendous lag started right after Klaz upgraded us to 2GB, and has been going on semi-sporadirandomly since.
This is not the fault of the snapshot, it is something in the server or it is something to do with our hosts, or both.

[T-Bone]

Lower your max fps to 30 frames. Should help quite a bit.

[Pizzadudes7]

Er, yeah, no. This horrendous lag started right after Klaz upgraded us to 2GB, and has been going on semi-sporadirandomly since.
This is not the fault of the snapshot, it is something in the server or it is something to do with our hosts, or both.

But but but snapshot yucky

[Untrod Tripod]

I made a starter house for anyone who wants it! Here are some pictures

Spoiler:

It comes with a bed and chests full of items. Also a branch mine. It's at the intersection of a few biomes. There's a sign out front that points to the locations of a lava lake and a water lake.

[Tierce]

(17:24:33) Tierce: M, I've figured out the main cause of the lag, I think. When mobs pick up items, they don't despawn naturally. I had a LOT of zombies in a cave by my place, which had found cave chickens and all grabbed eggs. With a Looting 2 sword, I ended up with 67 rotten flesh and three egg stacks.
(17:24:51) Tierce: So the mobs need to be purged systematically on the server or they won't despawn.
(17:25:02) Tierce: This is apparently something that came up with 1.7.4.
(17:25:36) Tierce: Not even the snapshot's fault, and I'd know because I had been hearing zombies by my base for quite a while. Turns out they were *still the same ones*.
(17:25:38) davroe19: Probably not a *terrible* idea. I always hated it when I died and mobs picked up my armor and then despawned.
(17:25:57) davroe19: terrible for lag though
(17:26:04) Tierce: Yes, dav, but on the other hand, mob populations can climb dramatically like this.
(17:26:06) Tierce: Yeah.
(17:26:14) Tierce: Like... 67 rotten flesh? Really?
(17:26:42) blakewashere left the room (quit: Quit: Web client closed).
(17:27:27) Tierce: It would be much better if they removed the ability for mobs to pick up eggs, and I think they're working on it.
(17:27:35) Tierce: This is caused by chicken jockeys, apparently.
(17:28:35) Tierce: https://mojang.atlassian.net/browse/MC-42174 Apparently not fixed at all, ugh.
(17:28:52) Tierce: Either way, if you hear zombies, light up the areas if you can.

Long story short is: it's unlikely that, even if Mojang cleans up the despawn zombie + chicken issue for chicken jockeys, that the chickens that have so far been spawned in caves will be despawned by the system. Therefore, we should clean up the areas as much as possible. If you hear zombie sounds in the same area, repeatedly, or a chicken in a cave,

please

try and find your way to them. You can only hear mobs from up to 16 blocks away, so that's the search radius. Kill the chickens, kill mobs carrying eggs, light up the area.

Klaz, I don't know if you have been in Vanilla recently, but if you have, I can help you patrol areas you have visited to make sure there are no mob sounds indicative of mob groups.

Alternatively, and I don't know how much M is up for this, temporarily using a resource pack with transparent stone textures would help identify where there are cave chickens and deal with those before they lay more eggs and create more mob mobs.

[Xalxe]

Ah, the Mindcrack issue.

[Rhinox]

huh... thats something alright, but idk if that's what is causing the current problems.

I mean, the day you were afk at your village breeder, so many villagers spawned that hostile mobs stopped spawning at night, because we were over the mob limit. Lag was bad then for sure, but the recent lag has been bad AND new mobs continue to spawn, which tells me we're not hitting a mob limit. Mobs not despawning like you described can't be good in general, but idk if digging holes every to go kill chickens is really going to fix the problem we've been having.

Was anyone else online when UT was complaining about the lag this morning? Because, a zombie horde under tierce's base wouldn't be causing problems for the whole server if the chunks weren't loaded. Though, it probably explains the frame rate drop when approaching your house though, tierce.

[Tierce]

I already dealt with the horde and lit up the area--I also patrolled everywhere nearby to see if I heard zombies. Villagers attract zombies from up to 32 blocks away, IIRC, so that can't be it anymore unless there is

yet

another horde nearby that is just far off enough that I can't hear it through the walls. If that is what's happening, I guess I'll have to hunt them down through entity count checks.

The question is: has anyone had framerate issues by my place in the

last 48 hours

? Framerate will always decrease a bit there, but it shouldn't be anywhere near as bad as described at this point in time.

[T-Bone]

I've been noticing a bunch of zombie noises around my build at all times during the day, so I concur.

[Claus]

That is a pretty amusing buggy behavior

[Gabegonzo]

Same here. I guess I'll have to go hunting under my area soon. Sounds like they are filming a Thriller video somewhere around me.

[Kcdaspot]

first:

I know where some of those zombs are spawning.





I took care of it. filled it all in with dirt.

second:





FINALLY SWORD AND PICKAXE HERE I COME!!!

[Maestro]

nice 6-blocker there bra

[Untrod Tripod]

where's my plantation, maestro?

you have five hours

[Maestro]

lol

[Maestro]

Don't test me, UT - I could feasibly do it.

[Untrod Tripod]

[Maruchan]

Hey, guys.

NOT COOL.

My stable is handled by a mechanism that fools them into thinking they don't have space to escape. I haven't had trouble with this so far.

However, at least three horses have escaped today. This means someone was inside my stable and either rode them or pushed them out of their stalls. And then didn't ride them back. Why would you do something like that?

And who the hell cut down ALL the swamp trees by my place? They have specific shapes, I can't replant them, and you didn't even bother to leave a note or saplings. Trees OUTSIDE the wall! In my area!

In other words, yeah, I'm pissed. This is a lack of respect.

the horses were getting out because of the server lag M was mentioning I do believe, I saw one running around when i ran to bag end to sleep.

[Maruchan]

That was a very cool world. I was the one that discovered the griefing. I was really sad that my entire village was burnt down and my "awesome" wooden bridge. I loved that world.

Whatever I don't care about the idea anymore. Take your shit up with whoever still cares about having a town at spawn.

I don't care anymore, only us three really mentioned wanting it from the already-playing group and nobody else really wants to so meh.

[Rhinox]

That is amazing. Did you do that already on this server? I tried to do a kind of expanding stacked branch mine system like that in the past and never got close to making it that far.

[Untrod Tripod]

yeah, that's what I did today/yesterday

it's the entire layer that diamond can spawn in

[Maruchan]

I don't mind neighbors. But you know what happened on the last server? Overnight, Bulbazak's gigantic spruce planks cube sprouted up on "my" area.

Just as a side note, I had put a chest with a few sticks and a lil bit of food on that island where you both wanted to build about 24 hours after the server started, before M's castle on the mountain started, and decided I wanted to move in there. Then when I logged back in like a month later i was glitched into some giant hugeass ugly monstrosity that was made to look like an archery range and saw two others had claimed my tiny island.


JUS SAYIN

but i never mentioned it cuz I didn't care enough about dat gorgeous island.

[Untrod Tripod]

man, I miss when Maruchan had a little room in my house