NY 169: The EPIC XD Mafia Game of Greatness (Game Over)

[Cephrir]

Your reads are just straight up terrible domo

Sorry mate

I'm even reconsidering SAD

=/

[DOMO]

Sorry mate

I don't care. Sometimes they are, sometimes they aren't. I don't expect you to hi5 and say "hey domo you're fucking awesome" if I'm right, you're obviously going to tell me I'm wrong because either I am or you want people to think I am.

[Norlkaz]

I withdraw my townread on Broseidon.
Desp might be scum. Casso might be scum; they have some townie posts but aren't at Nachotown's power / energy level.
20 hours is still enough time to lynch Cephrir.

I think I'm one or two massive timechunks away from a real grip on this game; feel free to run me up D3 if I'm slow on them though it should really already be pretty clear I'm town.

[DOMO]

No it's not clear you're town nork. Not having enough time to really get involved was a null tell last time I checked.

[Cephrir]

If Casso pulls ahead of Desp, I will volunteer to be lynched

[Cephrir]

We're going to lose this game because Cabd/ffery/Nacho are all town and no one is listening to them

[geists]

Sorry mate

I don't care. Sometimes they are, sometimes they aren't. I don't expect you to hi5 and say "hey domo you're fucking awesome" if I'm right, you're obviously going to tell me I'm wrong because either I am or you want people to think I am.

The main problem I have with some of your reads is that they're web with Nacho in the center. Even if Nacho is scum (which I doubt, but you already know that), not all reactions/interactions you've pointed up are going to lead to scum. Town players sometimes have a pretty strong "wrong place, wrong time" syndrome to their stances, and even to their arrival and vote timing. Bad reads, coincidental timing, etc.

Also,

@bert

you asked if Nati is sure that Nacho is scum. He is not sure. In fact he agrees with me in thinking that Nacho is town. He had other reasons for putting that vote down when he did. Which is a relief to me because I thought we had some major hydra dissonance going on.

Nati feels like desp's posting looks pretty fake and I'm not so happy with how my thought experiment went, so I'm going to go ahead and do this:

VOTE: Desperado

[KoreanBBQ]

VOTE: Desperado

L-1

[DOMO]

I'm not going to oppose a hammer but I expect a town flip so I'm not hammering.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

If Casso pulls ahead of Desp, I will volunteer to be lynched

^ This reads as so manipulative. You CANNOT be so certain that Nacho is town that you are willing to get lynched in his place. Nacho is a good scum player. There will always be uncertainty and paranoia. Even ffery who can read him like a book isn't certain of his affiliation.

I'll get to all the conversations I left hanging on D3. But Cephrir wagon would actually be pretty awesome right now.

I think the quote above is an attempt to get townread because GIF did a similar thing (offer to get lynched) and got townread for it.

Between Desp and Nacho, I am really not sure. Tammy was being wierded out by Desp so that's a point against him and I am not confident in this read as much since it looks so much different from the town-Desp I know and love from the two games I've played with him and one I modded. He says he is changing his meta and I am really not clear on why.

If Nacho is town and we lynch him, I won't sleep tonight. BUT, he is giving me a lot of Nacho-scum vibes. For instance, his huge reads list seems off at a gut level. All his reasoning seems to be the generally accepted popular opinion although it is all quite good.

[pieguyn]

vote: Desp

\o/

[DOMO]

I'll get to all the conversations I left hanging on D3. But Cephrir wagon would actually be pretty awesome right now.

I would agree.

[Bert]

Intent to hamma

please claim please claim please

[DOMO]

Oh, hammer. Not sure I like that but I did just say I wouldn't oppose it so I can hardly complain. It would've been nice to see if we could get ceph lynched though.

Any in the event I get NK'ed, gl town.

pedit - hammered

[Bert]

domo's scumreads are pretty spot on with what I feel on gut anyway

[Cephrir]

If Casso pulls ahead of Desp, I will volunteer to be lynched

^ This reads as so manipulative. You CANNOT be so certain that Nacho is town that you are willing to get lynched in his place. Nacho is a good scum player. There will always be uncertainty and paranoia. Even ffery who can read him like a book isn't certain of his affiliation.

I'm not. I think there is a very very very good chance he is town, and I can see the writing on the wall re: me definitely getting lynched eventually. I am not an asset to town at this point; if anything, I am just a distraction, sucking up the energy of ffery & co pseudodefending me when they could be finding scum instead.

Also, I'm not having fun right now.

[DOMO]

Basically ceph I'm reading it like this...

Yeah lynch me guys, but whatever you do don't lynch casso and then gunsmith check me.

[DOMO]

Because I'd ask to be gunsmith'd rather than lynched.

[Generic]

I don't get pieguyns post, I thought he was already voting desperado.

[DOMO]

Oh right it was gambit? Haha awesome if it was, I totally fell for it.

[DOMO]

Desperado (7) - MC Maraca, Casso the King of Seals, Sakura Hana, Generic, Cephrir, Ser Arthur Dayne, pieguyn

Haha.

Great. Who wants to lynch cephrir?

[DOMO]

I do.

vote cephrir

[Sakura Hana]

I'm not going to flashwagon a null read over a scumread.

[Cephrir]

Basically ceph I'm reading it like this...

Yeah lynch me guys, but whatever you do don't lynch casso and then gunsmith check me.

You aren't going to survive the night. If you want to waste your time checking me and then lynching me anyway on suspicion of being a mafia doc, like you probably will, try it.

[geists]

Way to ruin a reaction test guys.