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Post Post #1175 (ISO) » Wed Jan 08, 2014 3:31 pm

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In post 1171, kanyeknowsbest wrote:
In post 1168, The Purple Plague wrote:
In post 1165, Selkies wrote:How strong is your read on LLD, nacho?

Pedit I feel like my post asking for your thought process or at least some smidgen of reasoning got ignored
My LLD town read is probably like 2 notches weaker than kanye's.
huh when did you get a town read on lambda
A while ago.
Then I got paranoid, and then you reassured me.
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Post Post #1176 (ISO) » Wed Jan 08, 2014 3:41 pm

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In post 1165, Selkies wrote:Pedit I feel like my post asking for your thought process or at least some smidgen of reasoning got ignored
I'm not sure you could handle my thought process.
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Post Post #1177 (ISO) » Wed Jan 08, 2014 3:49 pm

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In post 1176, Natirasha wrote:
In post 1165, Selkies wrote:Pedit I feel like my post asking for your thought process or at least some smidgen of reasoning got ignored
I'm not sure you could handle my thought process.
How fascinating.
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Post Post #1178 (ISO) » Wed Jan 08, 2014 4:10 pm

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In post 1135, Selkies wrote:Why doesn't he seem like the type to play WIFOM? Seems like that got pulled out of your ass.
Are you reading the game? He showed absolutely no guile in basically anything he said and was the same way the last time I played with him.
In post 1157, kanyeknowsbest wrote:wth dude
"Everyone thinks my suspects are town so there's no reason to vote them because I will just be posturing and since I'm not scum I'm not going to posture" or some similar bullshit. Anyways, maybe you could explain why everyone has a town read on you because no one else can or will and I'm not seeing it.
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Post Post #1179 (ISO) » Wed Jan 08, 2014 4:14 pm

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Here's a deal: if you tell me why you think he's scum, I'll tell you why I think he's town.
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Post Post #1180 (ISO) » Wed Jan 08, 2014 4:15 pm

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In post 1167, The Purple Plague wrote:
In post 1164, Natirasha wrote:
In post 1159, The Purple Plague wrote:As a serial killer?
What?
You could be scum too. More likely SK though.
But you've been calling me a shooter for a while now, hence why suddenly going "oh he's running out of mislynch targets" is a big :/
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Post Post #1181 (ISO) » Wed Jan 08, 2014 4:34 pm

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In post 1178, Debonair Danny DiPietro wrote:Are you reading the game? He showed absolutely no guile in basically anything he said and was the same way the last time I played with him.
'Who said the WIFOM was conscious
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Post Post #1182 (ISO) » Wed Jan 08, 2014 4:36 pm

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In post 1180, The Purple Plague wrote:But you've been calling me a shooter for a while now, hence why suddenly going "oh he's running out of mislynch targets" is a big :/
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I don't really think so.
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Post Post #1183 (ISO) » Wed Jan 08, 2014 4:39 pm

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I do! And my opinion matters more than yours ever since I stopped talking in metaphors.
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Post Post #1184 (ISO) » Wed Jan 08, 2014 4:46 pm

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But when the kelp breaths, the whole world stands still.
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Post Post #1185 (ISO) » Wed Jan 08, 2014 5:47 pm

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In post 1179, The Purple Plague wrote:Here's a deal: if you tell me why you think he's scum, I'll tell you why I think he's town.
I already said why I had issues with his play in the very post where I asked for explanations why he was town, I know I post at a blistering rate but do try to keep up.
In post 1181, Selkies wrote:
In post 1178, Debonair Danny DiPietro wrote:Are you reading the game? He showed absolutely no guile in basically anything he said and was the same way the last time I played with him.
'Who said the WIFOM was conscious
Is this really an argument you're making? Like I don't even understand where the hell you're going with this other than arguing for the sake of arguing.
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Post Post #1186 (ISO) » Wed Jan 08, 2014 6:13 pm

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In post 1185, Debonair Danny DiPietro wrote:Is this really an argument you're making? Like I don't even understand where the hell you're going with this other than arguing for the sake of arguing.
Nah, I'm just trying to understand where your head is at. This line makes me feel better about voting you without fery's consent though.
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Post Post #1187 (ISO) » Wed Jan 08, 2014 6:32 pm

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In post 1158, Natirasha wrote:
In post 1155, Selkies wrote:Yeah when I said nacho not liking you I mean nacho does not have a favorable read on you from what I can tell
It's more mara from what I can tell.

I think they're running out of acceptable mislynch targets.
Uhm... what?

I actually have a vague town-read on you because I'm hard-pressed to find the scum-motivation behind what you're doing regardless of how anti-town it is
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Post Post #1188 (ISO) » Wed Jan 08, 2014 6:33 pm

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Then wtf have you been going on about?
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Post Post #1189 (ISO) » Wed Jan 08, 2014 6:39 pm

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Nothing?

I havn't pushed a single thing against you, nor have I placed a single post in this game

( I havn't even talked to you other than the inital Vig outting attempt)
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Post Post #1190 (ISO) » Wed Jan 08, 2014 6:44 pm

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also, instead of trying to out our killer who is possibly town, how about we give that person a direction to take tonight, and get DDD lynched.

If that person doesn't follow through with the "suggestions" and ends up hitting town, tomorrow we mass-claim and lynch the claimed second killer
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Post Post #1191 (ISO) » Wed Jan 08, 2014 7:10 pm

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In post 1085, Selkies wrote:Yes. You are conftown. I never suggested otherwise. Which means that I value your reads as one that I know to be coming as from town. Given that I'm still trying to get my reads sorted as a result of not being in the game, yours would be helpful to give me something to build on.

I want to work with you, not be your goddamn lap dog. And I've laid down quite clearly that I want to see Magua-scum before I'm willing to vote the slot. That's not rolling over. That's refusing to do so.
this pings rather nicely.

I think DDD is scum.

Magua is bothering me a little, but Garmr was incredibly town that I find it hard to believe that he actually subbed into a scum-slot.

From where I'm standing, it looks like Penguins read on Garmr/Magua is flavor, which I think is an incredibly stupid means to scum-read someone because of who the mods are (not that I know much about this flavor anyway)

Nati is weird, but I can't find any scum-motivation behind what he's doing. He is basically going from calling us SK, to maybe Vig, to SK, to Scum, to SK with a small chance of being scum with a huge mess in the path he's taken so I can see where Nacho is coming from with his nati-read and I don't really care enough to argue against it, or interfere with that read. I can't really find any trajectory behind his thoughts behind the second killer and it's almost like he's teleporting from one place to another.

I'm a little irked that Peng outted the fact that there were three masons to begin with, but it helps with some of the thoughts I had. the reveal that this may have a day-talk mechanic is huge though I don't really know wher she's hinted that.

Despite it being a slow game, Kanye's tried to pull the reigns and get other people to talk regardless of the minimal material to work with which is town as fuck. I don't see why anyone is scum-reading him at this point.

Basically, at this point, Peng, Club, Syr, and Kanye are untouchable reads atm

Nacho trusts Kaye's LLD read, so she is also untouchable

which leaves

DDD, you, magua and nati
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Post Post #1192 (ISO) » Wed Jan 08, 2014 7:11 pm

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In post 1178, Debonair Danny DiPietro wrote:
In post 1135, Selkies wrote:Why doesn't he seem like the type to play WIFOM? Seems like that got pulled out of your ass.
Are you reading the game? He showed absolutely no guile in basically anything he said and was the same way the last time I played with him.
In post 1157, kanyeknowsbest wrote:wth dude
"Everyone thinks my suspects are town so there's no reason to vote them because I will just be posturing and since I'm not scum I'm not going to posture" or some similar bullshit. Anyways, maybe you could explain why everyone has a town read on you because no one else can or will and I'm not seeing it.
sasume its because they think im obvtown. do you think im scum? if so why arent you voting me?
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Post Post #1193 (ISO) » Wed Jan 08, 2014 7:22 pm

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If you're town, then that would mean DDD, Magua, and Nati are the scum-team and that's a really, really weird scum team IMO

I could also be giving Syr a little bit to much Leeway because of how Bo acted, but...
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Post Post #1194 (ISO) » Wed Jan 08, 2014 7:48 pm

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In post 1192, kanyeknowsbest wrote:sasume its because they think im obvtown. do you think im scum? if so why arent you voting me?
They think you're town because they think you're obvtown; that's not a why kkb, I want to know why. I think you might be scum but I'm hardly confidant in that fact and I fail to see a benefit in voting for you. Frankly I think intentionally not voting to this point has been worth the reactions I'm getting because they're interesting, I'm just not sure what they mean.
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Post Post #1195 (ISO) » Wed Jan 08, 2014 7:55 pm

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believe the problem here is that sure maybe a vote on me wouldnt have achieved anything, but maybe it would have. sitting on your vote achieves absolutely nothing except making it harder for us to get a grip on your thoughts of the game. not really seeing the town benefit there.

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Post Post #1196 (ISO) » Wed Jan 08, 2014 8:16 pm

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1189-1191 was...nacho? I kinda want to know before responding to them.
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Post Post #1197 (ISO) » Wed Jan 08, 2014 8:17 pm

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In post 1193, The Purple Plague wrote:If you're town, then that would mean DDD, Magua, and Nati are the scum-team and that's a really, really weird scum team IMO

I could also be giving Syr a little bit to much Leeway because of how Bo acted, but...
Why is this?

Wait, so you were townreading bo?
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Post Post #1198 (ISO) » Wed Jan 08, 2014 8:20 pm

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No, this is mara ok.

What don't you like about Magua? I kinda like magua much moe than I liked garmr. Fery I recall had a hard town on him though, so I think our reads line up nicely.

Who would you suggest as a vig target?
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Post Post #1199 (ISO) » Wed Jan 08, 2014 8:25 pm

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In post 1187, The Purple Plague wrote:I actually have a vague town-read on you because I'm hard-pressed to find the scum-motivation behind what you're doing regardless of how anti-town it is
Um.

One line, bare minimum zingers with no transparency has quite a bit of scum-motivation.

For one, you get to avoid any responsibility for coming up with your fake reads
For two, you don't draw any scumreads because you're providing content even though it doesn't even mean anything
For three, you discourage people questioning you because it's futile. For instance, if somebody questioned me and I ignored them, it would be pretty suspicious. Versus Nati, who can just cherry pick whatever he wants to comment on because he does all of jackshit.
Like I mean there's so much scum motivation in this playstyle idgi

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