NY 168: (GAME OVER) The Mod is Dead, Fire and Ice Edition

[NJAC]

Vote: Yuni

How about this instead then

I don't really like the quickwagon on you at any rate, and I've learned a lot of your game style from the C9++ that we played

This was adressed to Aptil, right? What game was that? What did you learn about his playstyle there? How that relates to THIS game?

[NJAC]

@ Bulb: Which team is Mastin on?

No clue. I'd probably have to reread him in ISO. I just know that this is not town Mastin posting. There's a lot of double talk from him, where he's giving himself outs, and he's playing it way too safe, which I think is due to this being a multi-scum game.

How does town-mastin post? Do you think is it possible he's playing safe to avoid being NKed? I mean he says he is a likely target on N1 or N2 in multiscum games, what do you think? Also, is it possible he hasn't had enough time to engage in this game properly?

[NJAC]

@ Aptil: I disagree completely, Toomai's was the only vote I really liked on you. You see him blaming others, I see him calling Yuni out for not having any conviction.

Why did you like Toomai's vote on Aptil? Do you think Aptil deserves more votes or not?

[NJAC]

Off now. Sorry for the multiposting: I have limited time a day to post.

[Matias]

NJAC, who did you replace?

[mastin2]

Uhg. Really don't feel like posting right now, but I'm fairly certain it's already been two days, so I don't exactly have a choice.

What inquiry would that be, Scumstin?

The bit about an Ice scum player voting Aptil and commenting on Maxous's nightkill. You called out Yunichika for it, when PV did the exact same thing--yet you let it slide by from him.

@ Bulb: Which team is Mastin on?

I already claimed:
Warm.

Yuni, TSO, and Toomai are all town on this page

Yiley is scummy. "Hey guys, don't worry about the hammer, we really need to go on the attack and not be so defensive!!!" /does nothing

You're gonna need to explain Toomai-town/Yiley-scum to me, since I got the opposite impression.

Also, random note. NJAC, I realize I misread you last game, but I'm reading you scum this game, too, through a combo of Antihero's (lack of) posting and your entrance lacking...hmm, not sure what's the word. Heart? Best word I've got--your posting lacks the heart I'd expect from a town player.

[aptil]

v/la till the 2nd of Jan .

[Toomai]

JKLM hasn't posted in 5+[night]+3 days. Can we prod him?

Not a fan of NJAC's initial entrance (looks kinda noncomittal and "help me find the majority opinion"), but he then asks some decent questions.

[Slandaar]

I have no interest in starting a necromancy war when his flip completely suits your agenda. I get you've been lining me up since d1, but here isn't where you'll do it.

Ah, yes, necromancy war. You mean that I asked you yesterday numerous times to explain your vote which you failed to do because you didn't want to debate your vote with me. Then once he flips town you cry foul because it is unfair to force you to explain it now as obviously the reasoning is wrong, even though you had multiple opportunities yesterday to do so which would have prevented the whole situation but because he flipped town I am in the wrong.

VOTE: TSO

Lynch this.

[T S O]

and there we go, let's start the necromancy war.

[T S O]

Fine, we ride.

Show that I deliberately didn't give a case because I didn't have one as opposed to being a lazy fuck.

[Slandaar]

That isn't the argument I am making.

I think you had a bad reason (as posted) which you probably thought is good, couldn't be bothered to post it yesterday because it doesn't matter what Dry flips at the end of the day, then when he flips town you cry foul because it isn't fair that I am still trying to get you to explain it.

From my POV, I showed why the wagon was wrong, the only argument other than the one I invalidated was Desp's nonsense which was appauling because town will defend themselves in weird ways it isn't inherent to scum. The 'hypocritical' defence was because he couldn't explain it how I could. So, when you act like I am unfairly questioning you on your unexplained vote because you were wrong it is amusingly obvious you are scum.

[T S O]

Now show me where the scumminess is as opposed to complete laziness.

Your explanation is nearly right, I'll reword it for you.

I had a good reason, as posted, which I knew was good, couldn't be bothered to post it because I was very sure Dry-fit was scum, because there was no resistance to require the case, because the person asking for it (you) was being an antagonistic fuck and because I was being lazy, then when he flipped Town I cry foul because it isn't fair that the crux of your argument is that I was wrong.

[Slandaar]

Sland asks TSO for reason of vote
Sland again asks TSO
Maybe a 3rd I forget how many times I asked... etc.

Dry flips town

Sland asks again

Dry: NO FAIR NO FAIR NECROMANCY WAR THIS IS UNFAIR.

The laughable reaction is scum; the 'unfair' attitude comes from scum.

[RachMarie]

Turns out my friend does not have unlimited net (her choice) and we are currently in Atlanta GA and will be flying back to CA tomorrow. Wonky net here in the hotel but will do what I can. We are buying a house in TN and we of course will make SURE we have unlimited net when we move there

[T S O]

Your last post is such a bundle of misreps, strawmen and general horseshit I don't know where to begin.

[Slandaar]

Of course.

You probably should be voting me then.

[Garmr]

I'm going to be having a days break I don't feel to good at the moment. Will make a content post when I feel better.

[T S O]

But I vote people who I think are scum. And I don't think you're scum, I just feel you're completely misguided.

[Slandaar]

Well who do you think is scum then?

Uhg. Really don't feel like posting right now, but I'm fairly certain it's already been two days, so I don't exactly have a choice.

Thats right Mastin; you must post. If you are not up to the task of providing good content please sheep me instead of half hearting it. Question my cases if you want and vote the ones you agree with.

Think of it as playing on cruise control.

Scum;
Yuni/Toomai/TSO/EPM

Then theres a few mehish, those 4 are the big ones though.

[T S O]

Think that there's definitely scum within lurkers, don't think that both Bulbazak and Mastin are Town. I think Bulba is far too experienced to call aptil's hammer scummy and I don't know why he'd do it.

[PeregrineV]

The sum of Antihero posts were to vote Dry fit and accuse Toomai.

Why does that earn him death?

[PeregrineV]

Also, slowbrain now, but Maxous' group was the one that shot Antihero.

[Desperado]

Why are crappy hammers scummy?

They are not, always. It depends on how it's done.

Do you really think ice-scum announced their Maxous scumreads and then murdered him? That doesn't seem like good multiscum play to me.

Well, I think a player found Maxous scummy, and said it in the thread. Probably only once, maybe twice at the most. When they realized they couldn't get him lynched, they shut up, because they then figured they would NK him instead.
Granted, this is only speculation, and maybe it was an Ice member that Maxous called scum instead.

But, it's a criteria to look for.

OK, so what about the way aptil did his crappy hammer made it scummy?

A very weak one, I would argue.

Yiley is scummy. "Hey guys, don't worry about the hammer, we really need to go on the attack and not be so defensive!!!" /does nothing

I definitely don't think that's scummy. It's a "get your shiz together" post, to keep us all from doing something very silly.

It's a "get your shiz together" post that Yiley doesn't accompany with getting some shit together.

@ Aptil: I disagree completely, Toomai's was the only vote I really liked on you. You see him blaming others, I see him calling Yuni out for not having any conviction.

Why did you like Toomai's vote on Aptil? Do you think Aptil deserves more votes or not?

Toomai took the opposite approach from Yiley. Yiley begged us to not get bogged down by reactionary play but did nothing to change the status quo. Toomai took a stance, owned it, and even admonished someone else who had taken a similar stance and then illogically backed down from it. In other words, he was encouraging Yuni to get her shit together while walking the walk himself.

@ Bulb: Which team is Mastin on?

I already claimed:
Warm.

Yuni, TSO, and Toomai are all town on this page

Yiley is scummy. "Hey guys, don't worry about the hammer, we really need to go on the attack and not be so defensive!!!" /does nothing

You're gonna need to explain Toomai-town/Yiley-scum to me, since I got the opposite impression.

Also, random note. NJAC, I realize I misread you last game, but I'm reading you scum this game, too, through a combo of Antihero's (lack of) posting and your entrance lacking...hmm, not sure what's the word. Heart? Best word I've got--your posting lacks the heart I'd expect from a town player.

See above.

Of course.

You probably should be voting me then.

YES! YES! YES!

Who is scum besides TSO?

The sum of Antihero posts were to vote Dry fit and accuse Toomai.

Why does that earn him death?

Also, slowbrain now, but Maxous' group was the one that shot Antihero.

You meant to look at OGML, not Antihero.

Vote: Yiley

[ElectricSavages]

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