NY 169: The EPIC XD Mafia Game of Greatness (Game Over)

[Bert]

This wagon on Sakura feels so icky, it's not even funny

Unvote

[Casso the King of Seals]

ALSO NACHO
I still maintain there being a scum between Tammy and F-16, and I have a really hard time seeing F-16 scum so some light on the matter might help

I'm not Nacho but I'll field this one anyway because I know where you're coming from in not seeing Tammy town. Here's the situation;

Tammy is apparently utterly incapable of faking emotion as scum.

Yeah...that's pretty much the case, and, yeah, kinda mind-blowing innit? But people will defend this one, and the *really* screwy part is if you go and look at enough of the meta YOU START BUYING INTO IT. I really don't get it, myself, and apparently she's either a really bad actor (or I'm fething amazing and magical) and/or she's decided to permanently shoot her scum game in the foot in order to have an easier and lazier time when being town. But...yeah, that's the case. There isn't really an appropriate smilie icon to represent how I feel about that, so I'll just post this one because I don't see it used often.

[Casso the King of Seals]

This wagon on Sakura feels so icky, it's not even funny

Unvote

Then place your vote where it doesn't feel icky, explain why it doesn't feel icky, and move forward.

But, here's a shocking hint: She's "retiring" but wants to do so via a self vote and complaining to us instead of replacing out in what an actual ragequit looks like.
I know what my working theory is about what that really means.

[MC Maraca]

STILL TOWN

Casso the King of Seals (Nachomamma8 + Thor665)
MC Maraca (Cabd + Ms Marangal)
KoreanBBQ (GuyInFreezer + Nero Cain)
Muffin
Stuffed Crust (Mac + Varsoon)

TOWN

goodmorning
Cephrir
geist
Generic

TOWN?

DOMO
Tammy/F-16_Fighting_Falcon*
pieguyn

UHHH....

MafiaSSK roflwaffles
BROseidon
Norlkaz Brian Skies
Sakura Hana
Bert
Ser Arthur Dayne

NOT TOWN

Desperado

VERY NOT TOWN

Tammy/F-16_Fighting_Falcon*

*conditional, they aren't scum with the other, so if one flips scum the other moves to the townish pile however there is the chance that they are town, together. so, while a scum-flip clears the other, a town-flip wouldn't likely condemn the other

Pedit: but... I already linked a game where I think she used emotions of a sort to disarm me from furthering my case on her where she was scum.

also, F-16? you also said you agreed with him, there.

[Desperado]

mara i didn't see a question in that wall, can you quote it for me?

And you townread kills and nacho for acknowledging your soft claim and not killing you. how is that menial?

[Desperado]

molla and nacho, not kills and nacho

[Bert]

This wagon on Sakura feels so icky, it's not even funny

Unvote

Then place your vote where it doesn't feel icky, explain why it doesn't feel icky, and move forward.

But, here's a shocking hint: She's "retiring" but wants to do so via a self vote and complaining to us instead of replacing out in what an actual ragequit looks like.
I know what my working theory is about what that really means.

Ok that's reassuring

Also, Mara why's Tammy scum?

[Bert]

Also explain your Desp scumread while you're at it? <3

[MC Maraca]

@Desp:

can you explain maraca scum? mara is weirding me out a bit but she did that last time I played her so I can't tell shit > <

their reads are shit and mara's aggressiveness is extremely offputting after hydraing with her recently

@Desp:

can you explain maraca scum? mara is weirding me out a bit but she did that last time I played her so I can't tell shit > <

Desp can't read me for shit, either.

meanwhile, every game I play against him (and with him) I get better and better at reading him.

do we even have another completed game together beyond Wingate?

My aggression shouldn't be off-putting considering the biggest reason I wasn't aggressive in our game was because Our PR made us dying a very, very, very bad thing. I did whatever I could to not draw attention to us

also

Khan

and

Thor and (I think it was) Pitoli

(so... why is my aggression off-putting? considering that I have instances where I'm aggressive as town, and I wasn't aggressive in our game because of our role)

just checked

in always sunny town-you remarks to town-me that we have a terrible track record of reading each other

in walking dead town us read each other correctly

in maniacal town us read each other incorrectly until i was (falsely) conftowned based on bad setup spec

sounds like you just made some shit up, mara. why would you do that?

Sunny was our second game together, so yeah I stated that.

Walking dead, I'm pretty sure you were calling our slot town based on Neroposts. I am also pretty sure that you had stated that I wasn't that easy of a person to read.

Maniacal, Mala was reading you as scum, I was ambivalent (I think).

all those games just prove that you really can't read me.

also, Walking dead, I had correctly pinged you as town.

(I... didn't make anything up. what am I making up? and why get touchy on this, now when in the past you've admitted that you can't read me?)

@F16: You liar tell when stating that you're town but then don't liar tell that you don't know who scum are.

@Desp: What's the MC case? I've been townreading them all game and I get back to a bunch of "MC is scum" posts.

VOTE: MC

bad gambit, bad reads, weird mara blatantly lying about our meta to discredit me. really her whole reaction to me putting them in my scum team was off base:

Who is pick for a scumteam?

stuffed crust, maraca, geists, domo, dayne

Because Mara scum doesn't know how to mask partner interactions, and Marascum doesn't know how to make townies look like they are her partner in the event she flips town.

Cabdscum is even worse in regards to that, and doesn't know how to play scum, period.

ohwait...

@Desp:

can you explain maraca scum? mara is weirding me out a bit but she did that last time I played her so I can't tell shit > <

Desp can't read me for shit, either.

meanwhile, every game I play against him (and with him) I get better and better at reading him.

This isn't a case, love.

(and these are scum-tells... because?)

I had a huge wall going and then the server decided I don't need to wall.


Desp, why call me scum and then leave GM out of the "partner" discussion when I've spent a shitton of time calling her town to anyone that asks?

lol what

1) didn't you just get done telling me how sooper awsum you are at leaving fake partner tells?
2) why do you think my scumteam has anything to do with your interactions with the other people in it?

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Vote: MC Maraca

Cabd asked you that, I made the earlier remarks at making those fake tells.

(It was pretty obvious that the points you put here are not only authorship mis-association, but you took what I said seriously? I mean, yeah Those are a part of my scum game that I'm am

the

most proud of but comeon)

granted, the last part isn't really a question, but more of a "... you've got to be kidding me" kinda thing.

[Empire]

Day 1, Votecount 68

Sakura Hana (8)

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Tammy, Casso the King of Seals, DOMO, Ser Arthur Dayne, Sakura Hana, geists, Desperado, KoreanBBQ

Casso the King of Seals (3)

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zMuffinMan, goodmorning, Generic

Stuffed Crust (2)

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Cephrir, pieguyn

F-16_Fighting_Falcon (1)

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BROseidon

goodmorning (1)

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Norlkaz

Not Voting (5)

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MafiaSSK, F-16_Fighting_Falcon, Stuffed Crust, MC Maraca, Bert

With 20 alive, it takes 11 to lynch! Deadline is on December 26th at 3:45 PM EST or in (expired on 2013-12-26 16:44:27)

Mod Notes

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Varsoon head of Stuffed Crust V/LA until January 25th. F-16_Fighting_Falcon is V/LA until the 31st. goodmorning is V/LA until the 26th. DOMO is V/LA until the 27th. Generic is V/LA until the 26th.

[MafiaSSK]

So why is the wagon on Sakura even happening?

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Why are you confident she'll flip scum, Arthur?

She's obviously part of THE LIST

TM

This wagon on Sakura feels so icky, it's not even funny

Unvote

Please start committing to lynches ty.

[MC Maraca]

And you townread kills and nacho for acknowledging your soft claim and not killing you. how is that menial?

because Molla made it obvious. Nacho, however was a figment of my imagination based on what I expect him to pick up on, and based on the (probs. unrealistic) expectation of nacho's scum-game.

I've also spent all day explaining why I think Tammy is scum.

it mostly was her not scum-hunting, her not understanding why I would be paranoid when she's duped me TWICE (not once, but twice) and one of those times, she has used emotion to do such.

granted, she is doing better now, but...

desp is gut and mostly based off his weird interactions with me.

[MC Maraca]

VOTE: Sakura

[Bert]

Vote: Sakura

[Bert]

That's Lynch -1

Claim please?

[Sakura Hana]

Claim please?

Nah I wont claim, live with the burden of it.

[MC Maraca]

Congradulations upon your taking the easy way out, sakura. It's a shame, if you'd learned to let your emotiuons stay home when you come and play, you could have been something great.

[Sakura Hana]

Nah, mafia isn't fun anymore for me and that's why im quitting. I wanted to at least try to do something here, but suddenly a wagon pops out of nowhere for me, no case no nothing, just votes popping out on the basis of "she's scum", so you won't get anything but anti town behavior and trolling for me until my lynch.

[MC Maraca]

Nah, mafia isn't fun anymore for me and that's why im quitting

Then claim not for yourself but out of respect for the fact that the other players here still enjoy it.

[Sakura Hana]

Why? After what i saw today i have no respect for anyone in this game.

And I'm heavily dissapointed on Nacho.

Just as I predicted... this is gonna be Xenologue all over again.

[BROseidon]

wtf is up with the activity this game and why are we wagoning Sak?

[Sakura Hana]

wtf is up with the activity this game and why are we wagoning Sak?

Because apparently "she's scum" is a good reason to lynch someone.

[Cephrir]

Isoed Sakura. She is a little scummy but also is not SC, so I'm opposed.

[BROseidon]

wtf is up with the activity this game and why are we wagoning Sak?

Because apparently "she's scum" is a good reason to lynch someone.

If you flip town I'll be all over it like white on rice.