NY 169: The EPIC XD Mafia Game of Greatness (Game Over)

[Bert]

Ffery I can't remember but do you like pieguy so far?

[Casso the King of Seals]

What does "townish, but against lynch due to nacho" mean?

It means I have a slightly town read on him. My scale sort of goes as follows;

Null (no read at all and/or admission of inability to read)
Nullish town (call it 'gut' town. Basically I don't really have a read on them, but something they've posted at some time, or maybe just a general positive feel towards the player makes them better than nothing)
Townish (I see enough activity from them to be willing to argue with others that they are probably town, I probably have one decent or a smattering of small tells)
Town (a solid read.)

The addendum of 'against lynch due to Nacho' is because, at thi stage of the game, regardless of read, I'd be willing to lynch a couple people I'm calling town. But in this particular instance Nacho has wailed enough that I think it would peeve him if I actually supported said push. Make sense?

Thor, can you explain your townreads on Generic and Llamarble. Why is Nacho against a Llamarble lynch?

Llamarble? If he's here as an alt you'll have to tell me which one.

As far as Generic goes, I really liked his push on Geist, and I haven't seen anything happen to make me want to revisit that read. The slot looks like it's scumhunting and isn't scared of poking bears - town read.

[Bert]

Thor,

Norlkaz is Llamarble.

[Tammy]

Hi!

I'm drunk...I have five minutes, and you know what I think?

Let's lynch mc Maraca.

Because holy fucking shit not only are they fake as shit, but they have 340 posts. On day one. They are drowning out the game in noise.

So everyone should join me on the protwn, let's do shit for town and let's get rid of bloating the game scum wagon.

EVERYONE WITH ME!!!!!!!

I don't really like using post count as a gauge for scumminess.

Like, the AP/me hydra backends games faster than they move when we're at full force, so we end up with like 30-50% more posts than anyone else+another like 60% in our QT.

The post count being a gauge for scumminess was partly in jest.

But, I'm a firm believer that noise helps scum more than it helps town. I believed it in Anything Goes when I was scum against the amount of posts the you and AP hydra put up, and I'm a firm believer in it as town. That much bloat gives scum a place to hide, and when scum have a place to hide that's bad for town. (I also wasn't lying about my belief in the good of utility lynches for town.)

[geists]

Ffery I can't remember but do you like pieguy so far?

F-16 sorta talked me down out of the rafters. And there was a post by pieguy refuting my read that I liked, too.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

ffery, do you think Sakura's smugness is the same type of smugness she displayed in that Newbie game regarding Cabd where he was lynched and she insisted that he was town?

Thor, Llamarble is Norlkaz.

[Bert]

What are utility lynches? What purposes do they serve for town?

[Casso the King of Seals]

Thor,

Norlkaz is Llamarble.

In that case it has nothing to do with Llama, the last discussion we had on the slot was when it was Brian.

[Casso the King of Seals]

What are utility lynches? What purposes do they serve for town?

To justify avoiding lynching lurkers.

[geists]

ffery, do you think Sakura's smugness is the same type of smugness she displayed in that Newbie game regarding Cabd where he was lynched and she insisted that he was town?

Thor, Llamarble is Norlkaz.

No.

There was an earnestness to her posts in that game pretty much from start to finish. I haven't seen that at all in this game. I wonder if it's one of the things she's intentionally changed in her game recently. Or if losing that is an unintended consequence of other changes she's made intentionally.

[Tammy]

Like I'd literally pay a virtual dollar for a vig shot on either mc maraca

Tell me more about how you'd shoot the mason.

And wouldn't blink.

Ok good, safe to ignore you for the rest of the game then since you obviously care more about "getting back at me" than you do playing the game properly.

LOL

What are utility lynches? What purposes do they serve for town?

To justify avoiding lynching lurkers.

Nope.

[Tammy]

Pie wtf.

I thought you were actually town.

How do you go back to making me think you're scum in a span of 2 pages.

Thank you for the avatar change though!

[Casso the King of Seals]

Because that's not what your initial response to the town case seemed like. And if that was the case, why aren't you telling me to get someone for you to sheep and instead are settling for the largest wagon?

Because I'm done sheeping you after Open 534.

One bad game means that I'm not worthy of being sheeped again?
Strange, considering I've proved myself plenty of times.

[Casso the King of Seals]

^^^ Can we make this dead at the earliest convenience?

Earliest convenience can be today if you convince GiF of it (which shouldn't take much work at all).

[Casso the King of Seals]

I'll get to this later but 2480 should explain to you why the case is shit.

I responded to everything in it. Please read the responses. I don't have time at this moment but don't let Mara spam her way into a tantrum lynch which is basically what this is. She made a dumb move. I called her out on it. She was unable to admit that she made a dumb move and is instead pushing a lynch to save face.

Stuffed is a decent wagon. Broseidon is giving me pings.

Stuffed is a horrible wagon. Why don't you read his ISO and go through his meta and tell me otherwise?

[Bert]

If it's so horrible, then what do you make of Ffery jumping on?

[Casso the King of Seals]

On further re-read, geists still hasn't done what i'd expect them to be doing by now, Also i'm retracting my townread on Casso and flipping it over. Nacho doesnt give easy townreads like that and it's bothering me like hell all.

Current reads:
Town: Maracabd, goodmorning, Bert, DOMO.
Leaning Town: Korean BBQ.
Leaning Scum: geists
Scumreads: Casso, SC.

Everyone else is null.

People always call me out for my early townreads because they don't understand how a townread so strong could be formed with so little. I don't think my townread on Stuffed Crust is weak; perhaps the Varsoon townread is weak but that's not what my read is based on. I don't understand why you are even holding this as a scumtell for me considering you see me townread players early in every game we've ever played together, scum and town.

[Casso the King of Seals]

If it's so horrible, then what do you make of Ffery jumping on?

Ffery was sheeping GiF-read of Varsoon, which is fair considering her read on GiF versus her read on me. Other reasons for voting them are pretty solidly bad.

[Bert]

Are you sure as heck that Falcon and Ffery are town

[Casso the King of Seals]

That was pretty awkward of you.
But no, you're not going to make me change my mind about either of you.

PEd: Glad someone agrees with me on GM.

Your reasoning for GM is because you think that GM has more of a town lurk instead of a scum lurk?
Seriously?

[Bert]

That was pretty awkward of you.
But no, you're not going to make me change my mind about either of you.

PEd: Glad someone agrees with me on GM.

Your reasoning for GM is because you think that GM has more of a town lurk instead of a scum lurk?
Seriously?

That was Bro's reasoning too.

[Casso the King of Seals]

Are you sure as heck that Falcon and Ffery are town

I am.
I'm also sure as heck that Stuffed Crust is town and the two top wagons suck quite a bit. Do you want to move your vote Sakura with us so the Day 1 lynch doesn't suck?

[Casso the King of Seals]

That was pretty awkward of you.
But no, you're not going to make me change my mind about either of you.

PEd: Glad someone agrees with me on GM.

Your reasoning for GM is because you think that GM has more of a town lurk instead of a scum lurk?
Seriously?

That was Bro's reasoning too.

Bro reasoning is fine because he has a public theory on town lurk versus scum lurk that he's talked about in reference to his own play many times. Sakura doesn't have that theory and isn't aware of that theory, so her taking that reasoning as her own is sketchy as hell.

[Casso the King of Seals]

Unvote: Sakura
Vote: Stuffed Crust

Pretty sure he's town.
Discuss.

If this turns into another NY 164 my haiku-writing will start a hell of a lot earlier this time.

I'm a little afraid to start writing haikus again.

[Bert]

Are you sure Sakura is scum? Ffery's answer of three reasons how Sakura could be town made me nervous

And to people who are like wth Bert you're interacting the most with the four people youve voted today,

My reads suck and I'm easily manipulated