NY 169: The EPIC XD Mafia Game of Greatness (Game Over)

[Empire]

Day 1, Votecount 65

Stuffed Crust (6)

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Cephrir, Desperado, Sakura Hana, KoreanBBQ, geists, pieguyn

F-16_Fighting_Falcon (6)

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BROseidon, Ser Arthur Dayne, DOMO, MC Maraca, Casso the King of Seals, Bert

Casso the King of Seals (2)

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zMuffinMan, goodmorning

MC Maraca (1)

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Tammy

goodmorning (1)

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Norlkaz

Not Voting (4)

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MafiaSSK, F-16_Fighting_Falcon, Stuffed Crust, Generic

With 20 alive, it takes 11 to lynch! Deadline is on December 26th at 3:45 PM EST or in (expired on 2013-12-26 16:44:27)

Mod Notes

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Varsoon head of Stuffed Crust V/LA until January 25th. Tammy is V/LA until the 23rd. F-16_Fighting_Falcon is V/LA until the 31st. goodmorning is V/LA until the 26th. DOMO is V/LA until the 27th. Generic is V/LA until the 26th.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

I was voting them and then I saw stuff like this:

I've got so much to catch up on. I dunno if I'm gonna really have any time until after christmas, this site malarky has really made it tough to keep involved. I feel like I'm voting blind. Can some tl;dr a case on casso? That's nacho and thor, right?

I'm not so sure I want to be killing off two strong players so early unless the case is compelling.

This would be a dream mislynch for scum if they're town.

Falcon you don't have the reputation that Casso's heads have (yet), so... or at least DOMO doesn't know you probably, hence the "dream mislynch" comment

that's why DOMO felt so weird initially, posts like this

You are saying DOMO's comment persuaded you to unvote Casso?

[Casso the King of Seals]

If Stuffed is scum, Casso is likely town.

Are you saying there's only one scum team?

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

Thor, what are your reads on everyone in the game?

[Casso the King of Seals]

Meh, disregard. looking at Mod's ruleset, pretty much that isn't a slip unless scum are incredibly dumb, and have daytalk, and Falcon then slipped on top of that because he decided to compound scum derptitude.

[Bert]

You are saying DOMO's comment persuaded you to unvote Casso?

It offered me little hope that a wagon on you would lead to anything, and then I saw GIF playing the "I'm gonna avoid sorting Nacho till Day 3" card...

[Bert]

*a wagon on Casso hydra* my typing is bad today

[pieguyn]

Though you are making wonderful strides towards providing "evidence that Pie is skimming and not reading". Huzzah.

well yeah I'm for the most part skimming. I'm on vacation and my time is p limited atm. I was thinking since you were asking what made SC more town that you had a scumread on him @_@

Bert, what do you think about lynching Casso instead?

I'd be very ok with this

[Casso the King of Seals]

Thor, what are your reads on everyone in the game?

Varied.


Eh, dunno, let's do this;

Thor's reads (not Nacho's...but feel free to treat them as Casso's because Nacho is being a sack)

1. Tammy - I read this as scum but apparently I read badly, basically I refuse to lynch this unless Nacho says 'go for it' though am bewildered by the meta.
2. geists (fferyllt + Natirasha) - Scum-ish.
4. MC Maraca (Cabd + Ms Marangal) - Null, I don't support a lynch ere though, call it town lean if you want.
5. F-16_Fighting_Falcon Townish.
6. Generic Townish to town, I'll go town at this stage.
7. Bert

roflcopter

Townish.
8. MafiaSSK

roflwaffles

I don't think I've even read a post from him yet - Null.
9. Stuffed Crust (Mac + Varsoon) - Town.
10. pieguyn

SonOfZeus

- Scumish
11. BROseidon - I lean town here, it's weak and is more of a 'lack of objectionable' than a 'presence of awesome'
12. Norlkaz

Brian Skies

- Townish, but against lynch due to Nacho.
13. KoreanBBQ (GuyInFreezer + Nero Cain) - I call him scum, and Nach seems to basically call him "town with waiting" or some gak - call it null as a whole, I'd lynch it.
14. goodmorning - I was actually sold on town here after seeing a bit of meta.
15. Sakura Hana - Scummish.
16. Ser Arthur Dayne

pitoli

- Eh, Null, I'll toss him some town points for declaring hatred of the game though.
17. zMuffinMan

talah

- Nach and I are debating here, but we'll say it's town still because Nacho's reasoning is kinda silly to me.
18. DOMO - I hate reading Domo, eh, call it nullish town.
19. Cephrir - I think he looks scummy as hell, but Nach has called it a no touch zone. I'd probably tow the company line, but if you want reasoning I'd have to mash together some Nacho blather for it.
20. Desperado - Scummy


I look forward to this going anywhere or doing anything for the game.
I'll hold my breath.

[Casso the King of Seals]

Though you are making wonderful strides towards providing "evidence that Pie is skimming and not reading". Huzzah.

well yeah I'm for the most part skimming. I'm on vacation and my time is p limited atm. I was thinking since you were asking what made SC more town that you had a scumread on him @_@

Did you try the crazy idea of looking at the comment in context? Y'know, considering that someone had just vote moved and I was asking why?
But good cover in at least being honest that you aren't reading gak - do you often do that as town? Like, if I went and looked I'd find other skimming games you did as town?

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

I am just going to say it plainly. You are wrong about me Bert. I am town. Placing your vote on any player is more productive and more likely to hit scum than placing your vote on me. I am town as fuck here. Anyone that has played with me will tell you so. I am not completely sure who is scum at this point and I am still trying to figure it out while waiting for Sakura and Thor to post. All I know is that I am town and lynching me will lead to a mislynch. It will set us back a town player. It will prevent me from providing analysis that could POE the scum to death. It will prevent me doing deep meta-dives into each player in the game and helping town win. Don't vote me. Vote somebody else. Preferable someone absolutely useless who likely won't win the game for town even if they are alive. I have posted a ton of analysis and reads. I have initiated productive discussion with several players and attempted to sort them through various means. I have looked through people's past games to see recurring patterns. I have backtracked on my reads and revised and reconsidered at every point. I had unvoted MC even before they claimed Mason. I am a productive and helpful member of the town and I strongly believe that leaving me alive will exponentially increase our chances of victory. I am not scum. It is as simple as that. Don't lynch me D1 based off of absolutely nothing. Work with me to take the scum down.

[pieguyn]

But good cover in at least being honest that you aren't reading gak - do you often do that as town? Like, if I went and looked I'd find other skimming games you did as town?

first sentence is a misrep. I never implied I was reading

as for the last part, I don't really care. I misinterpret stuff all the time and in this case the skimming contributed to that. and I get the feeling that a lot of my misinterpretations come from me not reading enough into posts, hence skimming

this wording is skeevy as fuck and it seems like you're twisting my words around 0.0

[Casso the King of Seals]

But good cover in at least being honest that you aren't reading gak - do you often do that as town? Like, if I went and looked I'd find other skimming games you did as town?

first sentence is a misrep. I never implied I was reading

You never implied you weren't either - that's why I asked you if you were or weren't.

as for the last part, I don't really care. I misinterpret stuff all the time and in this case the skimming contributed to that. and I get the feeling that a lot of my misinterpretations come from me not reading enough into posts, hence skimming

this wording is skeevy as Smurf and it seems like you're twisting my words around 0.0

...you're *agreeing* with me that you apparently didn't know what the heck you were talking about, and I was correct in being able to spot that you weren't reading and *I'm* scummy for...calling you out for it?

Tell me more, this scumhunting method is A-mah-zing!

[Casso the King of Seals]

You also didn't really answer my question.
Will I be able to find you skimming as town if I do a meta search?
It's a simple yes/no question. Really easy to do.

[MC Maraca]

If I unvote, will it piss thor off?

UNVOTE:

[Casso the King of Seals]

Yes.

[Casso the King of Seals]

<--- This is my angry face.

[MC Maraca]

Awesome. So why is a mason claim null to you, exactly?

[Casso the King of Seals]

I didn't even know there was a Mason claim. I've openly admitted that I haven't been reading gak for like fifty pages. Who are the masons?

[MC Maraca]

Me and your face. (Hint, read your own ISO)

[pieguyn]

it's skeevy as fuck bc

But good cover

saying it's a "cover" implies I'm lying about the amount of reading I'm doing. which is a misrep and now it contradicts this

You never implied you weren't either - that's why I asked you if you were or weren't.

bc it implies you were trying to find out how much reading I was doing, which if it was a "cover" you'd know already from my posts

Like, if I went and looked I'd find other skimming games you did as town?

this seemed p ambiguous like it was associating skimming as a whole with the above, when there are different meanings behind it (not reading enough into posts, literally skimming, misinterpreting a post etc.) which is why I think you're twisting my words around - you can probably come back later and change the meaning of a statement like this around to suit your needs. it also fits the idea that you're grasping at straws

It's a simple yes/no question. Really easy to do.

I answered it, but in yes/no terms: yes

[Casso the King of Seals]

Me and your face. (Hint, read your own ISO)

So you're a mason with Nacho?
Whoop-de-doo, clearly he and I have separate role PMs.
I don't care.

[MC Maraca]

I see nacho online, put his scumfuckery face online. He's neglected this game too long.

[Bert]

But falcon, lynching a lurker/useless one gives us little to no info to work off

[MC Maraca]

Because I'm thinking I want to vote you right now and mara isn't here to bitch at me for doing it so nacho gets to sweet talk me out of it. Or since I suppose you want any lynch today, yours will do?