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Post Post #575 (ISO) » Mon Dec 23, 2013 1:36 am

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In post 534, penguin_alien wrote:Smudger, my scum read on you remains partially due to the self-consciousness I'm seeing in your early posts, and it doesn't abate later on. There's a lot of AtE in the whole 'I played badly, I deserve this lynch for dumb play' spiel, and I don't trust that either.

kayneknowsbest, I asked about your interest in the DBK wagon because you wanted to know what happened to it. Wanted to know if that was you wanting the wagon to grow again or just wondering why it had disbanded.
Basically reasons for scumreading Smudger are self-consciousness and AtE, which is the type of reasoning that just hurts my insides. It also doesn't hurt that the scummiest people on the Smudger wagon were Kaze and penguin.
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Post Post #576 (ISO) » Mon Dec 23, 2013 1:37 am

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In post 574, Selkies wrote:Why did you nix the townbloc proposal?
I think artificial town blocks are dumb and useless.
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Post Post #577 (ISO) » Mon Dec 23, 2013 1:41 am

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~Vote Count XX
(rawr)

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Smudger (L-2)
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(The Purple Plague,)
Lady Lambdadelta, penguin_alien, Kazekirimaru, Plum, Garmr
penguin_alien (L-3)
~ Debonair Danny DiPietro, Natirasha,
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~ walked into a club

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Selkies, Does Bo Know, kanyeknowsbest


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Post Post #578 (ISO) » Mon Dec 23, 2013 1:42 am

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In post 576, The Purple Plague wrote:
In post 574, Selkies wrote:Why did you nix the townbloc proposal?
I think artificial town blocks are dumb and useless.
I agree, though I do wonder if the Chosen micro would have worked out any differently.

It wasn't obvious to me at first that Mara's townbloc was artificial. Mastin chose the experienced, "strong" players for his artificial bloc.
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Post Post #579 (ISO) » Mon Dec 23, 2013 1:42 am

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That vote count sucks.
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Post Post #580 (ISO) » Mon Dec 23, 2013 1:43 am

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In post 575, The Purple Plague wrote:
In post 534, penguin_alien wrote:Smudger, my scum read on you remains partially due to the self-consciousness I'm seeing in your early posts, and it doesn't abate later on. There's a lot of AtE in the whole 'I played badly, I deserve this lynch for dumb play' spiel, and I don't trust that either.

kayneknowsbest, I asked about your interest in the DBK wagon because you wanted to know what happened to it. Wanted to know if that was you wanting the wagon to grow again or just wondering why it had disbanded.
Basically reasons for scumreading Smudger are self-consciousness and AtE, which is the type of reasoning that just hurts my insides. It also doesn't hurt that the scummiest people on the Smudger wagon were Kaze and penguin.
This one resonates.
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Post Post #581 (ISO) » Mon Dec 23, 2013 1:44 am

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In post 578, Selkies wrote:
In post 576, The Purple Plague wrote:
In post 574, Selkies wrote:Why did you nix the townbloc proposal?
I think artificial town blocks are dumb and useless.
I agree, though I do wonder if the Chosen micro would have worked out any differently.

It wasn't obvious to me at first that Mara's townbloc was artificial. Mastin chose the experienced, "strong" players for his artificial bloc.
Mara took a similar approach but doesn't happen to be familiar with the two glaring omissions from that list.
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Post Post #582 (ISO) » Mon Dec 23, 2013 1:45 am

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In post 580, Selkies wrote:
In post 575, The Purple Plague wrote:
In post 534, penguin_alien wrote:Smudger, my scum read on you remains partially due to the self-consciousness I'm seeing in your early posts, and it doesn't abate later on. There's a lot of AtE in the whole 'I played badly, I deserve this lynch for dumb play' spiel, and I don't trust that either.

kayneknowsbest, I asked about your interest in the DBK wagon because you wanted to know what happened to it. Wanted to know if that was you wanting the wagon to grow again or just wondering why it had disbanded.
Basically reasons for scumreading Smudger are self-consciousness and AtE, which is the type of reasoning that just hurts my insides. It also doesn't hurt that the scummiest people on the Smudger wagon were Kaze and penguin.
This one resonates.
So push is awesome?
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Post Post #583 (ISO) » Mon Dec 23, 2013 1:53 am

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Push doesn't suck.
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Post Post #584 (ISO) » Mon Dec 23, 2013 2:09 am

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But isn't awesome? What more does this push need to make it awesome?
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Post Post #585 (ISO) » Mon Dec 23, 2013 2:14 am

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Needs synch and soak time. Both major wagons have been pretty hasty.
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Post Post #586 (ISO) » Mon Dec 23, 2013 2:16 am

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Who are your scumreads?
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Post Post #587 (ISO) » Mon Dec 23, 2013 3:44 am

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In post 495, Smudger wrote:I was going to ask him the question why? However the growth of the case against me, and my own dumb play, pushed it too the back of my mind as I had not noted it down,hence why I was mistaken for the vote. Thus when I saw the post above it bought it back to me.
I think you have a town sort of incompetence about you, that you'd have some level of guile if you were scum and I immensely dislike the structure and individuals on your wagon.

Conversely, very happy to see my PA wagon spring up as a viable alternative.
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Post Post #588 (ISO) » Mon Dec 23, 2013 5:38 am

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VOTE: penguin_allen

I liked Plague's explanation of why PA can be scum.
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Post Post #589 (ISO) » Mon Dec 23, 2013 5:58 am

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yeah im not really feeling the peng wagon. not at all and I don't really care for garmr's last posts either
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Post Post #590 (ISO) » Mon Dec 23, 2013 6:07 am

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In post 553, Garmr wrote:So we have two imposing wagons one built up slow and incredibly hard to lynch, while the one fast but diffused just as fast as it built. This is interesting how the two contrast.

After taking a second look my town reads are pretty much split onto both wagons while my scum reads are focused on Penguin alien.

I'm going to retract my statement about PA being the preferred lynch because even through 543.

Also

VOTE: Smudge

that's l-1
This is what I have a problem with.

Peng wasn't a slow wagon. It built up incredibly fast.
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Post Post #591 (ISO) » Mon Dec 23, 2013 6:21 am

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In post 586, The Purple Plague wrote:Who are your scumreads?
This is probably going to be a PoE game for me. :/

I do like your PA case. Will put our vote there if Orcinus agrees.

What are your thoughts about Kanye?
In post 590, walked into a club wrote:
In post 553, Garmr wrote:So we have two imposing wagons one built up slow and incredibly hard to lynch, while the one fast but diffused just as fast as it built. This is interesting how the two contrast.

After taking a second look my town reads are pretty much split onto both wagons while my scum reads are focused on Penguin alien.

I'm going to retract my statement about PA being the preferred lynch because even through 543.

Also

VOTE: Smudge

that's l-1
This is what I have a problem with.

Peng wasn't a slow wagon. It built up incredibly fast.
I thought he was saying the Smudger wagon was slow and hard to lynch?
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Post Post #592 (ISO) » Mon Dec 23, 2013 6:28 am

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Yes, but it's not difused. And the Peng BUILT FAST, but hasn't difused either. The two contrasting wagons are Smudger AND Penguin.

I don't care, it pinged. I don't like it.

Also I don't like Mara's part of the townblock thing without talking to Nacho first, but she did it to me in Kayne's game where she used part of our ability on D1.
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Post Post #593 (ISO) » Mon Dec 23, 2013 6:29 am

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However unless Mara just changed her playstyle, I'm not 100% townreading them due to that. I need to talk to Cabd first, but I don't like Smudger or TPP. Not really seeing scum-PA.
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Post Post #594 (ISO) » Mon Dec 23, 2013 6:32 am

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I guess I should get around to reading Garmr's scum game. I feel like he's been easy to spot as town in our prior games. He's changed things up in ways I think are pretty minor this game, but I kinda understand the motivations for that after our mini normal game.
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Post Post #595 (ISO) » Mon Dec 23, 2013 6:44 am

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In post 594, Selkies wrote:I guess I should get around to reading Garmr's scum game. I feel like he's been easy to spot as town in our prior games. He's changed things up in ways I think are pretty minor this game, but I kinda understand the motivations for that after our mini normal game.
I don't have much to go on w/ him. I played one game with him so far and I barely followed it while playing in it.
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Post Post #596 (ISO) » Mon Dec 23, 2013 6:45 am

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Was he scum in your prior game?
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Post Post #597 (ISO) » Mon Dec 23, 2013 7:06 am

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In post 596, Selkies wrote:Was he scum in your prior game?
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Post Post #598 (ISO) » Mon Dec 23, 2013 7:08 am

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Fery

whats your current read on DDD?
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Post Post #599 (ISO) » Mon Dec 23, 2013 7:19 am

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In post 598, walked into a club wrote:Fery

whats your current read on DDD?
maybe-town. I read one of his newbie games a couple weeks ago where he was scum. He was a serious lurksack in the game and talked about how lurking is one of his tells as scum (and that it works for him as scum) in the postgame. Being aware of that, and in fact using it intentionally as a scum tactic, means it's something he can modify in a player list where it won't work.

I think this is such a player list. So, his activity doesn't weigh as heavily as it could. But he's playing a pretty active game. I didn't like his garmr push. The PA vote looks better to me.

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