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You'd better not.Show"Logic is a systematic method to come to the wrong conclusion."
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Thesp was the lynch yesterday. There is no reason to postpone it any longer.
He's scum and we should lynch him today.Show"Logic is a systematic method to come to the wrong conclusion."
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Why? I was a sub-optimal lynch yesterday, and ChannelDelibird is a much better lynch and far more likely to be scum (as most people seem to indicate). I was essentially a compromise lynch to try and lynchMgm wrote:Thesp was the lynch yesterday. There is no reason to postpone it any longer.
He's scum and we should lynch him today.someonein light of a deadline (as far as I see). Why do you think I'm scum?"When playing a game, the goal is to win, but it is the goal that is important, not the winning." -Reiner Knizia
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No, it's not his behaviour that really bugs me, although it is slightly scummy. It's the claim.Thesp wrote:Do you interpret CDB's behavior similarly?
That follows logically from my belief that you are scum, does it not?Thesp wrote:Also, am I correct to ascertain that you believe my behavior towards ChannelDelibird is more likely to be insincere?Scumchat is awesome. Yarr!
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Just checking. I was wondering what you'd thought of CDB's behavior towards me as well.Cogito Ergo Sum wrote:
No, it's not his behaviour that really bugs me, although it is slightly scummy. It's the claim.Thesp wrote:Do you interpret CDB's behavior similarly?
That follows logically from my belief that you are scum, does it not?Thesp wrote:Also, am I correct to ascertain that you believe my behavior towards ChannelDelibird is more likely to be insincere?"When playing a game, the goal is to win, but it is the goal that is important, not the winning." -Reiner Knizia
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Mgm Mafia Scum
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The same reasons I did yesterday, plus the fact several people sabotaged the lynch, plus the fact I don't want to help the scum lynch another potential power role. If CDB's telling the truth, we are doing the scum's dirty work. If he's lying we'll find out and lynch him later. There's no point in rushing to lynch him today.Thesp wrote:
Why? I was a sub-optimal lynch yesterday, and ChannelDelibird is a much better lynch and far more likely to be scum (as most people seem to indicate). I was essentially a compromise lynch to try and lynchMgm wrote:Thesp was the lynch yesterday. There is no reason to postpone it any longer.
He's scum and we should lynch him today.someonein light of a deadline (as far as I see). Why do you think I'm scum?Show"Logic is a systematic method to come to the wrong conclusion."
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I think the deadline sabotaged the lynch.Mgm wrote:The same reasons I did yesterday, plus the fact several people sabotaged the lynch, plus the fact I don't want to help the scum lynch another potential power role."When playing a game, the goal is to win, but it is the goal that is important, not the winning." -Reiner Knizia
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Psh. I've read through their posts and I don't buy the Thesp/CDB link at all. I will be amazed if they are scum together. It reads nothing like bussing to me. Thesp has been constantly trying to bring things back to CDB, and only seemed to go for other people when a CDB lynch wasn't looking realistic.
And once again I find myself disliking Mgm's posts. I don't understand this, "Thesp was nearly lynched yesterday so we should finish the job now" stuff. I doesn't seem like a good mindset to me.Primpod 11:13 pm
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Mgm Mafia Scum
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Oh yeah. Lynching a claimed role blocker is much smarter </sarcasm>. If he's lying there's no hurry lynching the guy. If he's not, we've just saved ourselves a power role. (A surviving role blocker could, with a well aimed choice, stop his own killer). There's plenty of suspects. A claimed power role isn't the best choice.Patrick wrote:Psh. I've read through their posts and I don't buy the Thesp/CDB link at all. I will be amazed if they are scum together. It reads nothing like bussing to me. Thesp has been constantly trying to bring things back to CDB, and only seemed to go for other people when a CDB lynch wasn't looking realistic.
And once again I find myself disliking Mgm's posts. I don't understand this, "Thesp was nearly lynched yesterday so we should finish the job now" stuff. I doesn't seem like a good mindset to me.
That makes me wonder. Does the mod make the scum send out one particular killer - which requires a really specific block, or would a block on any scum do the job?
Enough people agreed to lynch Thesp to get to lynch -1 yesterday. What changed so much that we can't lynch him today?
Thesp: It was players that sabotaged the lynch not the deadline. We knew the deadline was coming. It wasn't a surprise.Show"Logic is a systematic method to come to the wrong conclusion."
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The claim is fairly scummy. How smart lynching him is depends on what damning evidence has been found. Some people seem certain that he is scum.MgM wrote: Oh yeah. Lynching a claimed role blocker is much smarter </sarcasm>. If he's lying there's no hurry lynching the guy. If he's not, we've just saved ourselves a power role. (A surviving role blocker could, with a well aimed choice, stop his own killer). There's plenty of suspects. A claimed power role isn't the best choice.
I imagine scum have to choose one member each time. If a block on any scum did the job, roleblocker would be too powerful.MgM wrote:That makes me wonder. Does the mod make the scum send out one particular killer - which requires a really specific block, or would a block on any scum do the job?Primpod 11:13 pm
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I agree with Patrick completely. There is no way at all that Thesp/CDB is a scumpair. I will also 100% guarantee you that CDB is scum. MGM is either really horribly wrong, or he's doing everything that he can to prevent his scumbuddy CDB from getting lynched (and if that's the case, it's just not going to work).
Patrick: You asked last page if MBL and/or I could explain on what CDB has said/done to warrant our certainty that he is scum. I really can't say that I know exactly what MBL found to be so suspect, but I made a handful of comments on CDB's words and actions during my extensive re-reads. I really don't feel like going through them again. I would like to hear what MBL finds specifically damning, and I'd like to check it against my own notes. It's highly probable that what he found is one of the things I hit on, but I still want to cross-reference it. Also, if it's the only thing that's going to convince some of the other townies that CDB is in fact the play, I think it might be better to have MBL reveal it anyway.
I'm still willing to bet that CDB/Zindaras is a scumpair, and if they were both to show up as goons, I would immediately press heavily for an MGM lynch. If one of them turns out to be a Godfather, I'm not yet sure where I'd look. But I am 100% certain that CDB is scum and like 75% certain that Zindaras is a scumbuddy of his.-
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I'm not convinced CDB is scum so I am doing everything I can to not get him lynched. Doesn't mean we're scumbuddies.
MBL, let's see this damning evidence. I doubt anything else is going to convince me.Show"Logic is a systematic method to come to the wrong conclusion."
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I'm not going to feed you people evidence without some proof you've worked for it. More important than lynching one scum is seeing how people react to a comment like mine, and I'm fascinated by the lackluster responses thus far. There hasn't been a SINGLE PBPA on CDB in the two weeks since my post indicating positivity of his scumminess. Yet I know you can't all be scum. Which means that some of you are lollygagging town waiting for my copness or sheer insightful genius to irrevocably confirm his scumminess for you.
It aint gonna happen. This is my last game on this site for a while and I'm pretty much completely sick of lazy town. You present your own thoughts and prove to me you give a $#!& about finding scum so I can differentiate you from scum. Thanks.
ps. I have a good idea who CDB's partners are. There are like 4 of you.
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If you believe him to be scum, why aren't you convincing people to lynch him? Scum are already on the wagon. They'll use you as scapegoat tomorrow.Show"Logic is a systematic method to come to the wrong conclusion."
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First you believe Ether and Thesp are scum, and about 20 posts later you changed tack entirely focussing on a claimed roleblocker, refusing to reveal what exactly it is was that made you change your mind. Don't you agree that makes you look at least a little bit suspicious?MrBuddyLee wrote:
Taking the hypothesis that either Ether and/or Thesp is scum, which I believe is significantly likely to be true, that would mean that their scumpartners would be feverishly working on alternate wagons. Does that mean everyone on alternate wagons is scum? No, duh, cause it takes as many townies as scum to lynch a townie at this point. But if people are softpedaling Ether and Thesp and shuffling feet towards CDB I'm watching them.Glork wrote:Explain this. Thesp and I have pushed CDB the most by far, and Fritz hopped aboard recently. A few other people have expressed passing suspicions of CDB, but nobody else has decided to ride the gravy train. You call Ether, CES, and Zindaras suspicions -- and none of them have expressed much suspicion of CDB (if any at all). Yet you think CDB's wagon is "suspiciously scum-driven"?
Just how many scums do you think are in this game?
The CDB wagon looks to me like people ignoring the elephants in the room to swat a bee. He also does not smell like a rose, but when Thesp and Fritz move on him like that--two people I saw potential alignment in yesterday--I'm wary.Show"Logic is a systematic method to come to the wrong conclusion."
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Glork wrote:
Explain this. Thesp and I have pushed CDB the most by far, and Fritz hopped aboard recently. A few other people have expressed passing suspicions of CDB, but nobody else has decided to ride the gravy train. You call Ether, CES, and Zindaras suspicions -- and none of them have expressed much suspicion of CDB (if any at all). Yet you think CDB's wagon is "suspiciously scum-driven"?MBL wrote:Ether doesn't look town at all to me, CES bothers me, Zindaras bothers me, and the CDB wagon looks suspiciously scum-driven so I'm reading the fine print on that one.
Just how many scums do you think are in this game?
And while we're at it. Just after Glork questioned the number of people you called suspcious, you add a few more by making this post. You've called just about everyone scummy. That to me looks like keeping your options open.MrBuddyLee wrote:Also, I think the cat's out of the bag on this one so I can spread the love on this bit of advice.
A godfather might shoot for high visibility on D1 depending on their normal playstyle. D2 however they'd almost certainly shoot for high profile in order to possibly pull investigations away from any of their scumpartners who might be in trouble. That behavior would be expected to possibly reverse or at least cease to be a priority when Adele claimed.
There are a few players who appear to fit this profile of ramping it up D2. See if you can spot them...Show"Logic is a systematic method to come to the wrong conclusion."
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*sigh*
Can we get moreon CDB and Ether? It's been six days since either of them posted. I know that lurking is their schtick, but this is really starting to make me angry.really sharp modprods
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Oh. In that case,CDB, DON'T EVER POST AGAIN!
Ether, you may continue to post until I decide whether you are scum.-
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Hi Glork.Glork wrote:Oh. In that case,CDB, DON'T EVER POST AGAIN!
Ether, you may continue to post until I decide whether you are scum.
Sorry, I've been reading but I'm having a really hard time with this game.
I don't see Mgmscum. I am still confident of Thespscum. Best guess for buddies are Ether and CES/Fritzler.#greenshirtthursdays-
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