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Post Post #2500 (ISO) » Thu Dec 19, 2013 9:07 am

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In post 2475, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
In post 2469, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:Also I'm very tempted to move my vote to F-16.
How about you
a) Actually do it
b) Explain why you find me scummy and try to dig deeper

Talking about your temptations isn't helping the game.
a) Literally anyone with a brain can foresee that your wagon won't kick off today so there is like no point to me wasting my vote there.
b) I'm actually quite content with watching your interactions with mc tyvm.
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Post Post #2501 (ISO) » Thu Dec 19, 2013 9:09 am

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I agree that this is not his town game. He was third party scum in the LOTR large theme we played in. In that game I remember him "fake hunting".
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Post Post #2502 (ISO) » Thu Dec 19, 2013 9:10 am

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In post 2480, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:I also have a very good reason to think that scum would try a discrediting tactic with Tammy since I've seen it happen before
It would be lovely if you can link a few games so I can see if you actually believe what you're talking about or not.
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Post Post #2503 (ISO) » Thu Dec 19, 2013 9:14 am

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In post 2502, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:
In post 2480, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:I also have a very good reason to think that scum would try a discrediting tactic with Tammy since I've seen it happen before
It would be lovely if you can link a few games so I can see if you actually believe what you're talking about or not.
You were there in Black Flag Nightless hydra'ing with me when Tierce spent an inordinate amount of time discrediting Tammy and making her look bad. Just read through it again.
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Post Post #2504 (ISO) » Thu Dec 19, 2013 9:21 am

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Okay

I'll go look at that again.

Anyway while you're here does the muffin scumread on casso look natural to you or not. I mean the way he just votes casso first with weak reasoning then strengths it after casso attack them. (Okay I'm probably not getting my point across but does it look like they're trying to make a camping vote look better by putting forth reasons after they're attacked so it looks like they're initial vote was stronger or not? <-- probably still confusing but w/e :|)
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Post Post #2505 (ISO) » Thu Dec 19, 2013 9:22 am

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Post Post #2506 (ISO) » Thu Dec 19, 2013 9:22 am

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Consider this a prod dodge, 17 pages to catch up on tonight for me...
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Post Post #2507 (ISO) » Thu Dec 19, 2013 9:25 am

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@bert,

Usually you open tunnelling one action in which you suck up to nacho and hand him your vote.

You know that's the basis of every scum read I have ever given you (a grand total of 2). This game you came in, kept it I commited but placed a thought on several things goog on at the time.

That's genuine town play given you are feeling your way through an already long day phase.

If I'm wrong it will become apparent as time goes on. But I'm making judgements right now to narrow down my voting options.
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Post Post #2508 (ISO) » Thu Dec 19, 2013 9:26 am

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*kept it uncommited
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Post Post #2509 (ISO) » Thu Dec 19, 2013 9:45 am

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OK makes sense I guess

well yeah I didn't suck up to nacho this game because he's really scummy actually

nothing there that tempts me to reach out to him or anything
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Post Post #2510 (ISO) » Thu Dec 19, 2013 9:50 am

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In post 2409, Casso the King of Seals wrote:
In post 2277, geists wrote:
In post 2275, BROseidon wrote:Someone answer my question about what the relevant content for me to read over the past 30ish pages is.
You have recent scumteam experience with zmuffin. What do you think of his play?

His apathy is coming off town to me, if anything. :/
Why is that? Why do you think scumMuffin wouldnt be likely to pull the apathetic card?
Do you know of any games where scum-zmuffin was apathetic? The thing about his apathy that doesn't feel scummy to me is that he's unapologetic about it.

So's Desp.

:/

I'm starting to hate this game.
I can see where he wouldn't have direction this game, but I have trouble seeing him regard the game way that Thor currently is because he has the tendency to pick up on the cooler things going on.
Yes he does. The sardonic wit is missing and I'm not laughing out loud at the occasional post.
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Post Post #2511 (ISO) » Thu Dec 19, 2013 9:51 am

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In post 2312, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:You should probably ask someone like someone like Tammy who has a 100% accuracy rate in reading me. On the plus side, I can say in endgame that I can read you but you can't read me.
I want to see if Tammy responds to this...
In post 2317, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:^ This is junk. Yeah, I was waiting to see if other people would support the vote before I voted you. It isn't scummy, it is null. Town test to see whether a lynch is viable and so does scum. It isn't alignment indicative.
What is the town motivation in backing off a push b/c it's unpopular?
In post 2323, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:Well, you are in luck because I am town. But I don't know who the scum are.
If F-16 is scum this might be multiball. The phrasing here is weird and points to that.
In post 2331, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:Okay, Tammy is obvtown. Pieguyn is town. Stuffed are town (I think). Not sure about Arthur but Tammy reads him as town so I am not too worried. MC was annoying and I scumnread them for a while but I really don't have a read on them now that I think about it. Geists are town but don't sheep ffery because she is wrong about me. Nacho and I made a peace treaty to not nightkill each other if one of us is scum. I don't have a proper read on his and Thor's hydra. Brian is acting much like he did in Mentor and Mentee. DOMO looks town. KBBQ are also annoying and not engaging although I don't think it is alignment indicative. They pretty much scumread Stuffed and assume that if they were wrong, I would be scum for townreading them aka "whiteknighting." Cephrir looks town. I don't like the muffin wagon either.
Re this and your previous post: Why only who's town? Why not talk about scumreads?
In post 2332, Bert wrote:also is it just me or is Broseidon's ISO pretty underwhelming...it's almost like Empire lurking as scum or something and doing as little as possible
Combination of V/LA last weekend, and the rate at which this game is moving relative to other games (I tend to post more in games where I'm caught up, and let games where I'm behind get further behind).

Haven't full ISO'd muffin, but his posting from my catchup point looks town.
In post 2429, Desperado wrote:
In post 2426, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:Who is pick for a scumteam?
stuffed crust, maraca, geists, domo, dayne
I feel like Cephrir makes a lot of sense with DOMO-scum, although I guess it could just be him getting hard-duped into moving in lockstep with the scumteam again...
In post 2434, Desperado wrote:it isn't a bus until one of them is dead
DOMO tried to bus his entire scumteam sans Cabd in NY165 from early day 1.

Fuck it Desp's town and less lost than I am right now. Sheeping Desp time.

Hey Desp who do I vote?
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Post Post #2512 (ISO) » Thu Dec 19, 2013 9:52 am

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In post 2415, zMuffinMan wrote:
casso wrote:If I'm not trying to sort you, what the hell are we doing now?
wow. you are scum, aren't you?
What are you doing then?
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Post Post #2513 (ISO) » Thu Dec 19, 2013 9:54 am

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In post 2424, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:Yeah, but I wasn't aware of the extent of your scumhunting ability then. Town-me got pretty annoyed when Generic kept accusing me of buddying BBMolla because I townread him really hard to the point where I thought he was less likely scum than the claimed cop or confirmed town. I am talking mostly about me. I've had a couple of other very similar bad experiences like that in Micro 252 and Micro 254.
You didn't meta him during that game?
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Post Post #2514 (ISO) » Thu Dec 19, 2013 9:56 am

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This must be lady ffery
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Post Post #2515 (ISO) » Thu Dec 19, 2013 10:00 am

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What I meant to say is, Ffery or Nat's wish to lynch under 100 pages = mission failed. :D

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Post Post #2516 (ISO) » Thu Dec 19, 2013 10:03 am

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In post 2425, Desperado wrote:you think sc is town right?

you should reconsider. if i'm even remotely accurate right now the rest of the scum won't even be on the table today
In post 2429, Desperado wrote:
In post 2426, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:Who is pick for a scumteam?
stuffed crust, maraca, geists, domo, dayne
You don't think any of the lurkers are scum?
In post 2431, MC Maraca wrote:I've seen enough.

and I've thought this over.

VOTE: f16

if He does so happen to be town, I'm probably already in alot of trouble

My personal townlist is already big enough so that, I can somewhat start doing PoE. I don't see why you can't do that, either
Why does F-16 being town put you in a lot of trouble.
In post 2434, Desperado wrote:
In post 2430, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:You think Stuffed and DOMO could be on a scumteam together? They argued pretty hard and it is unlikely it is a bus. Why Giests and Dayne? Your last post on Maraca was over a thousand posts ago? Have recent posts influenced your thoughts on them?

So, you said you were trying something new. Your playstyle does seem different than BB:HoH. What is the reason for this?

it isn't a bus until one of them is dead

geists is a secret

dayne's pieguy push started bad and got progressively worse

of course recent posts have influenced my thoughts. so did your interpretation of cabd's gambit.

no reason that i could articulate, it came organically out of me falling behind
:/

I'm mad that now you are engaged, we haven't had a chance to talk.

p-edit Bert that was Nati.
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Post Post #2517 (ISO) » Thu Dec 19, 2013 10:08 am

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In post 2513, geists wrote:
In post 2424, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:Yeah, but I wasn't aware of the extent of your scumhunting ability then. Town-me got pretty annoyed when Generic kept accusing me of buddying BBMolla because I townread him really hard to the point where I thought he was less likely scum than the claimed cop or confirmed town. I am talking mostly about me. I've had a couple of other very similar bad experiences like that in Micro 252 and Micro 254.
You didn't meta him during that game?
Who are you talking about and which game?
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Post Post #2518 (ISO) » Thu Dec 19, 2013 10:13 am

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In post 2453, pieguyn wrote:
@geists:
why the unvote on Cephrir?
The frustration over the votes he was getting didn't seem like scum-Ceph to me at all. In someone else, maybe that would be scummy.
also, can you explain Casso town plz
I'm not at Casso-town. I'm in the null/maybe town range. The reasons why have to do with Nacho's replies to my accusations and questions. Scum-Nacho is very good at saying what I want to hear these days, but there's some tone things about it when he's scum that I'm starting to learn. So I think, anyway.

I'm really hoping this territory has some charts pretty soon.

p-edit @F-16 I'm talking about Desp and the game where you didn't know his scumhunting abilities? Big Brother I think you said.
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Post Post #2519 (ISO) » Thu Dec 19, 2013 10:14 am

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In post 2516, geists wrote:I'm mad that now you are engaged, we haven't had a chance to talk.
Disappointed I could see, but "Mad?" Heh, seems like overdoing it a bit there.
In post 2511, BROseidon wrote:If F-16 is scum this might be multiball. The phrasing here is weird and points to that.
Yeah, phrasing does feel weird. Also explains why I felt weird when Falcon told me when I was catching up a few days ago, that he promised Nacho that if they are opposing factions, they would not kill each other.
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Post Post #2520 (ISO) » Thu Dec 19, 2013 10:15 am

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In post 2331, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:Nacho and I made a peace treaty to not nightkill each other if one of us is scum.
oh never mind, scratch what I just said.
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Post Post #2521 (ISO) » Thu Dec 19, 2013 10:16 am

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@ Bert and BRO, what about the phrasing is wierd?
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Post Post #2522 (ISO) » Thu Dec 19, 2013 10:16 am

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@ bro: vote maraca

@ geists: what is the full lurker list and who do you think is scum from it?
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Post Post #2523 (ISO) » Thu Dec 19, 2013 10:18 am

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I know it felt weird because I remember when I first skimmed that in real time a while back, that I automatically had memories of first playing with Ffery in 1415 where she said "you are in luck, I'm town!"

I don't hear that being expressed in that way very often, so it's just weird to come from you.
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Post Post #2524 (ISO) » Thu Dec 19, 2013 10:19 am

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@F16: You liar tell when stating that you're town but then don't liar tell that you don't know who scum are.

@Desp: What's the MC case? I've been townreading them all game and I get back to a bunch of "MC is scum" posts.

VOTE: MC

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