NY 168: (GAME OVER) The Mod is Dead, Fire and Ice Edition

[ElectricSavages]

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Dry - Fit[8]

-Desperado, Matias, Yiley, mastin2, T S O, OhGodMyLife, PeregrineV, JKLM

JKLM [3]

- Bulbazak, Garmr, Toomai

Toomai [2]

- Maxous, Dry-fit

Yunichikawowwow [1]

- Slandaar

Bulbazak [1]

- ArcAngel9

Desperado [1]

- aptil

Maxous [1]

- Yunichikawowwow

Not Voting [2]

- Antihero, evilpacman18,

With 19 alive, it takes

10[/i]

votes to lynch.

Deadline is on the 23^rd of December 2013 at 10am GMT ((expired on 2013-12-23 10:00:00))

Prodding evilpacman18, replacing ArcAngel9.

V/LA

Anti-Hero - 14^th Dec
JacobSavage - 11^th to 16^th Dec
Matias - 15^th Dec

[evilpacman18]

I was down to lynch Dry-fit when the wagon started but 269 makes him seem town to me. He's not too concerned with his own survival to still scumhunt.

Anyway I'm caught up finally.

Do you think his lack of defense is related in any way to the fact he doesn't have one?

Do you think not having a defense is scummy?

A defense, or a good offense. My wagon sucks because____________. These are the scum on my wagon because ________________. Let's talk about my reads which are ___________________ because _____________________.

Stuff like that.

That's kind of there though. At least the "Let's talk about my reads" stuff, which I think it's very town when people don't lose this part of their posts even after the pressure on them is great.

Oh God, you didn't catch his softclaim?

No and isn't the point of softclaiming that any town who notices specifically doesn't react by saying "hey look at that softclaim"?

Well 365 is horrible and makes me regret defending Dry-fit
Almost reflex voted Slandaar for 367 and I hardly ever have the urge to reactively vote.
Just checked his iso: Slandaar is avoiding posting anything by complaining about other peoples' posts. JKLM can wait

vote: Slandaar

They're probably scum buddies though, I could see Slandaar being the sneaky fool that RVS votes his buddy. Especially considering the "eagerness" with which he started the game.
And then 372: "someone get off now" as if someone being put to L-1 is a horrible thing, meanwhile ignoring anyone who's participated in his getting to L-1.
Slandaar's been around, Slandaar's been posting, but he hasn't a problem with the rise of this wagon until he gets the chance to pipe in and white knight: "LOOK AT WHAT A TOWN HERO I AM, I AM BEING CAUTIOUS ABOUT A LYNCH"

[Bulbazak]

Pacman, Slandaar is town. JKLM is not.

[evilpacman18]

either is fine.

vote: JKLM

[Garmr]

To reinforce my point that Jklm is scum Purple monkey dishwasher.

[Matias]

I suck at self motivating right now so I'm just gonna blatantly sheep Mastin until further notice.

Unvote, Vote: Dry-fit

On my V/LA still, but this is horrible.

[evilpacman18]

Yeah. Unfortunately it's not scumposting.

[JKLM]

Bulba you are tragically bad at reading me.

Yeah I'm always useless day 1 so I can't blame you all too much for voting me

I've really got nothing much to say. I hate day 1.

[Garmr]

You avoided my questions and case on you twice. Add this to the list of scummy things you have done Jklm.

[evilpacman18]

Bulba you are tragically bad at reading me.

Yeah I'm always useless day 1 so I can't blame you all too much for voting me

I've really got nothing much to say. I hate day 1.

Meta defense and AtE, solid.

[Maxous]

no prodding for me >____>

[Slandaar]

What exactly am I avoiding posting my opinion on Pacman?

[OhGodMyLife]

I think toomai and dry-fit might be partners. How many scum should be on each team in a 19 person game? Three most likely, so bussing is going to be a much harder pill to swallow than normal. Toomai was parked on the dry-fit wagon since the page 11 votecount (and it stayed stalled til now) but as soon as it actually catches fire he immediately bails on it to.. vote someone for voting dry-fit?

[Toomai]

Toomai was parked on the dry-fit wagon since the page 11 votecount (and it stayed stalled til now) but as soon as it actually catches fire he immediately bails on it to.. vote someone for voting dry-fit?

Is there a problem with this? I didn't like the manner in which the vote was placed and having someone at L-1 is not necessary at this point.

[OhGodMyLife]

Why were you voting dry-fit if you weren't willing to see him lynched? I know I have confirmation bias because I already believe my own theory but come on now. Toomai/dry scum team. Opposing scum team adjust your aim accordingly.

[Desperado]

and having someone at L-1 is not necessary at this point.

Why not?

[Dry-fit]

I think toomai and dry-fit might be partners. How many scum should be on each team in a 19 person game? Three most likely, so bussing is going to be a much harder pill to swallow than normal. Toomai was parked on the dry-fit wagon since the page 11 votecount (and it stayed stalled til now) but as soon as it actually catches fire he immediately bails on it to.. vote someone for voting dry-fit?

Oh so you have actual reasons for thinking I'm scum now? I'd like to know what they are. OGML is probably town though.

I'll take a look at the JKLM case tomorrow. He's a player that's been under my radar.

[PeregrineV]

Saturday checkin- vote good.

[Bulbazak]

I know I have confirmation bias because I already believe my own theory but come on now. Toomai/dry scum team. Opposing scum team adjust your aim accordingly.

You're overcompensating in your attempt to look townie...

[Toomai]

Why were you voting dry-fit if you weren't willing to see him lynched?

and having someone at L-1 is not necessary at this point.

Why not?

I did and still do think Dry-fit is a good lynch. But I think the deadline's far enough away that we have time to generate additional wagons for analysis later.

[PeregrineV]

I did and still do think Dry-fit is a good lynch. But I think the deadline's far enough away that we have time to generate additional wagons for analysis later.

+1

But who?

And once we massage the wagon, will it get back to Dry-fit if the new wagon isn;t better?

[mastin2]

Get ready. He's scum this game.

Ah, Bulbazak.

Pull this stunt as town, shame on you.

Pull this stunt as scum and get away with it, shame on me.

Here's a notice for you: Sheeping mastin is a very bad idea this game. He's offered very few reads, hasn't responded to any of the things I've addressed to him even though I'm apparently his top priority, and after his catchup offers nothing but shitty wagon analysis.

A part of me wonders if Dry-fit and Bulbazak are on the scumteam and the scumteams have daytalk, with them legitimately thinking I'm scum. That part of me, however, is called "my ego", and for the sake of retaining some semblance of humbleness, I'm forced to nix that theory.

I suck at self motivating right now so I'm just gonna blatantly sheep Mastin until further notice.

Much as I appreciate (and actually quite love) people sheeping me, I don't remember you having this much respect for my abilities as town. So, spill the beans; what gives?

But for really, what's your opinion on Dry-fit and his wagon?

What's YOURS?

I asked first.

*points to vote*
Your turn.

L-1
Someone get off now.
Mastin I am looking at you.

You're quite correct, the L-1 wagon IS concerning, but aside from maaaaaaybe-Desp (but not really), maybe-Matias, somewhat-OGML, and PeregrineV, there aren't any names on it I can realistically see as being scum. And even then, most of those names aren't scumreads. The wagon looks town-driven.

As an aside--the JKLM feels like a counterwagon on town to a dominant wagon on scum (Dry-fit).

[mastin2]

Also, I ran through my iso looking for coherent scumreads. This is what I came up with:

-Maxous scum. (Fire?)
-Bulbazak scum?
{Slandaar, Desperado, Bulbazak, Dry-Fit, Yiley, PeregrineV}
Figures of interest, Yunichika wagon.

-Aptil scum with Bulbazak, or town.
-Desp null-townish.
-Matias scum.
-Antihero scum.
-Slandaar scum?
-Dry-fit strongly scum.
-Yiley town?

I need to run through it again, on the opposite side of things. (Townreads.) And look at the remainder. Also, these reads might need revision, depending on my Slandaar and Matias reads. (And to some extent, Bulbazak.) Oh, and excluded is the PV read, which is nullish-scum, better read pending. Also excluded is my recent concern for OGML, though he's probably nullish-town. (I'm not sure, yet.)

Basically, while I have an idea of where I'm going, nothing's solidified at all. At some moments, I feel like I've got way too damn many scumreads. At other times, far too few. I can't flip the switch 'til I get Goldi-locked on.

[Bulbazak]

Mastin, don't you dare pull this patronizing crap on me. Your posts feel artificial as crap.

[Garmr]

Get ready. He's scum this game.

Ah, Bulbazak.

Pull this stunt as town, shame on you.

Pull this stunt as scum and get away with it, shame on me.

Here's a notice for you: Sheeping mastin is a very bad idea this game. He's offered very few reads, hasn't responded to any of the things I've addressed to him even though I'm apparently his top priority, and after his catchup offers nothing but shitty wagon analysis.

A part of me wonders if Dry-fit and Bulbazak are on the scumteam and the scumteams have daytalk, with them legitimately thinking I'm scum. That part of me, however, is called "my ego", and for the sake of retaining some semblance of humbleness, I'm forced to nix that theory.

I suck at self motivating right now so I'm just gonna blatantly sheep Mastin until further notice.

Much as I appreciate (and actually quite love) people sheeping me, I don't remember you having this much respect for my abilities as town. So, spill the beans; what gives?

But for really, what's your opinion on Dry-fit and his wagon?

What's YOURS?

I asked first.

*points to vote*
Your turn.

L-1
Someone get off now.
Mastin I am looking at you.

You're quite correct, the L-1 wagon IS concerning, but aside from maaaaaaybe-Desp (but not really), maybe-Matias, somewhat-OGML, and PeregrineV, there aren't any names on it I can realistically see as being scum. And even then, most of those names aren't scumreads. The wagon looks town-driven.

As an aside--

the JKLM feels like a counterwagon on town to a dominant wagon on scum

(Dry-fit).

Your still thinking in single scum games and this is why you fail like hell.

Lets look at a list of what dry-fit has done scummy compared to JKLM.
Dryfit-deflecting,ate,Only gives opions on events related to him.

Jklm-
1.Ignoring posts all together,A bad sheeped reason to vote dry fit
2.Also done a ate(Straight after voting someone for a ate)
3.Wants other people to do the scum hunting for him
4.Does a hypocritical vote on to the largest wagon at the time which he made a counter wagon for
5.Also voting for the largest wagons with out contributing anything to them
6.Has had numerous people defend him for his supposed townish actions.
7.JKLM his in a single scum hunting mind set.
8.JKLM is not playing to his town meta where he doesn't sheep others and makes decisions of his own accord.


Tell me how this guy is a town wagon again.