Mini 1524: Olympian Gods Mafia - Game Over

Wisdom · Post Post #2175 (ISO) » Sat Dec 14, 2013 9:23 am

In post 2169, Whiskers wrote:what's to say she's not a scum QT Cop

And scum need a QT Cop because..?

Desperado · Post Post #2176 (ISO) » Sat Dec 14, 2013 9:25 am

Yeah, even I'm not buying that. Either Mala is legit or she made it up.

Wisdom · Post Post #2177 (ISO) » Sat Dec 14, 2013 9:25 am

In post 2169, Whiskers wrote:Also, this is speculation on your part. We all kind of patted you on the back for it, but nobody is certain how true it is.

A virgin is immune to being neighborized.
The goddess of love checks for neighborhoods.
All three neighborizers are male gods.
The crippled male god is a limited neighborizer.

With all that, you doubt the flavor is like I described?

Whiskers · Post Post #2178 (ISO) » Sat Dec 14, 2013 9:27 am

In post 2175, Wisdom wrote:
In post 2169, Whiskers wrote:what's to say she's not a scum QT Cop
And scum need a QT Cop because..?

And town need a QT Cop because...?

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #2179 (ISO) » Sat Dec 14, 2013 9:29 am

In post 2160, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 2102, Whiskers wrote:
In post 2097, Wisdom wrote:Btw you technically lied about your claim. Now that there are 2 night neighborizers and your claim is the odd one out, you switched to "no I'm a night one too I just create daytalk". Why didn't you clarify that at first?
Sorry, I didn't know I switched.

When I claimed, being a Day-Neighborizer. I guess I didn't go into specifics beyond that.
But, when I checked my role PM recently, I saw stuff that I hadn't really processed before, or forgot about.
Whether or not you want to discount this, my role
still
makes the least sense amidst all these claims-- with regards to setup, at least.
So, what is your full claim again? You neighborize pregame and it takes effect N1? Who did you neighborize?

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #2180 (ISO) » Sat Dec 14, 2013 9:29 am

In post 2178, Whiskers wrote:
In post 2175, Wisdom wrote:
In post 2169, Whiskers wrote:what's to say she's not a scum QT Cop
And scum need a QT Cop because..?
And town need a QT Cop because...?

Because it can occasionally give information as to the alignments of players.

Wisdom · Post Post #2181 (ISO) » Sat Dec 14, 2013 9:30 am

In post 2178, Whiskers wrote:
In post 2175, Wisdom wrote:
In post 2169, Whiskers wrote:what's to say she's not a scum QT Cop
And scum need a QT Cop because..?
And town need a QT Cop because...?

Because scum have a QT and she can catch them..?

Desperado · Post Post #2182 (ISO) » Sat Dec 14, 2013 9:30 am

In post 2178, Whiskers wrote:And town need a QT Cop because...?

One of the neighborizers is scum and mala can catch them in a lie. Or find someone with a QT who hasn't been neighborized.

Like, seriously?

Whiskers · Post Post #2183 (ISO) » Sat Dec 14, 2013 9:34 am

In post 2180, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 2178, Whiskers wrote:
In post 2175, Wisdom wrote:
In post 2169, Whiskers wrote:what's to say she's not a scum QT Cop
And scum need a QT Cop because..?
And town need a QT Cop because...?
Because it can occasionally give information as to the alignments of players.

Or, it can give scum information on who is talking to each other. Find power roles. Suggest scumpairs during the Day, based on what you've learned.
I just remember a bunch of people saying, "But, but, then the whole town would be neighborized! They

can't

all be town!"
And then, Neighborizing would be negative utility, as Mala can't "Cop" as effectively.
Except, assuming no massclaim Day 1, people would already have Neighborized, right? Actually, I may be wrong here, Idr when everybody else's delays... happen.
ALSO,

with

our massclaim, there's no need to suss out powerroles-- at least, not neighborizers.

Malakittens · Post Post #2184 (ISO) » Sat Dec 14, 2013 9:35 am

In post 2165, Wisdom wrote:And that's what Mala commented on. I'm not mistaken at all.

No. It wasn't not at all.

Whiskers · Post Post #2185 (ISO) » Sat Dec 14, 2013 9:36 am

In post 2182, Desperado wrote:
In post 2178, Whiskers wrote:And town need a QT Cop because...?
One of the neighborizers is scum and mala can catch them in a lie. Or find someone with a QT who hasn't been neighborized.

Like, seriously?

Er.
How would knowing if they have a QT help Mala, or any of us, know if they're scum, if they're

also

a neighborizer?
I could see you using the power to clear people-- and if it were a scum role, you have the opportunity to clear your scum-mates.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #2186 (ISO) » Sat Dec 14, 2013 9:38 am

In post 2179, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 2160, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 2102, Whiskers wrote:
In post 2097, Wisdom wrote:Btw you technically lied about your claim. Now that there are 2 night neighborizers and your claim is the odd one out, you switched to "no I'm a night one too I just create daytalk". Why didn't you clarify that at first?
Sorry, I didn't know I switched.

When I claimed, being a Day-Neighborizer. I guess I didn't go into specifics beyond that.
But, when I checked my role PM recently, I saw stuff that I hadn't really processed before, or forgot about.
Whether or not you want to discount this, my role
still
makes the least sense amidst all these claims-- with regards to setup, at least.
So, what is your full claim again? You neighborize pregame and it takes effect N1? Who did you neighborize?

Wisdom · Post Post #2187 (ISO) » Sat Dec 14, 2013 9:38 am

In post 2184, Malakittens wrote:
In post 2165, Wisdom wrote:And that's what Mala commented on. I'm not mistaken at all.
No. It wasn't not at all.

?

Your "don't do it yet" wasn't for ooba's "neighborize me if you still have your shot"? I'm quite sure you had quoted it.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #2188 (ISO) » Sat Dec 14, 2013 9:39 am

The only power roles that QT cops can find are neighborizers, and they can't even find those very well. This would be the most useless rolecop in the entire world and I have no idea how you could use it to clear partners.

Wisdom · Post Post #2189 (ISO) » Sat Dec 14, 2013 9:39 am

Whiskers that makes no sense.
It's not a scum role. That's even more ridiculous than "she is fake-claiming", and I consider the latter ridiculous enough as it is.

Malakittens · Post Post #2190 (ISO) » Sat Dec 14, 2013 9:40 am

In post 2184, Malakittens wrote:
In post 2165, Wisdom wrote:And that's what Mala commented on. I'm not mistaken at all.
No. It wasn't not at all.

Wanted to see if I could get whiskers to hold off doing it or neighboriZe me. That was prior to Fitz claiming and now I'm not so sure about it.

Gotta go. Luckily I think my real day off is tommorow therefore I can focus on games!

Wisdom · Post Post #2191 (ISO) » Sat Dec 14, 2013 9:43 am

Yeah, that's what I said.
I think you just misunderstood what I said now.

Whiskers · Post Post #2192 (ISO) » Sat Dec 14, 2013 9:44 am

In post 2188, Nachomamma8 wrote:The only power roles that QT cops can find are neighborizers, and they can't even find those very well. This would be the most useless rolecop in the entire world and I have no idea how you could use it to clear partners.

Lovers, Masons, alternate scumteam,
You'd use it to clear partners by doing what mala is doing, and saying, "Ah, Whiskers is clean! No QTs there."

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #2193 (ISO) » Sat Dec 14, 2013 9:45 am

I don't think lovers or masons or alternate scumteams exist.

Whiskers · Post Post #2194 (ISO) » Sat Dec 14, 2013 9:46 am

In post 2186, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 2179, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 2160, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 2102, Whiskers wrote:
In post 2097, Wisdom wrote:Btw you technically lied about your claim. Now that there are 2 night neighborizers and your claim is the odd one out, you switched to "no I'm a night one too I just create daytalk". Why didn't you clarify that at first?
Sorry, I didn't know I switched.

When I claimed, being a Day-Neighborizer. I guess I didn't go into specifics beyond that.
But, when I checked my role PM recently, I saw stuff that I hadn't really processed before, or forgot about.
Whether or not you want to discount this, my role
still
makes the least sense amidst all these claims-- with regards to setup, at least.
So, what is your full claim again? You neighborize pregame and it takes effect N1? Who did you neighborize?

No, this,

In post 2108, havingfitz wrote:Whiskers...do you neighborize N1 and get to talk D2?

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #2195 (ISO) » Sat Dec 14, 2013 9:48 am

In post 2193, Nachomamma8 wrote:I don't think lovers or masons or alternate scumteams exist.

I've seen multiball in a mini once and it pissed me off, don't think we have to worry about that here but even if that's the case... Finding other scum isn't a larger advantage to scum than finding scum is to town.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #2196 (ISO) » Sat Dec 14, 2013 9:49 am

Don't think lovers are a thing this game thanks to all the neighborizers; the reason for giving the neighborizers the choice to neighborizer seems geared to give them the chance not to give mala false positives. Masons probably don't exist for similar reasons.

Whiskers · Post Post #2197 (ISO) » Sat Dec 14, 2013 9:51 am

In post 2193, Nachomamma8 wrote:I don't think lovers or masons or alternate scumteams exist.

Perhaps not, but we do have a ton of neighborizers. So yeah, let's say that's all scum-QTCop can detect.

Sigh. idk. Maybe the people being neighborized would have a particular value for you to kill them. Maybe you really do become Lovers after you Neighborize-- except I guess one guy has two shots. Maybe there was no specific purpose in designing the role into the game, as trying to outguess your players almost never works and railroading them makes them feel dissatisfied. Maybe I'm wrong.
It was just an idea that I had-- because really. A Town QT Cop is not really any stronger or weaker than a Scum QT Cop. They're

both

useless.

Nachomamma8 wrote:Don't think lovers are a thing this game thanks to all the neighborizers; the reason for giving the neighborizers the choice to neighborizer seems geared to give them the chance not to give mala false positives. Masons probably don't exist for similar reasons.

I have never seen Neighborizers who are compulsive. Just the idea is stupid. In other words, don't you

always

have "the choice to neighborizer"

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #2198 (ISO) » Sat Dec 14, 2013 9:52 am

I do agree that your claim switch is weird as hell at best, though. If scum were informed of multiple neighborizers I'm some way then I would expect the situation to play out exactly the way it did here (scum claims neighborizer with specifics being a bit off, gets cornered a bit thanks to setup speculation, switches claim) which shakes townreads a bit.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #2199 (ISO) » Sat Dec 14, 2013 9:53 am

But not enough because that would be incredibly impressive for a mod hosting her second game. Remember that this is a mod hosting her second game.