NY 169: The EPIC XD Mafia Game of Greatness (Game Over)

[Empire]

Day 1, Votecount 35

Stuffed Crust (5)

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Cephrir, KoreanBBQ, Sakura Hana, DOMO, Desperado

DOMO (3)

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BROseidon, Generic, pieguyn

KoreanBBQ (3)

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MafiaSSK, Casso the King of Seals, roflcopter

Desperado (1)

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Stuffed Crust

roflcopter (1)

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F-16_Fighting_Falcon

MC Maraca (1)

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pitoli

Generic (1)

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goodmorning

Not Voting (5)

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zMuffinMan, MC Maraca, Brian Skies, Tammy, geists

With 20 alive, it takes 11 to lynch! Deadline is on December 20th at 3:45 PM EST or in (expired on 2013-12-20 16:44:27)

Mod Notes

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Ms Marangal head of MC Maraca is V/LA for a week. Sakura Hana is V/LA until Monday. KoreanBBQ are V/LA until Sunday.

NOTE: I will be a bit absent this weekend due to it being my birthday tomorrow so VCs and stuff will probably be a bit less frequent starting in about 1 hour. Apologies for the inconvenience.

[Stuffed Crust]

If I were a voting man, I'd vote pitoli desperado or muffin (desperado).

why muffin?

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

Nacho, have you developed the full Nacho-reads-list yet (complete with "town+", "town" and "leftovers?"

Also, why Pitoli, or Muffin (Talah)?

[Casso the King of Seals]

I expected muffin to come in with more blazing glory. Right now he feels more like he did in touhou as opposed to him as the tracer of rails.

[Casso the King of Seals]

Nacho, have you developed the full Nacho-reads-list yet (complete with "town+", "town" and "leftovers?"

Also, why Pitoli, or Muffin (Talah)?

It's in my head but it's not written down anywhere!
Pitoli is still concerning me for not even showing up.

[Stuffed Crust]

I don't think him being lazy is a particular scumtell and I find it weird that you would think it is.

[Stuffed Crust]

Whaddaya know, SSK is posturing to suspect me later.

coming back to this, why did you say later in this phrase, cephrir?

Because...that's...what happened...???

why would SSK be posturing to suspect you later, rather than now? later is defined as a period of time, so what are you expecting to happen "later" ?

dear sweet cephrir, you have chosen to ignore this. direct your attention this way, please!

[DOMO]

I think I'm wrong about desperado.

Not SC though.

vote stuffed crust

Why on both?

Dude do I really have to answer questions that you could answer yourself if you didn't post this and kept on reading?

[Casso the King of Seals]

No. I wouldn't cry if you responded to the other things though!

[Casso the King of Seals]

I don't think him being lazy is a particular scumtell and I find it weird that you would think it is.

It's a scumtell in certain situations. This might be one of them.

[Stuffed Crust]

I don't think him being lazy is a particular scumtell and I find it weird that you would think it is.

It's a scumtell in certain situations. This might be one of them.

Tell me more?

[Cephrir]

Whaddaya know, SSK is posturing to suspect me later.

coming back to this, why did you say later in this phrase, cephrir?

Because...that's...what happened...???

why would SSK be posturing to suspect you later, rather than now? later is defined as a period of time, so what are you expecting to happen "later" ?

I don't understand the question

That's what he was doing was it not

[Casso the King of Seals]

No thank you!

[Stuffed Crust]

Whaddaya know, SSK is posturing to suspect me later.

coming back to this, why did you say later in this phrase, cephrir?

Because...that's...what happened...???

why would SSK be posturing to suspect you later, rather than now? later is defined as a period of time, so what are you expecting to happen "later" ?

I don't understand the question

That's what he was doing was it not

It's a simple question, ceph.

SSK said you were bandwagon hopping. You countered, by saying SSK was posturing to suspect you

later.

Why did you say

later

rather than now? When do you think later would've been?

At the time I felt like you meant later as in when we flipped town and SSK would point out your hop onto our wagon. But I don't know anymore.

[geists]

Nacho, more details about your zmuffin read plz.

[Generic]

My apologies guys with my absense, I have a lot on IRL which I won't bore you with (beyond pointing out it's my birthday on Monday), but the upshot of it at the moment is that when I have a spare moment to pop back into this there is at least another three pages to read, usually more.

Unlike some people in this game I don't want to just go "not gonna read, tell me what I missed " but at present I am not able to devote much time to the catch up.

So for the next few days or so if someone wants me specifically to answer something it comment on something please put my name at the start of the post and I will periodically search my name, and please excuse the fact I'm gonna skim read sections to ensure I don't lose touch completely so if I do comment and missed something important please feel free to point that out to me.

For now happy with my vote, domo continues to make ridiculously self aware comments which don't fit right with me.

[Cephrir]

For now happy with my vote, domo continues to make ridiculously self aware comments which don't fit right with me.

If you can't deal with self-aware comments you should probably just vote me now, because it's gonna happen.

Whaddaya know, SSK is posturing to suspect me later.

coming back to this, why did you say later in this phrase, cephrir?

Because...that's...what happened...???

why would SSK be posturing to suspect you later, rather than now? later is defined as a period of time, so what are you expecting to happen "later" ?

I don't understand the question

That's what he was doing was it not

It's a simple question, ceph.

SSK said you were bandwagon hopping. You countered, by saying SSK was posturing to suspect you

later.

Why did you say

later

rather than now? When do you think later would've been?

At the time I felt like you meant later as in when we flipped town and SSK would point out your hop onto our wagon. But I don't know anymore.

It just didn't seem like he was actually about to push on me there and/or wanted to set up a trajectory before actually voting me.

[pieguyn]

Yes. Have you been reading my posts?

yeah I noticed how you seemed to be defending everyone besides SC and wanted to confirm this

I can understand the desire to pressure me and garner alignment-based tells while I'm under pressure (what I assume the Desperado vote on me was for [if you somehow flip town, I'll be tying a noose for Desp next]).

so you thought that scum-DOMO moved his vote onto scum-Desp to quell a wagon against himself? ok

Nope. I refuse to believe town is this cocky.

part of me thinks this cockiness is smth that is associated with the town varsoon I've seen. however, I haven't seen scum varsoon, so idk if he does this as scum too. can someone answer this plz

I'm with F-16 on this one, BRO.
Wouldn't any worth-a-damn player not mention it at all because they don't want to run the risk of exposing a PR?

-V

this seems too safe. why wait until after F-16 posted to give your thoughts on this? you had opportunities before to weigh in on this, so this seems like flow-going

...and then criticize others for doing the same

that's another good point

If you're town, wouldn't you just brush it off?

well you're not brushing off DOMO's attack on you so

@DOMO:The BBQ and SSK wagons were both not gaining any steam. I entered the game, looking like an easy target, and was immediately jumped on while the SSK wagon withered.
Then... people jumped onto you as my wagon lost steam.
Actually, let me check something...
SSK was KoreanBBQ, Sakura Hana, Cephrir, DOMO, pieguyn
I was pieguyn, Desperado, DOMO, Cephrir, KoreanBBQ, Sakura
DOMO is BROseidon, Desperado, Sakura Hana, Stuffed Crust, Generic, pieguyn

This makes me really suspicious of Pieguyn, Cephrir, DOMO, and Desperado.
Operating under the idea that DOMO and Cephrir are town, though,
Desperado and Pieguy's scum motivation still makes sense.

so you left out the part where my vote on you was placed before you made any posts in this thread at all, explicitly because you hadn't made any posts
ok

I'm getting mixed feelings about DOMO. On one hand, I can see the scum motivation for questionable moves. On the other, DOMO feels really genuine in response.

you have some explaining to do about this plz

At the very least, I'm not confident in my scum-read of DOMO anymore.

Yeah, laugh it up.

and now you're flip flopping on him? this backoff feels fake as fuck

pieguyn - reeks of the town pieguyn I remember, but his vote patterns are awkward.

you've got a fair point about my blatant wagon hopping. I blame the fact that I suck at larges with so many players I have no idea what the hell to do with my vote so I hop on wagons and hope for the best \o/ I'm trying to figure out a fix but fuck it

what about those 2 posts made you think he was scum? because I thought his laidbackness felt quite town but I can't read muffin for all the money in the world.

pretty much I was trying to troll him bc every game we've played he's won and I've lost and if we're opposite alignments again I especially wanna get him this time :>

skimmed the rest
tl;dr: I have no fucking idea. the idea that Varsoon was thinking scum DOMO jumped onto Desp to save himself, when Desp was also apparently scum, is a big ball of what. DOMO came out better for me in that his logic made a lot more sense and held up throughout the exchange, and Varsoon felt like caught scum re: his backoff. however, I'm having a case of paranoia right now and thinking that Cephrir and DOMO might be teammates. I have a really icky feeling on how Cephrir seemed to be focusing on Varsoon the whole time while defending everyone else, and I think it might be scum lining up a mislynch. but fuck it

vote: SC

[pieguyn]

*-skimmed the rest
was planning to and then decided fuck it I should probably fully read it. not sure how that made it through 0.0

[Cephrir]

I could see an argument that I'm scum buddying Domo, but being his scumbuddy seems kind of farfetched seeing as I could not be buddying him any harder

[Cephrir]

And yes, I'm tunnelling. Sorry. If it makes you feel better that isn't alignment indicative for me; I don't do it often but I can pull up examples of both

[Stuffed Crust]

Well, Pieguyn, I can't really tell you much aside from,

I'm town.

[pieguyn]

it's not the tunneling, it's how you were defending all the other possible lynch options, and acting like varsoon was the only one up for lynch. I guess that could be tunneling but I don't consider defending everyone else on top of that to fall under the definition of tunneling

[Stuffed Crust]

If you wanna ask me questions, I'm good at that game.
Otherwise, it's shrugs all around.
One of Desp/Domo is scum.
One of BBQ/SSK is scum.

I've done all this wooooork.

-V

[Sakura Hana]

So i'm town now?