Mini 1524: Olympian Gods Mafia - Game Over

[Wisdom]

Grim, Mala-scum wouldn't possibly know there are so many neighborizers. How did she think of this claim?

[Grimgroove]

With three neighbourizers, one of them is bound to be scum.
This means there's a neighbourizer in the scum-team, giving scum-Mala inspiration for such a claim.

Also take into account that even regardless of one of the neighbourizers probably being scum, MattP claimed before Malakittens did, so even if MattP isn't scum (heh), the claim itself could have inspired Mala for the fakeclaim.

[Wisdom]

Also your claim

[Wisdom]

Yeah, I guess Matt's claim and your claim alone were enough to understand the setup is neighborhood based, so she could have thought of it as scum.

Shit, I don't know

[Grimgroove]

Which sparked her interest in unnatural ways. I still expect a reply to my 1773. I think it will seal the deal on this "theory" Malakittens was supposedly having. It's nothing more but a thin veil of townish thinking, just like the Actor-thing,b ut there's nothing substantially town behind it. Her answer to that post will uncover that truth.

[Wisdom]

Still, however, what I said before applies.
You are being protected from being neighborized for a reason. Because people being neighborized is bad for someone. Someone has a role that is negatively affected by the more people there are neighborized.
And Mala's role fits in that perfectly.

[havingfitz]

No.

Also...when Mala made her claim she didn't know there would be a 3rd neighborizor claim...is more useless than she knew.

[havingfitz]

^ the no was wrt GGs compulsive question. Too many ninjas.

[Wisdom]

Claims so far so that we don't lose track:

MattP, Hephaestus, 2-shot Neighborizer
Grimgroove, ???, Virgin (Immune to being Neighborized)
Whiskers, Apollo, Day Neighborizer
Malakittens, Aphrodite, Delayed QT Cop (starts working on N2) + information that there are Lovers in the game
havingfitz, Hermes, Neighborizer

[shos]

I have good stuff to say, but im on my way home so later,maybe ssoon

[havingfitz]

...is more useless than she knew.

EBWOP due to $&$@! auto word....

....i.e. more useless than she knew.

[Wisdom]

While Matt's does look the most fake, mainly because of the restriction, I do not understand why he would needlessly add that restriction if he is a scum neighborizer.

[havingfitz]

Who knows. His is the only one that has one though. Maybe just taking a chance with a little added uniqueness to make it more believable.

[Wisdom]

No, wait.
I just realized what's going on.
In flavor, the neighborization means making a lover pair with someone - that's why male gods are the neighborizers and that's why being a virgin prevents that.
It makes sense for Hephaestus' "neighborization" to be limited, since he is crippled.
And also, that makes me wonder if the "lovers" that Mala knows exist, are in fact this kind of lovers, and not the "Lover" role.

Mala, what exactly is said about Lovers?

[Wisdom]

My discovery was so big that the site went down


Yeah so anyway, I have been thinking, and we are definitely not lynching Mala. Consider the following two points;
1) We know there is a virgin who is immune to neighborization. Possibly, there are more roles that can dodge a neighborizing attempt somehow. If that is the case, it would not be that easy to put a lot of players in neighborhoods (especially considering that the neighborizers would have to target different people) - therefore Mala's role is not THAT useless. It might sound useless because of the three neighborizers but maybe it's not that easy to form neighborhoods.
2) Now that we all know about the neighborizing being a negative thing for town, and since the neighborizers are not compulsive, nobody is going to neighborize anyone. That means that Mala will be very useful N2 onwards. That also means that scum will have no choice but to kill her (I guess they could live her alive for WIFOM for one night, but then they won't be able to risk letting her get investigations in).

So all that remains is hearing what exactly is the case with the lovers.

Also, you might find me crazy, but I actually don't find the possibility all three neighborizers are town that unlikely.

[shos]

the site was down for so loooong dammit!! and I gotta goooo darn ><

in short: vote mala lol

[havingfitz]

If there are three town neighborizors in this game I'm going to be sad.

[Wisdom]

in short: vote mala lol

No. We are not lynching Mala.

[Wisdom]

If there are three town neighborizors in this game I'm going to be sad.

You and Whiskers are town, I'm sure of it.

And Matt was very genuine with how he was trying to make me see my logic was faulty and everything, and so was his frustration when everyone was failing to realize they are not making sense. If someone is scum, it's him, but after that I don't think he is.

[Wisdom]

Tell me if there are any questions/disagreements with my theories etc, and then I will proceed to making cases on Mirari and Nacho, because that's who we should be lynching.

[Desperado]

wisdom, setup spec with only half of the game claimed is fucking stupid

if you're going to make decisions based on that then we need to mass claim

[Wisdom]

I don't see such a need.

[Desperado]

I would lynch mirari with you though

[Wisdom]

We have enough information to realize Mala's claim is most likely legit AND that she is going to be useful. We are very simply NOT lynching her. Just like we wouldn't lynch someone who claimed Cop in a more regular setup.

[Desperado]

I'm all about town power role synergy but the network you're describing is too vast to be legit, sorry. Mala's claim is only useful now that we know that Grim is a Virgin who can't be neighborized and that there are at least 3 neighborizers.