Mini 1524: Olympian Gods Mafia - Game Over

[Wisdom]

If we assume Mala is town and her role is real, couldn't the neighborizers just no-action to make her life easy? I think that just makes it more likely that one of the neighborizers is scum, no?

[shos]

The town looks super weak so far if the claims are true.

I still bet one of the neighbouruErd is scum.
Inb4whiskers bites me for^^^^

[penguin_alien]

GG, my understanding is that usually a neighborizer doesn't kick in until the end of the night, at which point if there's no daytalk they can't communicate anyways. It can't happen sooner, as if there's any type of interference with the neighborizer or neighborizee, the neighborhood won't form.

MattP, why did you claim when you did? Because to a paranoid mind it could appear that you claimed when it looked like Mala might be run up so scum-Mala's fakeclaim would make sense.

IIRC, Zeus threw Hephaestus off Mount Olympus because he was ugly. He's also the son of Hera and Zeus, and he and Aphrodite are an item. Not much about him fostering communication, but I don't know most of the myths associated with him.

[Wisdom]

Zeus threw him because he sided with hera in an argument (or in a variation, hera threw him because he was ugly)

[penguin_alien]

Greek gods: making the rest of us look like paragons of virtue.

[Wisdom]

Matt, how is your ability explained in flavor?

[shos]

Comment on my comment plz

[MattP]

I claimed when I did because I was convinced that Mala was town, and I thought it would make people shut up. It was irrational. I get that. I've done it before as town and it's fucked me over, where I'll claim specifically because I want people to get off my back. In this case it was a combo of me being annoyed that Wisdom was scumreading me, people riding up a player I was CONVINCED was town, and me being irritated that Wisdom was allowing Shos to skate away while furthering a mislynch.

My flavor is incredibly minimal and therefore it's difficult to state in a way that's not breaking the rules. It's along the lines of "As someone who is a source of pragmatism (this is seriously a bad way of saying it, but the word used there is literally NO way to say without just saying the word, which would be rule breaking), you can create networks with which to discuss covertly with them"

[MattP]

I'm very very bad at not claiming, ever, in any game I've ever been in. I suck for it.

[Malakittens]

Maybe some help from someone else would be very helpful to me right now or else I have to get my result somewhere else, but I rather not.

Mala, what exactly did this mean and how is it a crumb for your role? I don't understand it.

Meaning I would have used my ability on her to get a result if I couldn't get her lynch through.

[Malakittens]

Its basically equal to, help me, or ill help myself. This is crumbing nothing at all. The fact you called this a crumb makes me think you weaved through your own iso in search for any help for your crumb. That is definitely not a planned crumb. See PAs flavor crumb for a real one.

What made you suddenly want to crumb in that post? As town i usually crumb using capitals or something, spelling the role completelybin my first post or something like that. Not in midgame with no reason and hinting that i can get help from not-the-one-ispeak-with source.

I did that in Les Mis because I wanted to draw a NK. So I made it obv, however, here i didnt want to draw a NK so I made it less obv.

Really sick of people critcizing crumbs, Maestro has done it to me numerous times. being a cop you dont want to draw a nk so cop crumbs shoulnt be obv on D1 efore a result

[MattP]

Its basically equal to, help me, or ill help myself. This is crumbing nothing at all.

The fact you called this a crumb makes me think you weaved through your own iso in search for any help for your crumb. That is definitely not a planned crumb. See PAs flavor crumb for a real one.

What made you suddenly want to crumb in that post? As town i usually crumb using capitals or something, spelling the role completelybin my first post or something like that. Not in midgame with no reason and hinting that i can get help from not-the-one-ispeak-with source.

This is so ridiculously stupid and propaganda based.

[MattP]

This is exactly why I was pissed off enough to claim. Because the fact that shos is getting away with ridiculous and over-the-top comments, that you, Wisdom, were off the right path at the time, and that you were so convinced of me being scum when I earlier had been working productively with you was very merit-worthy of the claim at that time.

[Wisdom]

Not buying it

[MattP]

C'est la vie

[shos]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 7#p5387077

This is not silly, ut is a wonderful crumb.

Matt: seriously? Are you saying that you think its a good crumb? Why is it different from a cop crumb? Or tracker? Or watcher? Or ANYTHING? it says nothing about qts, its basically "im a pr guyz".

[MattP]

Matt: seriously? Are you saying that you think its a good crumb? Why is it different from a cop crumb? Or tracker? Or watcher? Or ANYTHING? it says nothing about qts, its basically "im a pr guyz".

It has nothing to do with whether it was a good crumb, it has to do with what your retort was, which was irrational and bizarre.

[Wisdom]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: matt

[shos]

I dunno what retort is.
And the point is explaining why i think the claim is fake. Do you think i am wrong in tjought/reason for it? I dont understand you

[MattP]

I dunno what retort is.
And the point is explaining why i think the claim is fake. Do you think i am wrong in tjought/reason for it? I dont understand you

So you can look up the definition.

Your reasoning for thinking the claim is fake is because she said she will have to "help herself by looking somewhere else," to which you responded that that means that she is just going to "help herself" which in no way acknowledges her use of the term "somewhere else" and oversimplifies it to make her post look remarkably worse than it really is.

[MattP]

I think her claim is bullshit, regardless of whether or not she crumbed. You are justifying it being bullshit by trying to prove her crumb is a lie even though it syntactically makes fine sense. You're just choosing reasons to discredit her that are bizarre and irrational.

[MattP]

She could easily have a fakeclaim provided to her regarding a neighborhood QT cop. She could have crumbed it because it's a specific and convincing role. You're REALLY stretching to prove that her crumb is fake

[Wisdom]

Yeah so it's still mala/matt and Matt is trying desperately to tie shos to mala

[MattP]

Yeah so it's still mala/matt and Matt is trying desperately to tie shos to mala

It's really great to keep this happy smile on my face

[Wisdom]

Or that's what he wants us to think so that we lynch mala

Which is why we lynch Matt