The MafiaScum Minecraft Thread - AllTheMods 9!!! - NEW Vanilla?

[My Milked Eek]

Room for error/decorations

[Tierce]

While we are at it, is there really any benefit in making one's Nether-side portals accurate to Y? Building them near the roof sounds much safer, and easier to tunnel through since there are few holes reaching that high.

[Rhinox]

While we are at it, is there really any benefit in making one's Nether-side portals accurate to Y? Building them near the roof sounds much safer, and easier to tunnel through since there are few holes reaching that high.

Yes and no...

say your OW portal is 50 blocks below your nether portal in the Y. If someone else builds a portal on top of a mountain 40 blocks away from you in X,Z then it could break your nether to OW portal link.

In practice I'd say that's probably not very likely to happen often but it could in places like around spawn where people are building portals relatively close together. The tierce portal and spawn mountain portal come to mind as a pair relatively close together in the OW but on different Y elevations.

[izakthegoomba]

Last time I checked the y-coord makes no difference at all. But then, the portal code was significantly overhauled for 1.7, so that may have changed.

[Rhinox]

Y has to matter - otherwise if you stacked 2 portals on top of the overworld and only had one portal in the nether, the game wouldn't know which portal to spit you out of.

Basically it works like this. If a nether portal is at (10, 100, 10) to make it simple, it will want to spit you out in the overworld to the closest portal to (80, 100, 80). If there are only portals in the OW at (80, 50, 80) and (120, 100, 80), then it will choose the portal at X:120 since it is only 40 blocks away. The one at the same X,Z is 50 blocks away.

Zones of exclusion - The Nether portal spawning algorithm can only spawn portals that are within a 33x33 block column centered on the destination. This will often cause it to spawn a portal at a location significantly different than the corresponding location in the other world. The larger the distance between two linked portals, the larger the zone of exclusion. This zone is the area in each world where you cannot build another portal without breaking the link between the first two portals. One way to think of this zone is as spheres around each portal, each of a true radius equal to its distance to the other. For example, if the Normal world portal was at (0,50,0) and the Nether portal at (0,100,0), then each portal is 50 meters away from the other. In this (simple) case, if a Nether portal was built closer than 50 meters to (0,50,0), then the Normal World portal will now link to it.
If you wish to ensure that two portals link together, manually build portals as close as possible in all 3 coordinate axes. It doesn't have to be exact, or even all that close, if the player ensures that no other portals will be constructed in the exclusion zone created by the difference.

[Rhinox]

Y usually don't matter in practice though because portals are usually far enough apart in X and Z, OW portals are generally pretty close to the same Y anyways, and usually no one goes out of their way to be farther away in Y in the nether than they need to be (whereever the convenient open area for a portal is at the desired X,Z).

[Tierce]

While we are at it, is there really any benefit in making one's Nether-side portals accurate to Y? Building them near the roof sounds much safer, and easier to tunnel through since there are few holes reaching that high.

Yes and no...

say your OW portal is 50 blocks below your nether portal in the Y. If someone else builds a portal on top of a mountain 40 blocks away from you in X,Z then it could break your nether to OW portal link.

In practice I'd say that's probably not very likely to happen often but it could in places like around spawn where people are building portals relatively close together. The tierce portal and spawn mountain portal come to mind as a pair relatively close together in the OW but on different Y elevations.

Yeah, that's what I thought. By making it different in Y (or any other coord), it risks some other portal becoming closer. It can be a calculated risk.

By the by, that spawn mountain portal definitely has the wrong Y, my portal is below sea level. And I suspect Klaz's portal is heavily misplaced.

[Xalxe]

All of these problems can probably wait until we have a hub, as I imagine the portals will be moving anyway.

[Tierce]

Oh, yeah, didn't mean to imply otherwise.

[MauriceMoss]

We have a minecraft addiction in this house.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

OMG MOSS!!! whoever you are i love you.

[Klazam]

Skelly Grinder is functional.

Just go to Bag end and follow the road inland.

[Rhinox]

Whats up with bag end by the way? is it no longer the spawn guest house? I couldn't find a way in yesterday

I got a bit of minecraftin' in before work this morning and started ghast-proofing my road between my village and spawn. Soon you'll be able to taunt all the silly ghasties safe behind glass block walls

Road currently goes from my village, through spawn, all the way to the desert/jungle village portal. After I finish ghast-proofing I'll start laying rails (but probably don't have enough yet). From there the tunnel will head west to the ice spike portal, and from there I'll need info from baldeagle to share any discoveries further west than that worth tunneling too.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

It just needs a door. If M or Tierce is ok with it, I'd be happy to spruce up the inside.

[Maestro]

I'll be furnishing Bag End soon, don't worry.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

ok.

[Maestro]

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[Tierce]

I'll be furnishing Bag End soon, don't worry.

When is "soon"?

I don't want to bug you and Klaz overmuch, but... you guys are barely on and occasionally decide to take up community projects that then get stuck for quite a while because you're not around. For the spawn shelter, this is quite important.

[Klazam]

I finished my skel spawner!

<3 I know what you mean.

[Claus]

I built an automated furnace

It is not very efficient, but it is cool. AND automated

[My Milked Eek]

Cool going to check it out when home.

[Tierce]

Hey, guys.

Stealing isn't nice. I had at least 40 leather, and now it's ALL gone. I notice quite a lot of my sugar cane has been converted into paper.

My house is not a community resource. Please put things back if you take them for any reason.

I wanted to enchant books tonight, but someone decided to take my resources that I worked on with my time. What the hell is wrong with you?

[Maestro]

^

Thanks for bringing that to everybody's attention, Tierce.

I very much have the power to figure out who it was. Please step forward or I'm banhammering.

Been too many issues with stealing on our servers in recent memory and it's not happening again.
Please spread this word to those who play on the server but do not frequent this thread.

[chesskid3]

40 leather
you fcking n00b

[Maestro]

<3