NY 169: The EPIC XD Mafia Game of Greatness (Game Over)

[KoreanBBQ]

*I* dislike his 285.

[geists]

I'm listening.

[geists]

actually I'll listen in an hour or so.

[Empire]

Those who have not confirmed have 48 hours to do so ending in (expired on 2013-12-08 16:39:55)

Day 1, Votecount 7

geists (2)

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KoreanBBQ, Generic

KoreanBBQ (2)

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Brian Skies, Tammy

MC Maraca (2)

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Sakura Hana, pitoli

pitoli (1)

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Casso the King of Seals

goodmorning (1)

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talah

Stuffed Crust (1)

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Cephrir

BROseidon (1)

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Stuffed Crust

Tammy (1)

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F-16_Fighting_Falcon

Generic (1)

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goodmorning

Not Voting (8)

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roflcopter, roflwaffles, SonOfZeus, DOMO, Desperado, MC Maraca, BROseidon, geists

With 20 alive, it takes 11 to lynch! Deadline is on December 20th at 3:45 PM EST or in (expired on 2013-12-20 16:44:27)

Mod Notes

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DOMO is V/LA until Monday.

[KoreanBBQ]

One completed game with Generic. The one where SoS was scum with him.

Nati has a lot of game experience with him. Hoping that will negate the need for any massive meta research.

I have a predisposition about people with little exposure to my playstyle scumreading me. So right now he's kinda basking in that warm glow.

You're missing "but I think he's [alignment]" part.

[geists]

One completed game with Generic. The one where SoS was scum with him.

Nati has a lot of game experience with him. Hoping that will negate the need for any massive meta research.

I have a predisposition about people with little exposure to my playstyle scumreading me. So right now he's kinda basking in that warm glow.

You're missing "but I think he's [alignment]" part.

That's because I have him as null at the moment. I liked the attack. The follow-up seemed overly agreeable and out of synch with his vote.

[MC Maraca]

Thor liked MC's opening but it wasn't actually that great.

Yeah well screw you too.

[MC Maraca]

And ffery should talk to me about nacho strength of reads.

[geists]

Reads are strong enough that Nati isn't interested in non-aggression treaties.

[MC Maraca]

Noted.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

Okay, here's what I thought:

Spoiler: ffery

I see some parallel’s to Buzzword although with a lot of major differences:
Firstly, Nacho in Buzzword went up against Orc because your slot (squared) did. He immediately dropped suspicion on Orc once he returned from a brief period of inactivity – the scum motivation clearly being he didn’t want to go against you. Here on the other hand, you indicated that Brian suspicion is unjustified – or at least, that is the implicit vibe I received from you. Tammy opposed the push as well. Assuming she is town, Nacho as scum would be pushing a player that could alienate his biggest threats – this is something I haven’t seen a parallel with in Buzzword. Let’s say he wants to push the Brian lynch, who will help him? Not you, Tammy, or even Cephrir who despite saying that Brian was trying too hard now has a townread on him. Probably not Pitoli who he is voting. Perhaps he expected me to help but I made it clear I am not sure either way about Brian. So, I am not seeing the same parallel w.r.t Brian and Orc. What did I miss?

[geists]

Okay, here's what I thought:

Spoiler: ffery

I see some parallel’s to Buzzword although with a lot of major differences:
Firstly, Nacho in Buzzword went up against Orc because your slot (squared) did. He immediately dropped suspicion on Orc once he returned from a brief period of inactivity – the scum motivation clearly being he didn’t want to go against you. Here on the other hand, you indicated that Brian suspicion is unjustified – or at least, that is the implicit vibe I received from you. Tammy opposed the push as well. Assuming she is town, Nacho as scum would be pushing a player that could alienate his biggest threats – this is something I haven’t seen a parallel with in Buzzword. Let’s say he wants to push the Brian lynch, who will help him? Not you, Tammy, or even Cephrir who despite saying that Brian was trying too hard now has a townread on him. Probably not Pitoli who he is voting. Perhaps he expected me to help but I made it clear I am not sure either way about Brian. So, I am not seeing the same parallel w.r.t Brian and Orc. What did I miss?

Spoilers are cool.

Spoiler: F16

Orcinus was a symptom in that game, and Nacho's target choices (not just orci) were only marginally about what buldermar and I were thinking. There was a deadly beauty to that game that often happens in the micro games. You wind up with a player list that is strong and is familiar with each other and the available lynch-path for scum is on a razor's edge. IMO, this game is going to be somewhat similar despite the size because the player list is strong. Even the "weak" players aren't really weak are experienced, know most of the player list, and more importantly are known - they are readable, though it may take a lot of time and effort in some cases. The scum in this game have their work cut out. Town may go haring of after a mislynch, but the circling and testing so far suggests to me that town is being cautious and cagey here now that the meet and greet is drawing to a close.

Eventually paranoia may tear town apart, but early day mislynches probably won't come easy.

There's more, but I want to see more from Casso before I break out new cans of worms.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

Okay, makes sense. I'll see how further interactions develop.

[DOMO]

Really? 17 pages already?

[Tammy]

Okay, he has still played quite a few games though.

Yeah, but let's say 20 games played over the course of a few months isn't the same as 20 played over the course of a year. There are some things that take time to learn and feel comfortable with, and how to enter games is one of them.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

Tammy, glad you are here. I thought you left me hanging after you said we could be best buddies

I want to talk about Generic. I had a townread on him based on his push of Geists but ffery's point about him being too agreeable resonated with me quite a bit. I went back through BB:HoH to see if he was too agreeable there and I noticed that he was during the last day. I am not sure if you followed it after you got nk'ed. Generic as scum was agreeing with everything Toogeloo and I said, saying we had good points, and consistently going back and forth on us although he stayed with Toog-town, me-scum for the most part except the end. I also read the VisCon:Wingate Mansion which you played where he was town. His initial attack on Marangal followed by his defense when Nacho made a case on him looked a lot different from his backing off here which has me concerned.

Do you have a read on Generic yet? If so, what?

Generic, I'd like to know your current read on Geists and your read on MC Maraca.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

About Brian, I'll just wait to see what content he provides.

[Tammy]

Tammy, glad you are here. I thought you left me hanging after you said we could be best buddies

Nope

Got caught up talking on skype, catching up on other games and drinking vodka last night before passing out. I'm about 200? posts to catch up then I'll have thoughts.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

@ Generic, read on Casso would be cool as well.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

@ Generic, read on Casso would be cool as well.

And links to games you played with Natirasha.

[Tammy]

VOTE: koreanbbq

Ok fine I was being mean to generic a bit but that ain't the way to treat the tired

old

man.

P-Edit: mislynch, of course :p

Was this Nero? Why aren't you telling me I'm wrong? I liked your slots post about wondering how many posts Varsoon had in SC, but beyond that I'm waiting for the oomph.

[Brian Skies]

17 pages?

[geists]

Ffery overestimates my attachment to Generic. We have..1 Completed game together, Mainstream Micro 4(he as the main head of Minions). But I've been stalking him offsite for a while now so I'm fairly familiar with his play.

[Tammy]

So, the first person to correctly guess what I imagine empires reaction was when he saw what random.org assigned me gets a special super secret^tm prize.

I'd appreciate the guesses in gifs by the way!

VOTE: casso king of the seals

Two quote stripers is not better than one:(

He was probably looking forward to seeing your emotional breakdown in the scum QT when I nailed the hell out of you, then had his hopes dashed when he saw you rolled town. I told him to give you scum regardless of what the numbers said but empires a better man than I am I guess

Seal plz.

Also, you're late to the party and without a gif. F-16 already got it right and claimed the prize. Sucks for you.

[Tammy]

You've never been even mildly aggravated with me!

Really? Then you get to have one of the cookies i left in the thread.