Mini 410 - McDonald's Mafia [Game Over!]

[The Central Scrutinizer]

If CS is faking it, I think it'll be simple to find out. (

note: I am not advocating or asking CS to give any more information at this point. I am saying he will proably be easy to bust or verify before a lynch if need be)

Only thing is I think that in busting DoS, I made it all too clear what any other scum should claim as vanilla.

It sounds like you're coming up with a reason to refute my claim before my wagon even begins. If I weren't 99% sure that you are a vanilla townie, I would be voting you.

[StallingChamp]

Not at all, I was comenting that we can't just have me bust all scum claiming 'nilla.

[pete d]

vote: NAR

for reasons I previously mentioned

[Glork]

Vote: TCS

[The Central Scrutinizer]

I'm

really freaked out

by this voting for me. Makes no sense.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Ok, so:

StallingChamp - claimed town
Pink Princess - claimed cop
Glork - claimed survivor
yellowbounder
Amb - claimed doctor
Frozen Atlantic - claimed roleblocker
pete d
DeanWinchester
blahgo The Central Scrutinizer - claimed town
Omega Machiavellian-Mafia
Zarvok now a ranger

Not claiming:

yellowbounder
pete d
deanwinchester
machiavellian-mafia
now a ranger

We could cover our bases if we picked the three most scummy from this group, lynch one, investigate the second, and roleblock the third. Amb protects PP. If something fucks up, then we know that someone claimed falsely.

[Frozen Atlantic]

Better idea, how bout we lynch PP today and vig you tonight?

[Glork]

Better idea, how bout we lynch PP today and vig you tonight?

What makes you so convinced that PP is lying about her role?

[Frozen Atlantic]

Not convinced she's lying, but certainly not convinced she isn't.

[Glork]

So you're willing to lynch a claimed Cop because you're not sure if she's lying?

[Machiavellian-Mafia]

Better idea, how bout we lynch PP today and vig you tonight?

I disagree. Lynching claimed cop without counterclaim should only be a last resort option because the claimed cop should have a chance to confirm his/her ability.

[Frozen Atlantic]

So you're willing to lynch a claimed Cop because you're not sure if she's lying?

I am highly suspicious of the claim.

TCS' colossally bad play idea that directs the night actions of the town seems to do wonders for both himself and the people highest on my scummometer is not helping.

[Glork]

Okay, here's what I think should happen. Any Doc, Cop, or Roleblocker which has not counterclaimed yet should do so. Why? We lynched one scumbag already on D1. Getting a second one today is

well worth the sacrifice of a power role overnight

, no matter how you look at it. If we get a counterclaim, lynch a scum, and lose a townie overnight, we're still looking at 9 players with

two scumbags dead, with the power to lynch in our hands.

That's really about as good as any town could possibly hope for. At this point, I really don't think there is *ANY* reason for a power role *NOT* to counterclaim.

Nobody else should be claiming today unless they are being run up and they had not yet claimed.

In the absence of any counterclaims, I refuse to lynch PP or Amb. I could see the existence of FrAt as a Mafia Roleblocker, but I am not willing to lynch him at this time either.

Now, for the time being, let's assume that all three power claims are true.
If PP is telling the truth, I don't know what happened to the mafia kill. We *know* that FrAt blocked her -- he has claimed it, and she has acknowledged it. We *know* that Amb can't self-protect. Thus, it does not make sense for the mafia to kill Amb unless they planned on framing him and getting lynched today. If this is the case, then somebody who came out of the gates and attacked Amb on D2 would most likely be a scumbag. That would point heavily towards DeanWinchester, who still seems to just think Amb is scummy for... some reason.

[Frozen Atlantic]

As far as a cop claim buying PP a scrutiny free day, First you say

NOOOOOOOO!

then you say -

readthegamereadthegamereadthegame

then you say -

Bababababa, I'm lynchin it

50 epoints to whoever gets that. Anyway. Still need to read closely. Vote counts?

[Frozen Atlantic]

EBWODP: Strongly agree on the counterclaim thing, obviously.

[Glork]

Now, FrAt... if everybody checks in and there *IS* no Cop counterclaim, what would you propose we do?

Oh, and while we're on the subject, it bothers me that TCS lumped his name in with the other claimed roles. He basically just claimed Townie and implied that because he's claimed as such, we shouldn't be looking at him. He suggests a plan that just goes after unclaimed players, and he advocated a massclaim earlier. TCS definitely does *NOT* sit well with me right now. I'm very happy with my vote on him.

[DeanWinchester]

First off I am only following Glork because I know he is Not mafia.
Second at first I didn't believe PP's claim, but after some thinking it made perfect sense that she was a paranoid-cop or naive.

I'm the health inspector town cop. I check poeple Belongings not there pockets. N1 I targeted Glork. He came back clean for poisons.

A manager that checks the poeple themselves hoping that scum is stupid enough to keep it on them seems like a great flavor role. Plus managers never know what is really going on.

Somthing with Amb's claim just made me very uneasy, but I guesse I will find out shortly whether she was telling the truth.

[Glork]

Unvote

Now *this* is interesting. Things are definitely once again pointing towards PPscum.

[StallingChamp]

Ok, Dean - what exactly was the result of your inspection of Glork? ("town", "scum", or something else). NO ONE ELSE ANSWER THIS FOR HIM!

[DeanWinchester]

He came back as not having poison in his possesion.

[DeanWinchester]

It is just a straight do they have poison or do they not. He had no poison.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Now, FrAt... if everybody checks in and there *IS* no Cop counterclaim, what would you propose we do?

Oh, and while we're on the subject, it bothers me that TCS lumped his name in with the other claimed roles. He basically just claimed Townie and implied that because he's claimed as such, we shouldn't be looking at him. He suggests a plan that just goes after unclaimed players, and he advocated a massclaim earlier. TCS definitely does *NOT* sit well with me right now. I'm very happy with my vote on him.

Ask StallingChamp to read my posts in isolation and then tell you if I'm scum.

pete d, yellowbounder, machiavellian-mafia, now a ranger, does your flavor include a

reason

that you came to McDonald's?

Amb, who did you target last night?

[StallingChamp]

Woah, woah woah! That post of TCS reeked of scumminess to me. Comments in bold.

Ask StallingChamp to read my posts in isolation and then tell you if I'm scum.

First of all, why was I dragged into this? Also, I have already said you look VERY scummy. I don't care for your posts in isolation when your posts in context stick out.

pete d, yellowbounder, machiavellian-mafia, now a ranger, does your flavor include a

reason

that you came to McDonald's?

What gives you the right to deduce that we should, in essence, mass-claim? Assuming you are a 'nilla (which is quite the stretch to begin with), what tells you that they may or may not have a reason even if you do or don't. I mean, if the powerroles are managers, for example, it may not say "You are at McDs to work".

Amb, who did you target last night?

Sorry, but why does this matter right now? I think its safe to assume it was either me or Glork, since we led the lynch on DoS. Glork claimed Survivor, make what you want of that, and the town seems to be accepting that, at least for the time being. Maybe I'm being egotistical here (correct me if I am), but I think I am almost 100% confirmed town for how I busted DoS. So if the town accpets that both probable targets are town, why not let Amb keep the target hidden, at least for now?

[DeanWinchester]

Still happy with my vote on TCS.

[Glork]

Guys, the play at this point is to lynch PP.

If she's town, FrAt should vig Dean, Amb should protect FrAt, and the scums will very likely kill Amb.

If she's scum, FrAt should do as he pleases, Amb should protect one of FrAt/Dean, and the scums will still likely kill Amb.

Vote: Pink Princess

. Sorry, dear. I still love you.