N's Notably Narcissistic Nonsensical Namesake (game over)

[Varsoon]

You can't shake my resolve, regardless, because

I believe

[N]

Vote Count 7.02

Luna Lovegood

( 1 ) PeaceBringer

PeaceBringer

( 4 ) Mac, Luna Lovegood, Varsoon

Varsoon

( 0 )

Mac

( 0 )

Not voting:

With 4 alive, it takes 3 to lynch.

Deadline is in

(expired on 2013-12-08 01:46:19)

[N]

PeaceBringer has been lynched!
He was

Networker

, Encryptor,

Nice

.

[N]

The Mafia have won!

I personally hate mods that say stuff like this because they usually don't follow through,but I promise I will make proper mod posts as soon as I can from a computer. In the meantime,everyone is welcome to comment on the game/share qt links/complain about the mod.

[Cabd]

I'm not a fan of the way that voting shuffle was handled. Yes your rules say it but it was rather silly IMO

[PeaceBringer]

I'm not a fan of the way that voting shuffle was handled. Yes your rules say it but it was rather silly IMO

I take it by this comment that Luna was in fact the last remaining BG.
I certainly agree that the voting rule is less than to be desired and it was taken advantage of in this game either on purpose or not. A vote is a vote is a vote and such a rule can be manipulated as appears to have happened here.

[ooba]

The Mafia were:

Nacho

(Nurturer),

Mitilos

(Nearby Newcomer),

Dante

(Nagging Notifier),

ooba

(Ne'er-do-well)

Spoiler: Mafia Roles

You are a

Nurturer

(in other words: a

Seraph Knight

)

.
This means that once during the game, you can choose one player. You will protect this player from any deaths at night until you die.

You are a

Nearby Newcomer

(in other words: a

Universal Backup Traitor

)

.
This means that you will take on the role of the first person to be lynched (regardless of their alignment).
You will join the rest of the mafia if you are shot by them. They know a Traitor exists, but not who you are. If they are all dead before you are recruited, you will surrender.

You are a

Nagging Notifier

(in other words: a

Roleblocker Mailman

)

.
This means that can you roleblock and anonymously message someone at night. They will receive a PM at the start of the next day containing your message, in the form "Someone nagged you all night. All you can remember is

(message)[/quote ]".
If you are blocking, you must send a message. It must be at contain at least fives Ns and be no longer than twenty five words long.

You are a

Ne'er-do-well

(in other words: a

Godfather

)

.
This means that if you are targeted by a Sane Cop, you will return an innocent result.

Mafia QT: http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/tQdZ7StfuaRi9

Dead QT: http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/KPeSrbtDfq8kb

[ooba]

I'm not a fan of the way that voting shuffle was handled. Yes your rules say it but it was rather silly IMO

I take it by this comment that Luna was in fact the last remaining BG.

I actually read that as Cabd saying scum should have won the day earlier when I hammered Luna? Not sure.

I'll discuss the voting rule and the gambit first.

I actually noticed the voting rule first when I was collating role PMs for this post (http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 6#p5474916) and saw N's previous post (http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 0#p5371410). We had a feeling a situation might arise where Varsoon might put Luna at L-1 and had a contingency plan that used this.

I think the gambit helped but keep in mind that all players in LyLo knew about a fakehammer gambit and even discussed them - so we weren't dealing with a bunch of VIs.

I think what gave us the game was Luna's posting after my supposed hammer and the last day's play. It was so genuinely town-like and that is *really* to pull off. Compare this to my posts in the Mafia QT where I'm afraid to post after the hammer - because I know it's tough faking a victory when you know it's a gambit. I kept the excitement in the dead QT alive by appearing to be pissed at the voting rule - and even there, people considered a gambit but mostly (except Des and RT who were sceptical) - thought Luna was town from his posting.

So overall: I think N should probably remove it from his ruleset. However, I think what brought home this game for the mafia was Luna's great play at the end - credit where credit is due, I guess.

[Luna Lovegood]

Getting fruit the day after we killed peregrine was the saltiest feeling in the world.

[ooba]

My thoughts on the game:

I think town were a bit apathetic during the initial days and let deadline compromise lynches happen more than once. I'm not sure whether the majority really felt {dopog, mnemonicdevice, Kmd4390} were scum - those lynches just happened. Compare that to D4 where town really got in it's groove - the 4 wagons on that day were on Peace, Luna, Mitilos and Dante - with Dante eventually getting lynched.

If this had happened even a day earlier, we would have been in a lot of trouble - esp. since DV would have still been alive. The massclaim was really the point where town got a bit more active and focused - Race wanted to do a massclaim D3 - luckily that never happened.

Setup:

I'm still thinking about the setup - I would like to see N's notes on what happens when each role is normalized.
- I really wish N had split Nero's role into two 1-shot slots - just to see a normalizer make it to N2
- Lots of red herrings in the game. I liked that.
-- For scum, the presence of a Nurturer made us think *there* was a vig in the game. And that's why we shot PV. This miscalculation nearly cost us the game, since PV was going to be mislynched and it just removed one person from that pool.
-- For town, the two cops. If I was town in this game, I would have definitely lynched one of the two cops on D2 - probably BBM.
- The lack of fake claims was painful. While we made our own, we dodged a lot of bullets - we had "Necronamcer" as a fakeclaim once - luckily DV claimed before we had to. The tree-stump claim was a bad mistake - I never thought we would have even players - Nothing notable would have been better.

@Mit:

Why didn't you just claim Nearby Newcomer: Universal Backup? It doesn't appear that scummy at face value.

[Luna Lovegood]

Like we faked an excellent peace bringer fake post and PV was totally gonna shoot him but then he wasn't a vig and I didn't want to continue being fake pb because I figured his reactions would be too genuine to handle

[Luna Lovegood]

Vote: mnemonicdevice

the stars tell me that this vote is a good one
they also probably have paranoid niggles on peregrinev but they do know that giving him an extra day probably is best, considering roleblocker if scum will be completely trapped on peregrine
mem is not a star child and is not town by the feeling of my early bones either, so she's doubly a good vote for now.

Here was my necromancer crumb, was gonna claim it was a Nero scumread or some shit like that

[Luna Lovegood]

Ooba was seriously a great scumbuddy, and mitillos claim was fucking impressive and made me think he was town as shit

[Luna Lovegood]

Until I remembered traitor crumb

[Luna Lovegood]

Everything going to shit D4 and me reflexively bussing all of my buddies was kind of funny tbh

[Luna Lovegood]

Once the town woke up, we were pretty much sitting ducks

[Mitillos]

@ooba: Because then I'd also be claiming compulsive framer.

@Luna: I was so sad at not being recruited.

[Desperado]

Mara and I took too long to take control

[Ms Marangal]

[Ms Marangal]

the one game I wasn't paranoid as fuck about you.

[Ms Marangal]

hahaha

Nacho, I love your role

[Mitillos]

Incidentally, these were my traitor crumb posts: 718, 1217, 1256, 1261.

[Mitillos]

Oh man, good thing no-one ISO'd ooba. In posts 1648-1649 his unvote makes it clear he was very aware of the "new line" rule.

[BBmolla]

wp, scum deserved to win. I'm actually glad you guys gamed N's modding system.

[pirate mollie]

I don't think I should have to count this game I was only in it for like a minute.