N's Notably Narcissistic Nonsensical Namesake (game over)

[ooba]

Varsoon, I'm reading Calvin and Hobbes Mafia. Dante's posting doesn't give me the same feel in that game and this - there he seems pretty laid back, not wanting to step on toes kind as opposed to the antagonistic style here. What made you think the playstyle was similar across games?

[ooba]

Updating my table
- Mac+Varsoon cannot be scum because they could have hammered Luna
- Luna+Varsoon cannot be scum because they could have hammered Peace

Dante Meta

Dante's scum play in Calvin and Hobbes and how he interacted with scum buddies

Roflcopter
- Got lynched early on.
- Dante was the second on his wagon but then votes got reset - he "was inclined to vote Rofl" but never got around to doing it

Boxxy:
- Another player calls him out for not voicing his thoughts on Boxxy. Responds with a noncommittal response asking for other player's case on Boxxy.
- Boxxy is town in read list

NS
- NS is scum in read list
- Votes NS - second on wagon again.
- Calls TSO town for flimsy reasons even though TSO seems scummier than NS
- Wagon off NS moves to another player - "That moved quickly from NS...strange. I'll hammer...do we want to give him a last word?" - I think this shows relief that his scum buddy wasn't lynched and is indicative of his attitude towards scum buddies whose case he pushes - 'I'll bus you but hope I won't have to lynch you'
- In fact, after this, he always maintains that NS is scum but goes after other targets

Dante's interactions this game:
BBM -
- Expresses confusion on the cop's claiming

Mac\Titus\RC\Vifam -
- Conversation with RC "Makes two of us." on RC not liking dopog lynch
- Expresses confusion on the cop's claiming
- RC asks people to get off MD wagon because he's just a bad player. Dante says "He doesn't care what kind of player MD is"
- Asks RC for a case on BBM
- Votes RC (first on wagon)

Mutley\KidA\Varsoon -
After reading the Varsoon exchanges - I find it hard to believe that Dante would have chosen a double voting scum to bus - esp. since it was out of the blue

Peacebringer -
- Rude statement - "Really? A decade? Wow. Need to write a book or something." directed at PB's experience
- "What's your case on Peace?" to PeregrineV
- Discussion with PB on whom to lynch
- Agrees with me that peace is town
- Votes Peace at the end for self preservation

Luna -
Zero interactions with Luna in the game

Analysis from Dante's interaction:
- Varsoon is town
- Not much interaction with Luna, BBM - probably not partners - more sure of Luna than BBM here
- Focus on {Peace, Mac}

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	Luna Lovegood	PeaceBringer	Varsoon	Mac	BBmolla
Luna Lovegood	-	-	-	-	-
PeaceBringer		-	-	-	-
Varsoon	X	X	-	-	-
Mac			X	-	-
BBmolla	X*		X	X	-

X - Defenitely not scumbuddies
X* - Leaning not scumbuddies, but unsure

Peace with one of {Luna, BBM, Mac}
(or) Luna - Mac

Let me see if I can narrow this down with Mitilos

[ooba]

Mit ISO

Initial read list:
BBM - Null
Dante - Town
Luna - Null-town
Mac - Null
Peace - Null-scum

#10
Calls RC scummy for the initial guilty on peace. Peace is also scum but top scum mnemonic

#13
The "Every role we've seen so far was made up of two N-words and had two components to its description." seems too weak a logic to bus a scum buddy on. Probably not scum with BBM.

#48
Luna is town
"Peace, Rail, RC and Shadow in a later post, as I'm feeling somewhat tired, at the moment." -> But never makes this post

#76
"partially agree with Shadow's choices for scum. Specifically, Peace and Dante. I'm starting to think Luna may be third. Finally, one of RC/BB, not yet sure which."
-> Not sure he'd claim "Peace and Dante" if both were scum buddies here. Probably not scum with Peace
The voting peace immediately afterwards makes me feel better too

After Dante's lynch - goes strongly after Luna. Mentions peace but doesn't vote him again.

Then votes peace again? What happened to Luna conviction??

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Based on that I'd say the scum pair is {Luna, Mac}. Let me take a lot of inter player interactions within those alive and I'll tell you the final verdict.

[Luna Lovegood]

Mmmmmmmm.

[Luna Lovegood]

It would be incredibly odd for ooba to actually follow through with analysis if he was scum fakeclaiming stump and had no intention of actually stumping unless he thought he could get away with not stumping (although he seriously, seriously won't be able to).

[PeaceBringer]

Reminder that Mit was mafia traitor, so not likely on the board and probably did not know who was scum...

[N]

Vote Count 6.07

Luna Lovegood

( 1 ) PeaceBringer

PeaceBringer

( 1 ) Mac

ooba

( 0 )

Varsoon

( 0 )

Mac

Titus

( 0 )

BBmolla

( 0 )

Not voting:

Luna Lovegood , ooba , BBmolla , Varsoon

With 6 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

Deadline is in

(expired on 2013-11-27 08:20:12)

[Mac]

town. why do you feel im scum so bad?

Gut. Something feels wrong about you in this game.

ive only just dropped into this game on this day. if you pinpoint what it is, i can help you see where you are going wrong.

[Mac]

interesting point i have written in my notes is that dante was attacking mnemonic for using meta, whilst at the same time, turning the other way from peace using meta on katsuki.

that should fit in with your notes ooba

[Mac]

Reminder that Mit was mafia traitor, so not likely on the board and probably did not know who was scum...

chances are he knew

[Varsoon]

Varsoon, I'm reading Calvin and Hobbes Mafia. Dante's posting doesn't give me the same feel in that game and this - there he seems pretty laid back, not wanting to step on toes kind as opposed to the antagonistic style here. What made you think the playstyle was similar across games?

There was something more about his rhetoric and how he interacted with players that struck me as similar.

[ooba]

I forgot about the traitor bit. I'll need to reanalyze mit and look at player interactions - but not sure if I'll have time before work to finish it though.

Discussion's also stagnating on my account so I'll stump in another 8 hours come what may - if i manage to get time to post anything else, thats a bonus.

Right now, analysis plus gut says you can ignore Varsoon and BBM for scum. Look at interactions between other three to decide which two seem like scumbuddies. I think the play is {Luna, Mac} but this is one of those games where I'm glad I'm not deciding LyLo.

Good luck.

[PeaceBringer]

Reminder that Mit was mafia traitor, so not likely on the board and probably did not know who was scum...

chances are he knew

based on what?

[BBmolla]

Ooba, if you are a town stump and if you're correct that Varsoon is town, we're in good shape.

[PeaceBringer]

Ooba, if you are a town stump and if you're correct that Varsoon is town, we're in good shape.

Well if ooba is town it narrows things down to Luna and then you or mac. So it may come down to me making right choice unless a wrong choice is made today. That or which ever of you is town becomes convince to lynch in lylo...

[Mac]

Reminder that Mit was mafia traitor, so not likely on the board and probably did not know who was scum...

chances are he knew

based on what?

traitors generally receive their buddies in their rolepm, i believe.

[BBmolla]

Depends on mod.

[PeaceBringer]

Depends on mod.

this could be one, could be none, could be they know but he does not, could be he knows them but they do not know him. There is no evidence one way or another in this game to make an conclusions.

[ooba]

Didn't have time after work. It's clobbering time!!

Narrator Narrating N's Notably Narcissistic Nonsensical Namesake

[Varsoon]

Vote : Mac

I like Nacho too much.

[Varsoon]

Unvote

Should actually wait to see if the mod actually does stump ooba.

[PeaceBringer]

Vote : Mac

I like Nacho too much.

but Nacho is scum, you are going to have to actually build a case between him and bbmola once mod give us ooba's actual status.

It would be an awful set up if bot bbmolla and mac's slot are scum
odds are you die if we have a proper lynch and do not lose the game.
So getting in your thoughts would be helpful. And yes, you don't feel right about "mac" but have you looked over RC and titus play up to that point?

Luna has to be scum here and it is about a sure thing as you can get...

[Luna Lovegood]

Ooba, if you are a town stump and if you're correct that Varsoon is town, we're in good shape.

Ooba town means that things get really, really weird from my position.

[Luna Lovegood]

aka Peacebringer pretty much HAS to be scum here unless you're playing a really good game, and I guess he would have to be scum with mac? but that would still be really really impressive scumplay. peace is good, but I don't think he's that good tbh.

[N]

bump