Mobile Suit Gundam SEED Mafia - Game Over

[pieguyn]

???

it's a joke because of how much they're attacking each other

for extra lulz let's add talah in there too

can you imagine if that were actually the team oh my god

[Wake1]

Dismissive label. I have lost integrity, now that is low. Regardless of alignment, I play with integrity. I take that as a personal attack.

This means I never, regardless of alignment,

A) Try to make the game unenjoyable
B) Lie about vla status
C) Make up rl excuses that are not true
D) Try to encourage others to play against wincon
E) Personally attack players in a manner that reflects on them outside the game
F) Playing against wincon.

These I feel violate an internal code of conduct. Anything elseis playing with integrity. Never once have I lied in a manner that would hurt the town. You can bank on that.

I mean your position in this game. Its integrity is compromised, because you keep changing your stances constantly, moaning about not being anti-Town while killing Town and defending Serial Killer, etc. That kind of utter, unrepentant crap. Neat reaction, though.

[talah]

Talah, I am saying you are scum PRs.

When did you ever say that before now, and how does this factor into your notion of how fakeclaims work in this setup?

I am not digging through DVs posts right now when I have caught scum in front of me, other games and limited time.

Why wouldn't you validate your caught-scum argument with the interactions of flipped-scum?

Scum whiteknighted me according to you. Am I supposed to predict that? Why on Day 1, stick your neck out for a scumbuddy. That makes no sense jnless you were certain that flip wouldn't work. DV had no way of knowing that. The proper response is bussing.

Because there was a counterwagon of equal size, and it's a safe argument to say that "we'll know better tomorrow - if Kalimar has any more shots he's probably town".

Your positioning argument is shit as I was fully capable of shooting yesterday but you asked me not yo unless I was certain. Now I am.

It's very likely you did shoot me last night, and Pyro took the bullet. I've been making myself a target by wifomming my use of gunsmith both nights. You keep shooting at me, hopefully we'll continue to have one nightkill, or none at all if pie gets lynched.

I was not drawing an associative tell between Wake and Majiffy there. I have been screaming Jiffy town for awhile. Oh wait, that doesn't fit with the narrative, better find something.

"Yet, the dynamic between Wake/Majiffy leaves me uneasy to say the least."

That's an associative tell. Between Wake and Majiffy. Made by you.
You don't try to explain how your reads have changed, you just flat-out deny that you made the statement in the first place.

[AGar]

Because lynching Wake doesn't solve the major issue with this game, and he's claimed tracker which can track tonight.

Tracker isn't a strong enough role to justify keeping him around, especially when he's scum.

Otherwise, I've slept for all of 2 hours in a rest stop this morning in the past 48 hours or so, and I'm absolutely mentally drained. I have a 12+ hour shift tomorrow, too. So I'm going to V/LA until Sunday in the afternoon when I've recharged and gotten off of the caffeine drip I'm currently on.

In the meantime, if you lynch Wake, I won't be sad.

[Kdub]

Day 3 - Vote Count #21

kanyeknowsbest (0)

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Belisarius (0)

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waynegg (0)

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pieguyn (3)

- Majiffy, Wake88, Belisarius

AGar (0)

-

PeregrineV (0)

-

leviathan93 (0)

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Svenskt Stål (0)

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Majiffy (0)

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Pyrotechnics (0)

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EspeciallyTheLies (0)

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NachoKoopa (0)

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Wake88 (6)

- Titus, kanyeknowsbest, Natirasha, pieguyn, AGar, NachoKoopa

talah (0)

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Natirasha (0)

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Titus (2)

- talah, waynegg

No lynch (0)

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Not voting (5)

- PeregrineV, leviathan93, Svenskt Stål, Pyrotechnics, EspeciallyTheLies

16 votes available
9 votes needed to lynch

Deadline: (expired on 2013-11-24 21:08:27)

V/LA: Natirasha (10/10)

[talah]

Bet you five bucks Kdub doesn't get page 201 pagetop and post 5000.

[Majiffy]

PV is doing an excessive amount of lurk-away-real-conversation-in-favor-of-busywork.
Diving into the deep end of the scum pool.

Are all of these associative tells with unflipped Pie?

These are assuming Pie flips factional scum.

Scum pool changes with SK Pie.

Actually, DV already flipped and so provides us more real information than your assumption of Pie as another mafia team which, while you think is true, is not confirmed. DV, however, has already flipped.

Shit argument. We already know Pie is scum, we just don't know what kind. And there are

3 whole dayphases

of every player interacting heavily with pie and pie wagons.

\

Besdies, at this time, Pie's enitre scumteam is under our control and we are using it to kill the other scumteam (according to Majiffy).

You're clearly not reading whatsoever.

[waynegg]

Yeah just ingore the post where I summarize everything and show coherent thought throughout and claim it doesn't exist.

Face it, I have Wakescum. Move on.

I read it. It made no logical sense at best and was a weak cop out at worst. Try again again.

[waynegg]

Talah

It's entirely possible to get associative a without flips. I do it accurately all the time.

[talah]

Good for you.

Her set of proposed scum is everyone who has hard or soft claimed a PR.

She says I somehow "trapped" Sakura, or that I was trapped having steered Sakura off something?

I was townreading Sakura pretty early on.

Nobody wants to do fucking anything today except policy lynch or lynch pie.

I've got a life to live. Even Majiffy's just thrashing up against a brick wall.

Why are there only two alternatives? Why is a third of the playerlist voting nobody?

PROD DODGE

[waynegg]

Didn't say everybody could. I'm right there with you in case you didn't notice.

[waynegg]

So what? Is everybody waiting to page grab for 5000 or sumpthin?

[Kdub]

Svenskt Stål has requested replacement.

The status of the Pyrotechnics slot is still up in the air until I hear back from Tammy.

[waynegg]

When lying while writing, people tend to follow patterns. When making lists, they will "hide" the lies by putting them in safe zones. Looking at DV's lists, two possible patterns emerged. This is the first pattern I noticed, looking at the list as a whole and noting the positioning relationship between both lists:

1 Kanye
2 PeregrineV
3 Pyrotechnics
4 Sakura Hana
5 Wake88
6 Talah
7 Natirasha
8 Titus
9 Belisarius (Probably should be in the group above, but I'm worried about his lack of posting lately)
10 AGar
11 Svenskt
12 Majiffy
13 Nacho
14 Wayne
15 Leviathan

1 Kanye 0

9 Belisarius -7
14 waynegg -11
10 AGar -6
15 leviathan93 -10

6 Talah 0

7 Natirasha 0

2 PeregrineV +6
13 NachoKoopa -4
5 Wake88 +5

11 Sven 0

12 Majiffy +1
3 Pyrotechnics +11
4 Sakura Hana +15
8 Titus +8

The +, -, and 0 indicate the movement of each name within the list. This analysis implicates Kanye, Talah, Nat, and Sven with Majiffy being an outlier.


The second analysis is based on the rule of three and considers each grouping (town, null, scum) as subsets of each list independent of one another:

Kanyeknowsbest

Belisarius
waynegg
AGar

leviathan93

talah
Natirasha
)mastin2(

Town with reservations (null):
)DrDolittle(
Pieguyn
PeregrineV

NachoKoopa

Matias

Leftover (scum):

Kise
)Empking(
Majiffy

Pyrotechnics

Sakura Hana
)Mac(
Kalimar


Super town:

Kanye

PeregrineV
Pyrotechnics

Sakura Hana

Wake88
Talah

Natirasha

Titus

Null:

AGar
Svenskt
Majiffy

Nacho

And then there's:

Wayne
)Empking(

Leviathan

Both these implicate Kanye, Nacho, and Levi with outliers of Sakura Hana and Pyro.

The combination of all there analysis implicate Kanye. Nacho, Levi and Nat pinged on two. Outliers are Majiffy, Sakura Hana, and Pyrotechnics.

Pie is still the best lynch.

I want to lynch Titus.

Kanye is the most logical choice outside of Pie.

[waynegg]

I think all the scum will be found in

Kanye
Nacho
Levi
Nat
Titus
Pyro
ETL

And of course Pie.

[waynegg]

And Majiffy if he's still alive at LyLo.

[Wake1]

Prod-dodge.

I'm not sure what to do at the moment. I've cooled off finally, which is good because I can be a stubborn numbnut when mad. Which is diabolically weird, because I'm extremely calm, patient, and humble irl and in work, which earned me Employee of the Month for October in caregiving (out of 85 employees and being there only 4 months). It's not bragging, because my job sucks for the average peeps because wiping dirty old bottoms and dealing with frustrating conditions like ALS and Alzheimer's isn't appealing to them. Guess the question is whether or not the "real" aspect of a person is defined by that person's behavior in real life or online. Tangent aside, I'm in a good mood and have had my precious cheap coffee from McDonald's, and am intent on reusing my cup throughout the week. Yes, I'm a criminal in real life.

Guess I can be moody as hell at times, especially when under insane stressors. So, sorry being a dumb dick.

Anywhoo, kdub's game is great and he runs it well, and I'm hoping he shares some of his notes with me for whenever I can host my own game in this section.

Reviewing some of the pages, I really don't understand why there's a wagon on me. If you want to grill me, that's A-OK. I like a BBQ. However, there are better numbnuts to crack. Titus I think has really been morphing and changing her stance over the Days, which is irksome. Belisarius is way out in the background, which doesn't help the anxiety. Kanye and AGar haven't really contributed much, except personal potshots and flimsy reasoning; sorry, that's just how I see it. I'm hoping and praying Waynegg and Majiffy are Town. Nacho, Levi, Nat, Pyro, and ETL really need to come on in and party hardy in here. Peregrine I'm still trying to sort out. With Titus, she and I have gone at it on multiple games, and I'm not ruling out the possibility that she's innocent—albeit stubborn—Townie; I just can't tell.

[Majiffy]

Wayne that was probably the least explained IIOA I've ever managed to see.

[Majiffy]

And Majiffy if he's still alive at LyLo.

Also this is true in pretty much every game ever.

Except when scum is

really

dumb and don't realize taking me to LYLO is autowin for town.

[Kdub]

StefanB replaces Svenskt Stål.

[Kdub]

Belisarius, NachoKoopa, and EspeciallyTheLies have been prodded.

[NachoKoopa]

probably just gonna emoticon prod dodge until wake gets lynched

[talah]

VOTE: Wake88

I'm pissed off with you Nacho. I absolutely despise policy lynches because they are incredibly easy for scum to hide in.

If Wake flips town you can be tomorrow's lynch. Sound good? You're making virtually no effort in this game and if you're town you should be the shining beacon of virtue and intelligence. That's your town meta. This middle-ground Nacho I don't get. Explain it to me sometime. The only good I can see coming from this lynch is that maybe.. MAYBEEE, some other good players won't crack the shits and sub out.

How are you reading Titus, and what do you think of her pushes?

[EspeciallyTheLies]

Wayne that was probably the least explained IIOA I've ever managed to see.

I was going to say this as well.

Not to mention the fact that it sounds completely bonkers given actual reads, and that the guy flipped scum.

sheeping jiffy cuz i'm lost and because nothing seems to get done as long as the SK is around.

VOTE: pieguy

[Belisarius]

nothing seems to get done as long as the SK is around.

Read this in bold caps, everyone voting Waltfeld, the freaking XO of Meteor.

Wayne, I liked your post about DV's reads. Fuck it. Haters gonna hate.