NY 167: COMPLETELY NORMAL Mafia (GAME OVER)

[Angry Frat BROs]

Cabd was town in a game I modded offsite.

And I remember thinking he was a strong town player. The scumteam did as well and actually killed him on N1 even though it sorta doomed a member of theirs because of Cabd's flip.

[sangres]

Uh, your scumvibe on me in goonies was purely based on me aggressively shoving a slot you knew to be town (yours). So if I ha called you scum and voted you here, that would be scummy on me? And in NY 165 I was just kind of loud scum cause I figured I could get a way with it. Not sure where Im going with this tbh, I'm in this game. You seem less paranoid about me than you should. Like you are TELLING me that you are, but Im not feeling the paranoia. Eh.

You also went after the player that I was most strongly townreading on day 1 of that game, and that was two reads I couldn't believe you wouldn't get right. Re paranoia, I guess I only have so much paranoia to go around, and I'm kinda counting on Nacho to counterbalance it and make sure my concerns stay reality-based.

Cabd was town in a game I modded offsite. Other than that, no I havent played with him as town.

Do you think you can spot town-Cabd?

Also while I have you hear, quick thoughts for me on:

Dr. Jekyll, Sakura, TIP, RC?

I think scum-Jekyll would be pretty constrained by the presence of both Nacho and me in the game. I'm watching, but not really seeing stuff I associate with his scum game so far.

I think Sakura will become pretty obviously town before the day ends if she's town.

I default to scumreading TiP so I'll depend on Nacho to help with that read. And on MC Maraca if I see something resembling their paradox prime game.

RC is giving me hives.

[goodmorning]

SEIOUSLY PRETTY LAZY, ACTUALLY

Votecount 1.16

Sakura Hana [L-5] - Rank, Doctor Jekyll, Hermy, Guyett

yessiree [L-7] - likeabauss, MC Maraca

JacobSavage [L-7] - sangres, Sakura Hana

RadiantCowbells [L-7] - Toomai, Angry Frat BROs

likeabauss [L-8] - yessiree

sangres [L-8] - MVP

Hermy [L-8] - RadiantCowbells

Guyett [L-8] - PeregrineV

Not Voting [3] - JacobSavage, caledfwitch, TheIrishPope

With 17 alive, it takes

9

to lynch. The day will end in (expired on 2013-11-20 09:39:00)

Notes:
PeregrineV and Sakura Hana are V/LA through 11/4.

[Guyett]

@Mod Sak is L-5

...

[MC Maraca]

Hi. I'm here and catching up and stuffsies.

[Guyett]

Not seeing scum tip yet btw
Caled could well be scum... I'll have to reread lucid dreamers

[yessiree]

busy irl will find time for this

[Angry Frat BROs]

You also went after the player that I was most strongly townreading on day 1 of that game, and that was two reads I couldn't believe you wouldn't get right.

Alright, then lets talk about reads this game and compare. I am wrong sometimes although not very often. ; )

Ugh Nacho. He can't read me for shit. Tunneled the shit out of me all game we were in together and was like "lol mastin2, how can you have such a silly townread on AP, that is so weird". Mastin was scum. GG no re.

Spoiler:

now that the ugly work is done we can lynch scum

Vote: AngryPidgeon

the case on this kid is as hard as a diamond in an ice storm
so lynch him now

also, i might be a little lurky soon
i am going to learn how to round dance (rumba, quickstep, waltz) so when i'm back i'm probably just going to sleep the day away
don't use my absence as an excuse to not lynch this clown

So from a logical perspective...I just don't see why lynching AP over qwints is ever going to be a good plan.

I did. Meaning that there's a very special reason why I am focusing on AP over qwints. It means that I fucking know that AP is scum and qwints amounts to what is essentially a backup suspicion. Yes AP town is more valuable, but that's not what we care about right now. I have LS as 100% town, I have Mala as pretty fucking town, I have Jal as pretty fucking town, I have GreyICE as pretty fucking town, I have penguin as pretty fucking town, I have Loran as pretty fucking town... The only powerful player I have as scum is ANGRYPIDGEON and it's a strong fucking read. Right now, the name of the game is neutralizing threats, and the biggest threat to the town is the mafia psychic that you have a

completely irrational townread on.

4.

AngryPidgeon

_{rep. Adam-12 D2}

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Test Subject

- Lynched Day Two

Re Cabd: I need more time to be sure. He feels town right now, but certainly not someone I would invite to a townblock kind of town. His scumplay in 165 felt a little .. uninspired? I don't know, I was way focused on shoving my own agenda that game and lightly bussing him on the side. I felt like he was obvious scum that game, but a lot of it was because of his claim and the BS flip. The RB claim was obviously from scum the instant BS flipped, so eh. /waffles.

What do you associate with Jekyll's scum game? I see its a hydra, havent cared to learn their identity. I see a lot of weak opinions and posts that look nervous from that slot. I didn't like their interactions with MVP at all.

Errr, ok. Not sure what to make of the cryptic bit about Sakura. I felt her narrative on the her/toomai/tip interactions was a bit disjoint in a weird way. And she herself admitted to her reaction test being a .... reaction test then went on to berate TIP?? for derailing a stupid question? Her honing on on TIP calling someone "conftown" as scummy feels a bit easy to me. I can see town having issue with it, but she just instantly scumread him for it and seems to oscillate between the reason for her TIP scumread being that and him derailing her line of questioning (which she herself pretty much did?). So not liking her at the point Im at.

TIP seems townish to me, but I'll admit that read is mostly gut at this point in that he feels like he didn in 2.5 friends and Im not seeing the pointed, direct TIP that was scum in Venny's game.

RC is scum independent of alignment

[Angry Frat BROs]

The RB claim was obviously from scum the instant BS flipped, so eh. /waffles.

Seriously, wth. You lynched STUBBSKVM over the Mafia Roleblocker. I was even helping throw him under the bud for you

[MC Maraca]

The RB claim was obviously from scum the instant BS flipped, so eh. /waffles.

Seriously, wth. You lynched STUBBSKVM over the Mafia Roleblocker. I was even helping throw him under the bud for you

Rub rub rub it innnnnnnnnn~

[Angry Frat BROs]

^Speaking of Mafia aligned Roleblockers. Cabd are you a mafia aligned roleblocker this game?

Also, what is your read on Sangres?

[Toomai]

I like AFB's overall presence so far.

caledfwitch needs to do something.

[MC Maraca]

I don't like MVP. Weird vibes.

AngryFratBoys is scum.

I hate cats.

U just jelly.

Your discounting of my yessiree meta/read.

I thought it was purple's?

She's my partner. And I don't disagree with her read, with my own research. So yeah, it's half my read now too. Is that a problem for you?

Your knowledge of ffery clearly predates AMOL and NY165.

This is officially the NY 167 mafia drinking game.
Rules

1) Take a shot every time Cabd mentions AMOL.
2) Take a shot every time Guyett drunk hammers.
3) Take a shot every time ffery calls me scum but doesnt vote me.

AMOL AMOL AMOL AMOL AMOL AMOL AMOL
There, now all ya'll are dead or wasted, town wins with me the only surivior. The end.

Your discounting of my yessiree meta/read.

Then explain.

Any time you're ready, I want to walk through this.

You look at things I don't. I look at things you don't. Let's play a game where I laugh at your feeble attempts to figure out what I see that you don't.

Or i'll write it up later

Curiously, the Large Normal is technically allowed up to two non-Normal Roles iirc.

This is correct but if you use them to make a broken role (*glares at peregrine's white mage*) I will hate you forever and kill your cats.

It was not broken, it was beautiful!

No. That role was horribad.

Oh, also, my setup-dar is broken.
How many scums are we expecting in 17 players game?

-L. J.

4 in a 16, the plus cause mod loves town, or he threw in an SK.

Actually, 4 in 17 is more standard than 4 in 16. You can infer single faction here, because starting off on odds means that barring vig shots/missed nightkills/

hidden white mage SK

the game will stay on odds into lylo if it comes to that. Red wedding is a good example of that.

Curiously, the Large Normal is technically allowed up to two non-Normal Roles iirc.

This is correct but if you use them to make a broken role (*glares at peregrine's white mage*) I will hate you forever and kill your cats.

It was not broken, it was beautiful!

That game was balanced around me getting confirmed town White Mages lynched, : P

+1

that game :/

That game will haunt you to the end. On your deathbed your last regret will be that stubbs lynch. Or letting 3k shoot orcinus. Or both.

Ugh can I just townread Cabd so I can ignore his quote strip walls?

You have my permission!

Pretty sure I've never played a game with town-you, so

Having not played with me-town before matters, because?

I wasn't trolling, I was opening a dialogue. You are a strong town player, I want you close regardless. What are your thoughts on Cabd? Also tell Nacho to get his ass in here.

It matters because I have a hell of a scum-AP model, and although not fitting a one-sided model well is nice, and actually works sometimes, it's a shaky starting place.

My thoughts on Cabd are that the meta threads he dumped in the game need some explanation or walk-through because it's not obvious to me how they point to Yesseree's game being way off his town meta. However, I do like that he didn't jump to explicate them before I went through them for myself. But, Cabd knows Nacho's onto him regarding too much collaboration in me developing meta reads.

Nacho's laptop was stolen this weekend. I probably won't hear much from him for a few days, but I'll let him know you're thinking of him.

Please don't make me sad and tell me you think scum-me couldn't move past nacho-town's scum model of me.

Uh, your scumvibe on me in goonies was purely based on me aggressively shoving a slot you knew to be town (yours). So if I ha called you scum and voted you here, that would be scummy on me? And in NY 165 I was just kind of loud scum cause I figured I could get a way with it. Not sure where Im going with this tbh, I'm in this game. You seem less paranoid about me than you should. Like you are TELLING me that you are, but Im not feeling the paranoia. Eh.

Cabd was town in a game I modded offsite. Other than that, no I havent played with him as town.

Also while I have you hear, quick thoughts for me on:

Dr. Jekyll, Sakura, TIP, RC?

Fuck you for that posting restriction. Of yellow fever. Or the black plague. Or gang-greeeeeeeeen.

Cabd was town in a game I modded offsite.

And I remember thinking he was a strong town player. The scumteam did as well and actually killed him on N1 even though it sorta doomed a member of theirs because of Cabd's flip.

My fault for being the only sane man in that day one derptown.

Not seeing scum tip yet btw
Caled could well be scum... I'll have to reread lucid dreamers

Congrats! You've figured out tippy, and it only took you like five more pages than the cool kids to do it!

^Speaking of Mafia aligned Roleblockers. Cabd are you a mafia aligned roleblocker this game?

Also, what is your read on Sangres?

Did I call nacho a raving bisexual this game? Guess not. Must be something lame then.

Ffery is my blind spot, I just treat her as town until near the end of day one and then sort her from there. I'd attempt to read nacho, but fuck laptop thieves.

[Angry Frat BROs]

I like AFB's overall presence so far.

caledfwitch needs to do something.

There's a lot of people here who need to so something.

Especially the scum. Other than RC, none of the posters more prolific than the mod have pinged.

[Angry Frat BROs]

Fuck you for that posting restriction. Of yellow fever. Or the black plague. Or gang-greeeeeeeeen.

[Angry Frat BROs]

My fault for being the only sane man in that day one derptown.

I can't remember where you stood on the D1 lynch, but I remember the town frothing to mislynch that dave88? guy. I was reading along and shaking my head at how obvtown he was, he was just a lurkaderp.

DarthPika has the highest pretention/skill ration I have ever seen in mafia. He was shoving that one iirc. I could be wrong, about that tidbit but still.

Who are you looking at other than Yesiree? Haven't quite caught up to your case therefore yet.

[sangres]

What do you associate with Jekyll's scum game? I see its a hydra, havent cared to learn their identity. I see a lot of weak opinions and posts that look nervous from that slot. I didn't like their interactions with MVP at all.

Jekyll tends to look way more self assured as scum than his town game appears, though I think he's been working on changing up his town game.

I think it's an alt, not a hydra.

[sangres]

You look at things I don't. I look at things you don't. Let's play a game where I laugh at your feeble attempts to figure out what I see that you don't.

Or i'll write it up later

I'm ok with skipping right to you write it up later.

Please don't make me sad and tell me you think scum-me couldn't move past nacho-town's scum model of me.

p sure I just strongly implied that you have moved past that piece of Nacho's scum-Cabd's model, since you know about it.

[caledfwitch]

Sorry I haven't posted, I've never played a large game and its kind of hard to follow. Will try to post something later.

[MVP]

She's my partner. And I don't disagree with her read, with my own research. So yeah, it's half my read now too. Is that a problem for you?

Nah.
Just a bit awkward in my mind.

-L. J.

[MVP]

Note to self:
- Check ffery's town-hydra games
- Look for the passiveness/involveness in those games
- Think a little if those said symptoms are because of the lack of synchronizing with nacho

-L. J.

[Sakura Hana]

Back for now, prod-doding for the time being because i dont have time to read and i dont want a prod to catch me at work tomorrow.

[TheIrishPope]

I'm not scuuuuum gawd
Guyett, yessiree, caled, do you wanna post content or...?
MVP why focus on Sangres?
Pidgeon stop being so cocky and post some reads will you?

[PeregrineV]

I'm not scuuuuum gawd
Guyett, yessiree, caled, do you wanna post content or...?
MVP why focus on Sangres?
Pidgeon stop being so cocky and post some reads will you?

You should vote Guyett. That will make you look more town when he flips scum.

[Angry Frat BROs]

I'm not scuuuuum gawd
Guyett, yessiree, caled, do you wanna post content or...?
MVP why focus on Sangres?
Pidgeon stop being so cocky and post some reads will you?

AP's been posting content and interacting and shit.

I'm the one who's being cocky ^_^

It's hard to get scumreads when scum aren't posting :/