Mafia 60: Face-to-Face - Game over!

[Mr Stoofer]

Vote Count

Thesp: 5 (ChannelDelibird Cogito Ergo Sum Adele Mgm Glork)
Ether: 3 (MrBuddyLee Nightfall Thesp)
Mgm: 2 (Patrick Zindaras)
Adele: 1 (Fritzler)
Nightfall : 1 (Ether)

Not voting: Mr Stoofer

Looking for 7 votes for a lynch!

19 hours and 3 minutes until deadline!

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

Huh? I never did think Thesp was a mason.

I see. I just remembered you saying you wouldn't even vote for Thesp to avoid a no lynch, so I figured the two might be connected. Looking back, it seems that had more to do with your suspicions of Mgm and Adele though.

[Thesp]

Guys, Thesp is a terrible lynch. Seriously.

So is Adele. (obv)

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

Confess and die with grace and dignity, scumbag. This does not suit you.

[MrBuddyLee]

Looking at where all the votes are at the moment, and assuming Adele is cop, Thesp's stock goes down, my vote on Ether gives me less confidence, and Zindaras looks more appealing as a suspect. If we had five days to make this decision, I think I'd switch my vote to Zindaras, but with only a few hours til deadline I'm rooting for a stampede to Ether. Tough call, but I'm going to roll with the hypothesis that she's scum trying to coast by on appearances alone and pluck at the eyeballs of the weak sheep in the flock. Her ho-hum assault on Nightfall is the clincher--read it yourselves and see if it leaves an aggressive scumhunting aftertaste on your palate.

If Thesp gets lynched and turns up town, I think it's fairly clear who gets run up tomorrow. If he's scum, I think Zindy and Glork have some splainin to do. I suppose I will as well, to a lesser extent.

I'll try to post again before deadline--there's a lot to process in light of the two possible confirmed innocents. Everyone please weigh in.

Adele, why didn't you investigate Thesp last night?

[Thesp]

I would have thought CES or Fritzler would make better investigatees, as it's tough to get reads on either. However, MGM wasn't a bad choice, per se.

If Thesp gets lynched and turns up town, I think it's fairly clear who gets run up tomorrow.

Really? I think it's far from clear. (Besides CDB, of course, who's quiet again.)

If he's scum, I think Zindy and Glork have some splainin to do.

Why in the world would you think that re: Glork? His last vote is all but putting the nail in my coffin.

Patrick and Zindaras better move their votes before the deadline. Fritz too.

[Glork]

I'm not sure why you'd think that either. (Although I don't like Thesp's defending me... trying to link himself to me before he goes down? Possibly.) I already stated why I shifted from Thesp to Adele/MGM. When I was going after Thesp and suddenly the both of them just jumped aboard saying little more than "Thesp is scummy!", I got alarmed. That kind of wagon usually causes me to step back and change directions.

[MrBuddyLee]

I could probably be persuaded to move to Thesp if I don't get my way, though.

Since that initial list has posted, MGM/Adele have risen to the top of my list. My Ether suspicion is in something of a stasis, and Thesp/CDB have slipped a bit.

Right now, I don't plan on moving to Thesp unless we get another deadline and we need a lynch on somebody.

Guys, I don't think Thesp is the play.

I want MGM or Adele killed dead today. Period. I'm at the point where I don't think I'd even support a Thespwagon for the sake of attaining a lynch. If we have to NL, so be it.

A lot of interest in the Thesp topic and yet somewhat uncharacteristic waffling.

I also think Glork has been particularly gentlemanly towards Ether despite her exhibiting the kind of play that he typically goes after aggressively.

Plus, he hasn't called me stupid yet this game, which is a very bad sign imo.

[Glork]

Pah. You're trying awfully hard to get me to call you stupid.

There's no "waffling" in my opinion of Thesp. It's a gradual and very steady move towards not thinking he was scum. The more I saw from Adele/MGM, the worse I thought they seemed. Consequently, as both of them were double-teaming Thesp, I began to wonder what was going on. It seemed like one or both of them were scum, with Thesp being thrown down as the poor victim. Go back and look at the core of the wagon against them and try to tell me that there wasn't substantial reason to be suspicious of Adele and MGM.

The reason I've focused so much on Thesp/Adele/MGM should be obvious, but apparently you can't see the trees for the forest. Those three constitute three of my top suspects, and have done so for pretty much the entire day. As I've already pointed out, when two people I suspect suddenly jump on a third one I suspect, it gets me wondering. So yes, this topic has pretty much absorbed my interest entirely... to the point where I think I even admitted not being sure what the whole Ether/Nightfall spat was about.

If I've waffled on anybody, it's been Ether (or Patrick). My meta towards her is still really screwed up. I'm still leaning towards "slightly scum" at this point, but I would rather be looking elsewhere right now. If Thesp turns out pro-town and Adele/MGM check out, CDB and Ether will be right back at the top of my list, most likely.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

Patrick and Zindaras should vote for Thesp. Honest.

[Zindaras]

>.<

Unvote, Vote: Thesp

Need lynch. Believe Adele's claim. Should've gone with my gut after all. A doc's still possible, but he just wouldn't have protected voidybuns last night.

[MrBuddyLee]

I understand that, Glork, it's just that your stated shifts in opinion look out of proportion to evidence at hand. Pretty radical shifts, and they look potentially opportunistic based on the way the wind was blowing at the time.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

Hey MrBuddyLee, why don't you hammah Thesp?

[Glork]

See, I think by "opportunistic," you mean "perfectly sensible."



Just sayin'.

[Thesp]

I'm not sure why you'd think that either. (Although I don't like Thesp's defending me... trying to link himself to me before he goes down? Possibly.)

I'd only be defending you if I were scum. How in the world are you making sense here?

I also think Glork has been particularly gentlemanly towards Ether despite her exhibiting the kind of play that he typically goes after aggressively.

Interesting.

The more I saw from Adele/MGM, the worse I thought they seemed. Consequently, as both of them were double-teaming Thesp, I began to wonder what was going on.

Why overlook the possibility that we're all town? Also, what do you think of CDB? You keep saying he's one of your suspects, but continue to give him no substantive pressure.

Hey MrBuddyLee, why don't you hammah Thesp?

It appears I'm to be lynched by deadline, why hammer?

[Patrick]

Decisions. Decisions.

Looking at MBL's post 829, I agree with the first paragraph, disagree with the second.

Still not wild about a Thesp lynch, and pondering how disasterous no lynching would be with an even number. It would make a roleblocker less useful I suppose. Ether and Zindaras definitely need looking at more tomorrow. Both lurking more than usual. Zindaras feels like he's always changing his mind and then providing poor reasons for it, or just saying it's gut feeling. I don't particularly feel like he has the thought process, then changes his suspicions, more the other way round; he changes his suspicions then tags something on to justify it. It doesn't feel natural. If it wasn't obvious, I didn't like his attack on me at all, and noticed he's still not provided any examples of what he's accused me of.

I'll be around again before the deadline.

[Patrick]

Also, to clear up any confusion, no majority at deadline means no lynch.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

It appears I'm to be lynched by deadline, why hammer?

I'm going to take this as a confession. I didn't expect you to sink this low, Thesp.

[Thesp]

Also, to clear up any confusion, no majority at deadline means no lynch.

Thanks.

Also, CES, how about some real thoughts? What do you think about CDB?

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

Well, you've expressed suspicion of CDB quite often and it doesn't feel like distancing to me, so I consider him slightly pro-townish looking. Other than that though, CDB's been lurking, a slight scum tell in his case I'd say, but there's nothing in his posts that makes alarm bells go off.

I would also consider my last post to constitute "real thoughts". Spreading blatant falsehoods to try and avoid getting lynched is low, Thesp. I mean, Stoofer's deadline policy is clearly stated on the front page.

[Thesp]

Really? What do you think of his exhibited tendency to fall in with a bad wagon and remain silent?

(For what it's worth, I'd pointed out to CDB he hadn't put substantive pressure on CES for doing things he accused me of doing, to which he's not yet responded. Stupid, stupid deadline.)

[Thesp]

Also note that ChannelDelibird has been

incredibly

active on the site other than this game.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

Lurking and wagonning go side by side, in my experience. So, as I said, slight scum tell.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

Also note that ChannelDelibird has been

incredibly

active on the site other than this game.

Nah, certainly not. I think he's been more active elsewhere, yes, but certainly not to that extent, crazy Thesp.

[Adele]

Adele, why didn't you investigate Thesp last night?

mgm seemed a sensible pick because directly before the hammah, he was on the third most votes, after the lynch victim and vig victim.