Mini 388: DOOMsville II {Game Over!}


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Post Post #825 (ISO) » Wed Mar 07, 2007 9:49 pm

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kilmenator wrote:If turbo is cleared I will be the next lynch
If you truly knew yourself as innocent, then there's no way you'd propose lynching yourself when we'd be quickly running out of time to determine if ShadowLurker was lying scum, or naive.

But you're not innocent, are you?

Vote: kilmenator

Vote: kilmenator


That's lynch.
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Post Post #826 (ISO) » Thu Mar 08, 2007 5:42 am

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Wait wait wait, that's only three votes if my count's correct. And I ain't hammering at this point, because all three of those kil votes look super-sketchy.

Adele: "you wanna be lynched? you got it."
SL: "you guys are asking me to participate and help you discern my alignment? ok, lemme quickvote with no useful comment."
turbo: "we're not in a hurry! *turbovotes*"

Kil, I don't think you're dead quite yet. If you're town, it's the last chance to change minds.
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Post Post #827 (ISO) » Thu Mar 08, 2007 8:01 am

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As I have said, I am a pro-town tracker. I honestly believe that MBL is scum, but recently he has been seeming more pro-town to me with turbo looking more not so townish. If I am lynhed, and since I am town, be sure to look at those who are putting quick pressure on me. MBL has been consistent, but turbo and adele have not. The doc should save SL, and SL tomorrow should investigate MBL or turbo, whichever is cleared lynch the other.
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Post Post #828 (ISO) » Thu Mar 08, 2007 12:00 pm

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You suggested your own lynch, Kil. You can't exactly say "pls do such and such" and cry foul when people do so, plus "lynch me" is a tell.

MBL, it looks to me like Turbo's dropped a doublevote. I wouldn't be overly surprised, looking back; he's seemed to take care to always unvote when he changes votes (I don't recall if that's in the rules of this game tho)...

just in case he's gambitting,
unvote
. That was a suddenlynch.
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Post Post #829 (ISO) » Thu Mar 08, 2007 12:20 pm

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It's time for the final Vote Count of DOOM :twisted:

4 - kilmenator (Adele, ShadowLurker, Turbovolver, Turbovolver)

1 - MrBuddyLee (kilmenator)

Not Voting: Norinel, MrBuddyLee, geraintm


Another long day of discussion, another decision of the town to lynch someone. This time kilmenator is brought to the center of the town for everyone to see his DOOM...

And without any lynching fiascos, kilmenator's DOOMed fate has been sealed...

kilmenator, protown tracker, lynched Day 3

Role PM wrote:You are the Tracker. Every night you may choose to track someone and see who that person targeted
It is now Night 3, choices due at 8PM EST on Monday, March 12th, 2007
The end justifies the means.
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Post Post #830 (ISO) » Sat Mar 10, 2007 4:33 pm

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After another long night, everyone gathers in the center of the town and see if anyone was DOOMed last night. After a thorough head count, everyone realizes that nobody was dead yet again… Which means there are still 6 of you alive…

It is now Day 4, with 6 alive it takes 4 to lynch!
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Post Post #831 (ISO) » Sat Mar 10, 2007 6:13 pm

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What does everyone think about a scum group not being able to nightkill at all, but only daykill. I've sent in my investigation of MBL as I'm almost positive he's the last scum.

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Post Post #832 (ISO) » Sat Mar 10, 2007 6:21 pm

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Well, anyone ready for a daykill? I suppose we should do an investigation first and then see what we learn. If there's any kind of quicklynch and I die or something, my advice is to look at Norinel tomorrow.
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Post Post #833 (ISO) » Sun Mar 11, 2007 12:10 am

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And yeah, I'm not daykilling scum. If I was, I'd just whack SL right now before he gets a chance to report his results.
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Post Post #834 (ISO) » Sun Mar 11, 2007 12:13 am

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LOL. Depending on who logs in before M-M does, we could be in for some seriously funny shit right about now.
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Post Post #835 (ISO) » Sun Mar 11, 2007 1:17 am

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Hi. Yeah, I'm not voting as yet; wait on SL's result and MBL's proof, then take them both into acocunt.
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Post Post #836 (ISO) » Sun Mar 11, 2007 5:29 am

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suck... lynched with no puter...
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Post Post #837 (ISO) » Sun Mar 11, 2007 10:35 pm

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ShadowLurker wrote:What does everyone think about a scum group not being able to nightkill at all, but only daykill. I've sent in my investigation of MBL as I'm almost positive he's the last scum.

Vote MBL

Why vote before you get your result back?

And i put forward the day killing scum thing before, but bird's role was night based, Patrick's role was night based, klebian's role was night based and Kilm's role was night based.
It would seem odd that every town role was night based, but the mafia was skulking around in the day.

Though Mert as godfather didn't say when they killed...
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Post Post #838 (ISO) » Mon Mar 12, 2007 1:45 pm

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geraintm wrote:Though Mert as godfather didn't say when they killed...
Don't think that means anything.

I wanna see MBL daykill ShadowLurker.
We wait for a result in case ShadowLurker is telling the truth, though I think it's likely he's not.

If it turns out that ShadowLurker is telling the truth, then MBL = daykilling scum is the best explanation IMO.
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Post Post #839 (ISO) » Mon Mar 12, 2007 3:51 pm

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MM's logged in since Sunday, so we should expect a result from SL when he next logs in...

--drums fingers--
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Post Post #840 (ISO) » Mon Mar 12, 2007 6:01 pm

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MBL is guilty.

MBL can daykill me, then we can lynch him.
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Post Post #841 (ISO) » Mon Mar 12, 2007 9:25 pm

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Yeah, I figured that was coming. Good news for town though:

I'm not the daykiller.


I'm a nighttime-only vigilante. As I was about to get drilled yesterday, I claimed the daykills in an effort to draw out the actual daykiller, who is an SK. My reasoning was that if I claimed daykiller, I'd be able to tell via the reactions of each of you which one is the SK.

If you guys lynch me today, you will realize I am not the SK. You may or may not get enough evidence to realize that I'm not responsible for the daykills, but regardless, here's what I learned via my gambit yesterday.

Norinel had by far the most curious reaction to my lie. Mind you, no townie should have ANY reason to doubt me when I claim to be the daykiller.
Norinel wrote:To me, MBL's claim hurt his case more than helped it. The paranoid part of me wants to see all of his daykill speculation as a pretty nice setup to make sure nobody was going to counterclaim, if he weren't really the one killing.
Norinel wrote:A lynch on MBL will give a lot of information on the killing group dynamic, which we still don't know about for sure, and probably a decent amount of daygame stuff from today. If there is an SK (Whether it's MBL, someone else doing the daykills, or something completely different), giving two killing groups another day when we don't even know what's out there starts to hurt right about now.
It's abundantly clear that Norinel didn't believe my daykiller claim because he has inside info because he IS the daykiller SK.

So the only conclusion I can draw at this point is that SL is scum and Norinel is the SK.

And yeah, I can't daykill, so I'll have to just go down in flames if you guys decide that's the smart play right now. But the game won't be over, you'll probably be down to 4 tomorrow, with two scum. It'll be blatantly obvious at that point who the last two scum are, and I'd need to think it through to see what kind of dealmaking could take place at that point.

I fully expected Norinel to daykill me before I got a chance to make this post. He probably won't be happy that he missed the opportunity. I hope you can understand why I made this play--as a "confirmed innocent" it appeared Norinel was going to skate to victory, and now at least he's on your radar.

Oh, and if there's any doubt in your mind about whether or not I'm lying about this, read my explanations for why I "daykilled" Ozy and Patrick. They're absolutely terrible and a complete stretch, which is 100% out of character for me. Because I didn't commit those atrocities and I had to grasp at 1000 straws to come up with any freaking reason that remotely made sense so I could avoid lynch and sucker the SK out of hiding.

And if he's a daykilling SK, I should be dead any minute now. Or at least that's what I initially expected was on the way, but actually that would give his identity away so he won't. If he doesn't kill me, he's trying to lay low and pretend the daykiller's dead once you lynch me. Just remember my warning--he's your daykiller so don't forget about him.
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Post Post #842 (ISO) » Mon Mar 12, 2007 9:33 pm

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Or he could off me and claim vig. But he said plainly yesterday he wasn't a vig so meh, you'd be back in a similar situation to which you were with me.
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Post Post #843 (ISO) » Mon Mar 12, 2007 10:22 pm

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MBL, is there anything you have written during the game that had a shred of truth to it?
Why would you have come up as scum if you are a vigilante?
Why would you come up scum but Norinel, who you are claiming to be the day equivalent of yourself, come up town?

Turbo, can you explain what your double vote thing was?
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Post Post #844 (ISO) » Mon Mar 12, 2007 10:28 pm

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I really don't expect you to trust me over the claimed cop about the alignment thing, all I've really been trying to accomplish the last day and a half is to find us the daykilling SK. Which I have, and I can answer questions from here on out but I think you should hear from a few other people first.
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Post Post #845 (ISO) » Tue Mar 13, 2007 1:32 am

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Wow, MBL, you're so totally a liar. "It was a gambit lie to find something out"=not a good enough excuse.

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Post Post #846 (ISO) » Tue Mar 13, 2007 4:43 am

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btw adele is my #2 sk pic but you wont get that many tries.
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Post Post #847 (ISO) » Tue Mar 13, 2007 6:06 am

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The odd thing was that I originally thought Norinel was the daykiller based on my read at the time I made that post.

Although I now doubt that there's a "daykilling SK" as that would mean scum would have to kill at night and that we've had 3 successful kill preventions which doesn't seem likely at all.
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Post Post #848 (ISO) » Tue Mar 13, 2007 7:27 am

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Well, none of my nightvig attempts have gone through, so someone's doing their job. I tried to vig Norinel last night and it didn't work, so either he's unnightkillable or for some reason someone protected him.
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Post Post #849 (ISO) » Tue Mar 13, 2007 12:23 pm

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OK, so...

MBL is the daykiller:
He's lying so he doesn't have to kill SL and get confirmed as guilty, most likely losing him the game.

MBL is not the daykiller:
His earlier claim was a complete lie (and very risky, making this option seem unlikely). I think his reasoning is pretty good against Norinel, but only after you assume that MBL is not the daykiller himself. Given the series of convoluted stories MBL has been spinning, he's still probably some flavour of scum.


Given this about face from MBL, I see no reason not to believe he is scum.

Vote: MBL

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