I don't have a clue what ns is going to say. And I do value other people's opinions. Are you worried?In post 546, Hiraki wrote:Are you asking this because you know what you're going to hear?
Open 530 "WSoB" (Stack the Deck): GAME OVER
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NS and I are not the best of friends and I have a good hunch that you are aware of this.In post 550, Brian Skies wrote:
I don't have a clue what ns is going to say. And I do value other people's opinions. Are you worried?In post 546, Hiraki wrote:Are you asking this because you know what you're going to hear?-
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I wasn't aware of it so I don't see why you'd expect him to be?-
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Yes we are stop lyingIn post 551, Hiraki wrote:
NS and I are not the best of friends and I have a good hunch that you are aware of this.In post 550, Brian Skies wrote:
I don't have a clue what ns is going to say. And I do value other people's opinions. Are you worried?In post 546, Hiraki wrote:Are you asking this because you know what you're going to hear?-
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DP is sick, so you are stuck with me. <3In post 534, notscience wrote:Eagle go yell at your other head to get in here I need to talk to him about Sak
Trying to line up lynches, huh?In post 546, Hiraki wrote:
Are you asking this because you know what you're going to hear?In post 542, Brian Skies wrote:Tell me about Hiraki, ns. The slot feels hollow to me. And how familiar are you with all the players in this game?
In post 543, Ankamius wrote:This explanation only makes it look worse, since I see town coming to this conclusion and clearing the air while initially seeing the case rather than after everything happens. At the very least, the thought process would be more obvious instead of just "OH WAIT ALSO META".You are spared one night, notscience.
Unvote, Vote: Aduskkel
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Wassup ns.
I thought you were "metashifting". I dont see that now for some reason. Based on your posting, normally I'd call you town, because this is how you are as town. More trolly. BUT I'm kinda worried that youre using this as a crutch, especially since you've supposedly "meta shifted".
Im actually surprised you didnt immediately vote for ETL though, after calling her scum in your second post.
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What does this have to do with reading people? I like ns, and I still can't read him worth a damn.In post 551, Hiraki wrote:
NS and I are not the best of friends and I have a good hunch that you are aware of this.In post 550, Brian Skies wrote:
I don't have a clue what ns is going to say. And I do value other people's opinions. Are you worried?In post 546, Hiraki wrote:Are you asking this because you know what you're going to hear?-
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I am metashifting but I need time to submerge before I do so.In post 558, DoctorEagle wrote:Wassup ns.
I thought you were "metashifting". I dont see that now for some reason. Based on your posting, normally I'd call you town, because this is how you are as town. More trolly. BUT I'm kinda worried that youre using this as a crutch, especially since you've supposedly "meta shifted".
Im actually surprised you didnt immediately vote for ETL though, after calling her scum in your second post.
Sakura, I will answer your questions after catching up
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466 Brian, this is a huge LIE. You voted him right AFTER he voted for Anakimus, not his reaction to the wagon. Besides, when has voting for a self voter been scummy?
I dont see TNE scum actually, and right now I have an ns townread. The TNE scum thing seems to stem from Inactivity, which TNE being an Engineering student and a chronic replacee, I understand. None of it is alignment indicative.
If you had thought a vote on Ank would lead to a wagon on you, why do it anyway? To gauge reactions? If so, why vote for the next person to do so?
467 Brian, the point is, Im having a hard time understanding why you cant understand a wagon yet also agree with it. Its like saying "I don't think she's scum but I'll agree with it so I WONT be accountable if something goes wrong"
Note two things. First, I already pointed out that Venrob's vote on 21 directly led to your vote on 23, and VA voted for him in 22.
You voted for Venrob not for the reasons you stated, dont make yourself look good when you obviously just voted him because WAGON. Second, I emphasized that you were either tunneling or discrediting, I had two points there and was leaning towards discrediting, which you ignored. The issue with you tunneling is that youre nitpicking everything he says, which I felt in this case was more of a discredit.
477 Sakura, you flip flop a lot. Does it make it not scummy? Its always easy to excuse a scummy action as "Its not alignment indicative, especially when the action is self preservationist in nature. How so? Because I've mentioned you're going for any viable wagon, because you know that youre a viable wagon for many people here. Thus youre going to others to prevent yours from going through.
Your response to my 463 was bad.
1. Youre using my INACTIVITY to call me scummy, even when general inactivity isn't even a scumtell in itself (and maybe the prods on a HYDRA should indicate that neither of us were lurking or avoiding, just not reading maybe because of Real Life), but the fact that you claim Im scared to answer your questions is bad.
2. This is clearly a LIE. You claimed baldeagle's vote was scummy because I didn't vote for you, when clearly its hydra dissonance. When hydra dissonance isn't scummy in itself, it feels like you've run out of things to throw so you reach out for the kitchen sink and call scum on (or at least point out and discredit) AN ACTION WE'VE DONE OURSELVES AND AN ACTION DONE IN EVERY HYDRA.
479 Hiraki. Why an NL on Day 2?
481 Aldus, its not town behavior, but its not scummy either actually. It could be feigned scum ignorance though, but I don't think I've ever seen that actually been played.
491 Grasping. At. Straws. How is it a scum slip when someone brings up a day action and a night phase?
545 i don't understand the train of thought with this vote.
559 I can (usually) read ns like a book.
Stahp it BE
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So are you willing to get lynched tomorrow after I flip town?In post 561, DoctorEagle wrote:Sakura, you flip flop a lot. Does it make it not scummy? Its always easy to excuse a scummy action as "Its not alignment indicative, especially when the action is self preservationist in nature. How so? Because I've mentioned you're going for any viable wagon, because you know that youre a viable wagon for many people here. Thus youre going to others to prevent yours from going through.I bloom in spring?
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In post 563, DoctorEagle wrote:Actually, I don't think you've ever misread me when I was scum.-
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It's the fencesitty and cautious way he's trying to put pressure on FTL, then later going more for it with something incredibly irrelevant to pretty much anything.
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Okay, first of all, you need to read this game more thoroughly. Unless you're scum - in which case, I can just push your lynch with impunity for misrepping me.
I never lied about the Venrob thing. You're right, I did vote Venrob RIGHT after Venrob voted for Ankamius. But I never called him scum for voting a self-voter. I called Venrob scum for the way he was pushing the wagon and his attempt at towncred after garnering pressure. His reactions didn't read as town to me, so I pushed him for it.In post 561, DoctorEagle wrote:466 Brian, this is a huge LIE. You voted him right AFTER he voted for Anakimus, not his reaction to the wagon. Besides, when has voting for a self voter been scummy?
I don't understand what the TNE thing has to do with anything. I already provided my case. Just because you know TNE doesn't mean I do. And regarding inactivity, I did give VA a townread earlier based on Va's actions. So no, I wasn't voting TNE based on inactivity. I was voting TNE based on his actions. Also, your ns townread point is moot. I already unvoted him, so why bring that up?In post 561, DoctorEagle wrote:466I dont see TNE scum actually, and right now I have an ns townread. The TNE scum thing seems to stem from Inactivity, which TNE being an Engineering student and a chronic replacee, I understand. None of it is alignment indicative.
Yes, I did vote Ank to gauge reactions. Ank responded in kind. Venrob voted Ank instead of me, so I decided to test reactions from him. He failed, so I pushed him.In post 561, DoctorEagle wrote:If you had thought a vote on Ank would lead to a wagon on you, why do it anyway? To gauge reactions? If so, why vote for the next person to do so?
You're right. And I just explained this point. I was testing Venrob's reaction after Ank already have me his.In post 561, DoctorEagle wrote:Note two things. First, I already pointed out that Venrob's vote on 21 directly led to your vote on 23, and VA voted for him in 22.
My vote on Venrob was for a wagon. My push was for a scumread.In post 561, DoctorEagle wrote:You voted for Venrob not for the reasons you stated, dont make yourself look good when you obviously just voted him because WAGON.
I'm a tunneler. It's not alignment indicative.In post 561, DoctorEagle wrote:Second, I emphasized that you were either tunneling or discrediting, I had two points there and was leaning towards discrediting, which you ignored. The issue with you tunneling is that youre nitpicking everything he says, which I felt in this case was more of a discredit.
As for discrediting, explain.
I've already explained this during my conversation with Pieguyn. This leads me to think you're either not reading, or you're trying to misrep me.In post 561, DoctorEagle wrote:467 Brian, the point is, Im having a hard time understanding why you cant understand a wagon yet also agree with it. Its like saying "I don't think she's scum but I'll agree with it so I WONT be accountable if something goes wrong"
I didn't understand why the wagon formed (explained in conversation with Pieguyn). And I DID re-read the thread to figure it out.
Congratulations. Do you want a cookie?In post 561, DoctorEagle wrote:559 I can (usually) read ns like a book.-
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I want a cookie
someone give me a reason to stop being apathetic
or just tell me who to sheepIf you don't know how to lie, then how do you know when you're being lied to?
No snowflake in an avalanche ever feels responsible.now playing:
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In post 568, InflatablePie wrote:I want a cookie
someone give me a reason to stop being apathetic
or just tell me who to sheep
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don't tell me what to do you're not my mom
also I thought I was voting her alreadyIf you don't know how to lie, then how do you know when you're being lied to?
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Vote Count 2.7
10 alive, 6 to lynch
Hiraki (2): Alduskkel, Brian Skies
Alduskkel (2): Ankamius, Hiraki
EspeciallyTheLies (2): InflatablePie, notscience
Sakura Hana (2): EspeciallyTheLies, DoctorEagle
Not Voting: JacobSavage, Sakura Hana
Prodding: EspeciallyTheLies, who is now just back from V/LA.
Deadline: October 15, 9 PM EDT ((expired on 2013-10-15 21:00:00)). No Lynch occurs if this elapses!yabbaguy ~ Winning without actually winning.
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So, people come in, say they will do something, and then don't do anything. If you are in other games, this game needs to climb higher on your game-priority list. We have less than two days left, and having another deadline scramble is unacceptable considering how the last day ended. We also have 4 wagons.
@ns: Can you explain the ETL scum-virus thing?
@DE: Same question as above.
@Ank: You're in nulltown-possible scum territory and I'm having difficulty reading you. Do you have any reads and reasoning to back up those reads?
I should be commenting on other things, but I don't have time to do a re-read right now. These are just the things off the top of my head that I find important right now. I also want to see this Sakura-DP dance that never happened (but DP's health is more important to me, so don't force anything).-
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