Fritzler wrote:anyone want to run up adele so thesp isn't lynched?
im looking at you thesp
I'd go for Adele over me.
MrBuddyLee wrote:CES and Thesp, you never REALLY answered my question, so I'll restate: how do you see Thesp D1 and CES D2 behavior differing?
Sorry, I missed it then. I gave reasons for my votes on Patrick. I would recommend you review CES's approach to my lynching. While they equate in fervor, they differ in substance.
ChannelDelibird wrote:Town should not be calling for someone to die so repeatedly and vehemently on such a lack of basis.
What do you think of Cogito Ergo Sum? A cursory scan of your posts shows no substantive pressure on him, yet his activity in the thread would epitomize the idea you're putting forth here to attack me.
Further FOS: ChannelDelibird.
ChannelDelibird wrote:Thesp wrote:Why are scum more likely to be adamant and vocal? My experience has been the opposite, particularly because scum know the particular wagon-victim is town, want to push it along, but don't want to be associated too strongly with it. Your behavior D1 is consistent with this.
"I wouldn't do that as scum" = WIFOM.
You need to be taken to task for this. You are unfairly using the brand WIFOM with little actual basis.
Let's examine the form of the argument here.
CDB: I think Thesp is more likely to be scum because he exhibits
A
.
Thesp: In my experience, scum are more likely to exhibit
~A
(Not-A), which I have seen
you
doing.
CDB: Thesp, you are using WIFOM, which is scummy.
I think this would be a fair characterization for your attack.
If this is the form for WIFOM
, WIFOM is useless to the point of absurdity. In the first, I am not using
A
as a defense, as I know fully well I could be deliberately countering known or perceived scum tendencies. (I've long thought defenses are largely overrated, much because of this possibility.) In the second, I am using it to attack you, as I believe you are exhibiting tendencies scum frequently exhibit. It is ludicrous to suggest that an attack on you so phrased is WIFOM. Consider the above example, substituting for A, the concept, "is named Thesp". (In my experience, I believe I have been scum less than statistically likely to be scum, so people who are not Thesp are more likely to be scum. Yes, it's a terrible argument, but look where I'm going:)
CDB: I think Thesp is more likely to be scum because he exhibits
being named Thesp
.
Thesp: In my experience, scum are more likely to exhibit
not being named Thesp
, which I have seen
you
doing.
CDB: Thesp, you are using WIFOM, which is scummy.
The form is clearly absurd. (Note that it doesn't terribly matter what
A
is, this is purely for examining whether or not WIFOM is used here.) What you are doing is taking a disagreement over what scum are more actually likely to do, and trying to pin it on me as WIFOM. You are looking for excuses to vote me rather than looking for who might be scum, and
that
is scummy.
I
so
wish I was a vig. Curse you, spectrumvoid, for wasting your shot on IH.
ChannelDelibird is exhibiting the classic characteristics of scum silently pushing terrible wagons, showing up only when called on. This must stop, and lynching him is the way to do it.
ChannelDelibird wrote:Fritzler only made 2 more posts than me on Day 1, and at least half of those were noncontent.
I have reviewed his posts, and agree that's a point against him. I still think he's town for other outweighing reasons that I don't care to divulge. Given that, it leaves you as the only other person I see who fits the description of "[jumping] on a bandwagon of a townie, then [contributing] nothing to continue the bandwagon nor anything to dissuade it". It's scummy to the core.
I understand the Ether and Adele hate, and would switch to either to save my own skin, but I continue to think ChannelDelibird is far and away the best lynch.
