NY 164: Maniacal Street Mafia (Anticlimatically finished.)

fferyllt · Post Post #2997 (isolation #0) » Sat Jun 01, 2013 7:33 am

1. Nope. I don't think she's lying.

And I don't see how you get that from what I've said

. As far as tunnelling, where? She has a scum read on you but I don't see her making shouty posts about how you need to eat rope now or anything. When she and I synch up today, my ISO impressions will be on the agenda.

2. Noted.

fferyllt · Post Post #5143 (isolation #1) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 6:36 am

That is L-1.

fferyllt · Post Post #6246 (isolation #2) » Fri Sep 27, 2013 11:20 am

In post 6243, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 6242, ffullisade wrote:Peregrine, this exchange is one of the main reasons why I don't believe that Nacho is red scum.

He voted Seanald before asking me this question. And asking me this question could have easily led to a resounding "yeah Seanald is scum" if he couldn't accurately predict what sort of meta takeaways I was using at the time. My takeaways are a work in progress and I doubt anybody could predict with much certainty how I would have answered that question when it was asked.

In post 4462, ffullisade wrote:
In post 4455, Nachomamma8 wrote:http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go

ffery, I read this game and I don't think Seanald is scum here.
Do you agree or am I reading too much into his approach?
The vengeball game is the only game that I've played with Seanald so I don't have a town baseline. His posts in this game are different though. Not as defeatest. More aggressive. More opinionated.

By nature, it seems that vengeball is intense and posture-y in some of the same ways as popcorn mafia, which leaves scum players with a limited and dangerous repertoire (from my perspective as someone who is terrible with scum roles). I am not sure how good a vengeball-informed scum baseline will be in pointing up scum behaviors in other games.

Do you think vengeball scum play generalizes to other games?

I'm not comfortable voting him today.
Sorry, I don't quite understand what you mean.

He voted Seanald before you answered, and also before you answered he was voting me 4458, so I'm missing your point.

In post 4475, AngryPidgeon wrote:
<<< Tempted as I am to just delete this post in favor of my own, I'll leave it in here and use it. >>>

One-Hundred-Sixth Votecount
:

(Thirty-Ninth Votecount of Day Three,
AKA, the "Synchronized Mod Activity" votecount.
)

Seanald - 6 (PeregrineV, ArcAngel9, ThAdmiral, Desperado, penguin_alien, Cephrir)

Nero Cain - 3 (CrashTextDummie, Kublai Khan, Bulbazak)

Bulbazak - 2 (Nero Cain, Human Destroyer)
Kublai Khan - 1 (Amethyst Kitty)
Rena - 1 (Slandaar)
Nachomamma8 - 1 (Bacde)
PeregrineV - 1 (Nachomamma8)

Not Voting - 3 (Seanald, Rena, ffullisade)

With
18
alive, it's
10
to lynch.

Day Three's deadline is Friday, July 5th, @ 2:30 PM PST, which is in (expired on 2013-07-05 14:30:00).

If deadline were to hit now,
Seanald
would be lynched.

Bulbazak is V/LA over weekends indefinitely.
The Malakittens half of the Amethyst Kitty hydra is V/LA until July 15th.
PeregrineV is V/LA until July 11th.
Human Destroyer is V/LA until Sunday, July 11th.
mastin2, the moderator, is V/LA for...a while.

Spoiler: Changes from last votecount
Nero Cain - 3 (
Nachomamma8
, CrashTextDummie,
Cephrir
, Kublai Khan,
penguin_alien
,
Bulbazak
)
Seanald - 6 (PeregrineV, ArcAngel9, ThAdmiral, Desperado,
Nachomamma8(1)
,
penguin_alien
,
Cephrir
)
Bulbazak - 2 (Nero Cain, Human Destroyer)
Kublai Khan - 1 (Amethyst Kitty)
Rena - 1 (Slandaar)
Nachomamma8 - 1 (Bacde)
PeregrineV - 1 (
Nachomamma8(2)
)

Not Voting - 3 (Seanald,
Bulbazak
, Rena, ffullisade)
Last votecount was page 178, post 4426.

Spoiler: Player Votecount History D3
CrashTextDummie: ThAdmiral->Nero Cain
Cephrir: Rena->ThAdmiral->penguin_alien->Amethyst Kitty->Seanald->Nero Cain->Seanald
Nachomamma8: ThAdmiral->Nero Cain->PeregrineV->Slandaar->Amethyst Kitty->ThAdmiral->Nero Cain->Seanald->PeregrineV
PeregrineV: Nachomamma8->Seanald
Nero Cain: Rena->Nachomamma8->Bulbazak
Bacde: Nachomamma8->Rena->Nachomamma8->Unvote->ThAdmiral->Seanald->Nachomamma8->Unvote->Nero Cain->Nachomamma8
Bulbazak: ffullisade->Bacde->Amethyst Kitty->Unvote->Nero Cain->Seanald->Unvote->Nero Cain
Desperado: ThAdmiral->Rena->ThAdmiral->Nero Cain->Amethyst Kitty->ThAdmiral->Seanald->Unvote->Amethyst Kitty->Nero Cain->Seanald
penguin_alien: ThAdmiral->Unvote->ThAdmiral->PeregrineV->Seanald->Nero Cain->Seanald
Slandaar: Amethyst Kitty->Rena->Desperado->ThAdmiral->Amethyst Kitty->PeregrineV->Seanald->Rena
Seanald: Rena->Cephrir->Amethyst Kitty->Unvote
ThAdmiral: Nachomamma8->Seanald
Rena: Bacde->Unvote
Kublai Khan: Bacde->Amethyst Kitty->Nero Cain
Amethyst Kitty: Seanald->Kublai Khan->Desperado->Kublai Khan
ffullisade: Rena->Unvote->Amethyst Kitty->Unvote->Amethyst Kitty->Nero Cain->Unvote
Human Destroyer: Rena->ThAdmiral->Bulbazak
ArcAngel9: Cephrir->Amethyst Kitty->Desperado->Seanald

Spoiler: Votecount History D3
On Mon, Jun 6/10/13 @ 02:30p,
Bacde
votes
Nachomamma8
in post 3367.
On Mon, Jun 6/10/13 @ 02:40p,
Nachomamma8
votes
ThAdmiral
in post 3375.
On Mon, Jun 6/10/13 @ 05:23p,
Nero Cain
votes
Rena
in post 3385.
On Mon, Jun 6/10/13 @ 06:01p,
Nachomamma8
votes
Nero Cain
in post 3388.
On Mon, Jun 6/10/13 @ 11:14p,
Kublai Khan
votes
Bacde
in post 3397.
On Tue, Jun 6/11/13 @ 04:18a,
Slandaar
votes
Amethyst Kitty
in post 3406.
On Tue, Jun 6/11/13 @ 08:55a,
Desperado
votes
ThAdmiral
in post 3417.
On Tue, Jun 6/11/13 @ 12:32p,
Bubazak
votes
ffullisade
in post 3432.
On Tue, Jun 6/11/13 @ 03:04p,
ArcAngel9
votes
Cephrir
in post 3444.
On Tue, Jun 6/11/13 @ 06:46p,
ffullisade
votes
Rena
in post 3462.
On Tue, Jun 6/11/13 @ 09:08p,
Seanald
votes
Rena
in post 3467.
On Wed, Jun 6/12/13 @ 11:07a,
Desperado
votes
Rena
in post 3489.
On Wed, Jun 6/12/13 @ 12:41p,
Bacde
votes
Rena
in post 3522.
On Wed, Jun 6/12/13 @ 01:45p,
Slandaar
votes
Rena
in post 3528.
On Wed, Jun 6/12/13 @ 02:15p,
Bulbazak
unvotes
ffullisade
and votes
Bacde
in post 3537.
On Wed, Jun 6/12/13 @ 02:42p,
ffullisade
unvotes
Rena
in post 3543.
On Wed, Jun 6/12/13 @ 03:04p,
Bacde
unvotes
Rena
and votes
Nachomamma8
in post 3548.
On Wed, Jun 6/12/13 @ 03:48p,
Nachomamma8
votes
PeregrineV
in post 3584.
On Wed, Jun 6/12/13 @ 03:49p,
Nachomamma8
votes
Slandaar
in post 3585.
On Wed, Jun 6/12/13 @ 03:50p,
Nachomamma8
votes
Amethyst Kitty
in post 3586.
On Wed, Jun 6/12/13 @ 06:07p,
Nero Cain
votes
Nachomamma8
in post 3623.
On Thu, Jun 6/13/13 @ 03:49a,
Slandaar
votes
Desperado
in post 3625.
On Thu, Jun 6/13/13 @ 10:02a,
Human Destroyer
votes
Rena
in post 3633.
On Fri, Jun 6/14/13 @ 10:06a,
Bacde
unvotes
Nachomamma8
in post 3671.
On Fri, Jun 6/14/13 @ 11:16a,
Desperado
unvotes
Rena
and votes
ThAdmiral
in post 3672.
On Fri, Jun 6/14/13 @ 11:30a,
Bacde
votes
ThAdmiral
in post 3673.
On Fri, Jun 6/14/13 @ 12:08p,
Slandaar
votes
ThAdmiral
in post 3678.
On Sat, Jun 6/15/13 @ 06:50a,
Cephrir
votes
ThAdmiral
in post 3711.
On Sat, Jun 6/15/13 @ 10:31p,
Seanald
unvotes
Rena
and votes
Cephrir
in post 3730.
On Sat, Jun 6/15/13 @ 11:17p,
Bacde
votes
Seanald
in post 3731.
On Sat, Jun 6/15/13 @ 11:59p,
Amethyst Kitty
votes
Seanald
in post 3732.
On Sun, Jun 6/16/13 @ 00:18a,
Amethyst Kitty
votes
Kublai Khan
in post 3733.
On Sun, Jun 6/16/13 @ 01:07p,
penguin_alien
votes
ThAdmiral
in post 3740.
On Sun, Jun 6/16/13 @ 03:07p,
Human Destroyer
votes
ThAdmiral
in post 3745.
On Sun, Jun 6/16/13 @ 03:18p,
Nachomamma8
votes
ThAdmiral
in post 3746.
On Sun, Jun 6/16/13 @ 05:10p,
CrashTextDummie
votes
ThAdmiral
in post 3752.
On Sun, Jun 6/16/13 @ 11:05p,
Nachomamma8
unvotes
ThAdmiral
and votes
Nero Cain
in post 3759.
On Sun, Jun 6/16/13 @ 11:28p,
Desperado
unvotes
ThAdmiral
and votes
Nero Cain
in post 3760.
On Mon, Jun 6/17/13 @ 06:02a,
Kublai Khan
votes
Amethyst Kitty
in post 3769.
On Mon, Jun 6/17/13 @ 06:50a,
Slandaar
votes
Amethyst Kitty
in post 3771.
On Mon, Jun 6/17/13 @ 07:28a,
Cephrir
unvotes
ThAdmiral
and votes
penguin_alien
in post 3772.
On Mon, Jun 6/17/13 @ 09:29a,
Bacde
votes
Nachomamma8
in post 3774.
On Mon, Jun 6/17/13 @ 09:53a,
Desperado
unvotes
Nero Cain
and votes
Amethyst Kitty
in post 3777.
On Mon, Jun 6/17/13 @ 11:03a,
Amethyst Kitty
votes
Desperado
in post 3792.
On Mon, Jun 6/17/13 @ 01:54p,
Amethyst Kitty
votes
Kublai Khan
in post 3821.
On Mon, Jun 6/17/13 @ 01:59p,
Bulbazak
unvotes
Bacde
and votes
Amethyst Kitty
in post 3822.
On Tue, Jun 6/18/13 @ 08:37a,
penguin_alien
unvotes
ThAdmiral
in post 3857.
On Tue, Jun 6/18/13 @ 11:53a,
PeregrineV
votes
Nachomamma8
in post 3869.
On Tue, Jun 6/18/13 @ 02:24p,
Cephrir
votes
Amethyst Kitty
in post 3885.
On Tue, Jun 6/18/13 @ 06:39p,
ThAdmiral
votes
Nachomamma8
in post 3900.
On Wed, Jun 6/19/13 @ 11:04a,
ArcAngel9
votes
Amethyst Kitty
in post 3921.
On Wed, Jun 6/19/13 @ 12:05p,
Seanald
unvotes
Cephrir
and votes
Amethyst Kitty
in post 3950.
On Wed, Jun 6/19/13 @ 12:28p,
penguin_alien
votes
ThAdmiral
in post 3962.
On Wed, Jun 6/19/13 @ 12:42p,
ffullisade
unvotes
Amethyst Kitty
in post 3966.
On Wed, Jun 6/19/13 @ 12:50p,
Bulbazak
unvotes
Amethyst Kitty
in post 3967.
On Wed, Jun 6/19/13 @ 02:52p,
Bulbazak
votes
Nero Cain
in post 3977.
On Wed, Jun 6/19/13 @ 04:04p,
ffullisade
votes
Amethyst Kitty
in post 3979.
On Wed, Jun 6/19/13 @ 05:24p,
CrashTextDummie
unvotes
ThAdmiral
and votes
Nero Cain
in post 3989.
On Wed, Jun 6/19/13 @ 07:29p,
Desperado
unvotes
Amethyst Kitty
and votes
ThAdmiral
in post 3991.
On Thu, Jun 6/20/13 @ 03:29a,
ArcAngel9
unvotes
Amethyst Kitty
and votes
Desperado
in post 4015.
On Thu, Jun 6/20/13 @ 04:56a,
Slandaar
votes
PeregrineV
in post 4016.
On Thu, Jun 6/20/13 @ 10:05a,
penguin_alien
unvotes
ThAdmiral
and votes
PeregrineV
in post 4017.
On Thu, Jun 6/20/13 @ 11:22p,
Desperado
unvotes
ThAdmiral
and votes
Seanald
in post 4038.
On Fri, Jun 6/21/13 @ 01:23p,
PeregrineV
votes
Seanald
in post 4056.
On Fri, Jun 6/21/13 @ 02:14p,
Seanald
unvotes
Amethyst Kitty
in post 4059.
On Mon, Jun 6/24/13 @ 03:45a,
Slandaar
votes
ThAdmiral
in post 4066.
On Mon, Jun 6/24/13 @ 08:24a,
ArcAngel9
votes
Seanald
in post 4070.
On Mon, Jun 6/24/13 @ 01:41p,
Bulbazak
unvotes
Nero Cain
and votes
Seanald
in post 4081.
On Mon, Jun 6/24/13 @ 02:02p,
Cephrir
unvotes
Amethyst Kitty
and votes
Seanald
in post 4083.
On Tue, Jun 6/25/13 @ 02:38a,
ThAdmiral
votes
Seanald
in post 4087.
On Tue, Jun 6/25/13 @ 07:02a,
Slandaar
votes
Seanald
in post 4088.
On Tue, Jun 6/25/13 @ 11:52a,
penguin_alien
unvotes
PeregrineV
and votes
Seanald
in post 4091.
On Tue, Jun 6/25/13 @ 04:08p,
Bulbazak
unvotes
Seanald
in post 4104.
On Tue, Jun 6/25/13 @ 04:20p,
Desperado
unvotes
Seanald
in post 4106.
On Wed, Jun 6/26/13 @ 04:17a,
Slandaar
votes
Rena
in post 4126.
On Wed, Jun 6/26/13 @ 10:33a,
Desperado
votes
Amethyst Kitty
in post 4133.
On Wed, Jun 6/26/13 @ 02:41p,
Bade
unvotes
Nachomamma8
in post 4153.
On Wed, Jun 6/26/13 @ 04:19p,
Desperado
unvotes
Amethyst Kitty
and votes
Nero Cain
in post 4170.
On Wed, Jun 6/26/13 @ 04:27p,
Bacde
votes
Nero Cain
in post 4171.
On Wed, Jun 6/26/13 @ 04:28p,
ffullisade
votes
Nero Cain
in post 4172.
On Wed, Jun 6/26/13 @ 06:01p,
Cephrir
votes
Nero Cain
in post 4198.
On Thu, Jun 6/27/13 @ 07:17a,
Nero Cain
votes
Bulbazak
in post 4231.
On Thu, Jun 6/27/13 @ 05:13p,
Rena
unvotes
Bacde
in post 4298.
On Fri, Jun 6/28/13 @ 01:13p,
ffullisade
unvotes
Nero Cain
in post 4333.
On Fri, Jun 6/28/13 @ 02:07p,
Bacde
votes
Nachomamma8
in post 4346.
On Fri, Jun 6/28/13 @ 04:35p,
Desperado
unvotes
Nero Cain
and votes
Seanald
in post 4374.
On Sat, Jun 6/29/13 @ 09:29a,
Kublai Khan
votes
Nero Cain
in post 4398.
On Sat, Jun 6/29/13 @ 11:46a,
penguin_alien
unvotes
Seanald
and votes
Nero Cain
in post 4402.
On Sun, Jun 6/30/13 @ 12:16p,
Human Destroyer
unvotes
ThAdmiral
and votes
Bulbazak
in post 4409.
On Mon, Jul 6/01/13 @ 00:13a,
Bulbazak
votes
Nero Cain
in post 4442.
On Mon, Jul 6/01/13 @ 09:14a,
Nachomamma8
unvotes
Nero Cain
and votes
Seanald
in post 4451.
On Mon, Jul 6/01/13 @ 09:59a,
Nachomamma8
votes
PeregrineV
in post 4458.
On Mon, Jul 6/01/13 @ 10:05a,
penguin_alien
votes
Seanald
in post 4461.
On Mon, Jul 6/01/13 @ 10:19a,
Cephrir
unvotes
Nero Cain
and votes
Seanald
in post 4464.

Yeah, I said that he voted before he asked me that question. And that looks like he was metadiving Seanald on his own and ran into a Seanald scum game where I played against him and wanted to compare notes.

I think a scum trajectory would be different, and probably wouldn't involve a vote at all.

fferyllt · Post Post #6365 (isolation #3) » Sun Oct 06, 2013 6:03 pm

We are all last men standing today. Unless we nolynch. The survivalist arguments are p much shit at this point.

fferyllt · Post Post #6386 (isolation #4) » Mon Oct 07, 2013 10:47 am

I am still thinking one scum left. Blue scum.

fferyllt · Post Post #6606 (isolation #5) » Wed Nov 27, 2013 4:41 am

In post 6451, ffullisade wrote:
In post 6450, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 6449, ffullisade wrote:Is there some reason why you're asking about the blindingly obvious?
Yes, because in 6644, you are intimating that Nacho would be dumb to kill you, while calling penguin scummy for suggesting it.

So if Nacho is not dumb-scum, but is scum, then who would he kill?
No, it is blindingly obvious. Scum-Nacho would kill you, and take PA and me to LYLO. And I would angst about it for two weeks, but reread stuff, including the posts leading up to BabySpice' replace-out, and say, yeah no that was not a town-pirouette and she didn't stick the flounce.

You have not budged on your nacho-is-red-scum case and you're holding on to the idea that there's 2 scum in the game.

So, tomorrow, if you are alive and you are correct and I am dead and flipped town, you have two choices:

- You're in LYLO with town and blue scum
- You're kingmaker and you decide which of blue or red scum win

When that sinks in, then please assume town can win. And drop your red scum case. And don't vote Nacho.

Or, join me today and let's end this 5+ month long game.

gg all. And very gg, PA. I would have cracked somewhere along the line between day 7 and day 9. You set up a difficult LYLO - but probably the best of what was available, and you played through it to a win.