Mobile Suit Gundam SEED Mafia - Game Over

[PeregrineV]

@AGar: I highly doubt Levi will flip scum, js.

Those scum games he said he already gave would sure help by giving a scum baseline for him. (I have a town baseline already).

[Sakura Hana]

Could you clarify that? I don't get your last post.

[talah]

Sakura, when you get done with your convo with Peregrine, can you please attack me for saying I wouldn't be inclined to wagon you, and then promptly wagonning you? Like... What the fuck's with that, huh?

[Sakura Hana]

Talah, idc what you do or not do atm.

My mind's on Levi atm.

[talah]

Nice. I still haven't bothered to examine Levi in depth fwiw.
As you were.

[Kdub]

Day 1 - Vote Count #14

DrDolittle (0)

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kanyeknowsbest (0)

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Belisarius (2)

- Kalimar, Pyrotechnics

waynegg (1)

- DrDolittle

pieguyn (1)

- Belisarius

AGar (0)

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PeregrineV (0)

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leviathan93 (1)

- AGar

Kise (0)

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Empking (1)

- Sakura Hana

Majiffy (2)

- DeasVail, NachoKoopa

Pyrotechnics (0)

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Sakura Hana (6)

- Matias, kanyeknowsbest, Empking, Natirasha, talah, pieguyn

NachoKoopa (0)

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DeasVail (1)

- mastin2

Matias (0)

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Mac (0)

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talah (0)

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Natirasha (0)

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mastin2 (0)

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Kalimar (0)

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No lynch (0)

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Not voting (6)

- Kise, Majiffy, Mac, leviathan93, PeregrineV, waynegg

21 votes available
11 votes needed to lynch

Deadline: (expired on 2013-10-18 12:44:27)

V/LA: Kalimar (10/2)

[Belisarius]

Sakura, when you get done with your convo with Peregrine, can you please attack me for saying I wouldn't be inclined to wagon you, and then promptly wagonning you? Like... What the fuck's with that, huh?

So you're saying you're being scummy. What do we do with people who are being scummy?

[DrDolittle]

Ready?
Reads on Deasvail and mastin. Reasons for the reads.
QUICK QUICK QUICK time's a-wasting!

No clue. They haven't been particularly striking me either way thus I have not ISOed them.
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Pyro is town.

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Vote Wayne. It's a good wagon.
He's trying to make allies all over the place, while sifting pointless votes that are irrelevant to the game. His reads are so feigned.

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Levi's posts seem like the common newbie scummy feel. But I don't think he's scum

[NachoKoopa]

Why you should vote Leviathan
By: AGar

[Sakura Hana]

I could make a "why you shouldn't vote leviathan By: Sakura Hana" but i'll save it for later.

[waynegg]

bbl

back, don't prod, reading

and that's everything from Kise though he's moe active elsewhere...

[waynegg]

Vote Wayne. It's a good wagon.
He's trying to make allies all over the place, while sifting pointless votes that are irrelevant to the game. His reads are so feigned

Are you sure? Need to make sure before I sheep you.

[AGar]

Why you should vote Leviathan
By: AGar

Don't you frowny-face me.

[pieguyn]

btw PeregrineV's active lurking is starting to tick me off = =

on top of that I can't even see any direction in his play. IMO we should wagon him next

Does my posting once a day irritate you?

it's that your posts have hardly anything in them. and even after reading all your posts I still can't tell what exactly you're trying to do

also the fact that you seem satisfied with just "once a day" seems really weird for me = =

We're clearly talking about two different posts. When you learn to read mine and infer which I'm referring to (it's not hard), I'll continue this line of conversation. GL.

no, you completely missed my point. you posted this

You should make the most of the opportunities you are getting to post.

but by this post

I would have probably replaced out if this game was approaching 20 pages by now. This is the first I've been able to make a post not on my phone in this thread.

that was the first opportunity he really had to post > < so what you said doesn't work

TL;DR - We have a pattern of refusal to establish anything close to concrete reads that he'll stand by since the beginning of the game, and no actual attempts to gather who he would like to see lynched. People are accusing others of active lurking, but this is literally the textbook definition of it. It's simply smoke in mirrors, making it look like he's doing something but rather doing not a damned thing this game.

the way this post is worded seems like using active lurking to redirect my attention off you, given I mentioned active lurking. = =
also, can you explain the last two links? as far as I can see he posted townreads in those posts, even if they weren't strong reads.

[talah]

So you're saying you're being scummy. What do we do with people who are being scummy?

Well I suppose "we the undefined collective", in answer to a question which rams a broken pool cue into the orifice of the notion that specificity is possible to convey using the English language, attempt to clarify both the premise and the question first.

"So you're saying you're being scummy"

No, I asked Sakura why she didn't challenge my inconsistency. It turns out I'm not on her radar, and that she has Levi on the mind. I accept that response because it means she

does

have an agenda and it looks to be scumhunting. I'll keep a peripheral eye on her and see.

If you really want to know, I voted Sakura because - priorities and priorities. Nati and I vote-teaming is a useful strategy, I think, and I'm a bit disappointed Des didn't follow along (although I missed the fact he was already voting Majiffy in the first place, which may have been a bit offputting).

My understanding - or idea - with the voting pool is that there's an inherent 'unvote before lynch' agreement between all members. It's something I'm inviting my town-leaning reads to participate and interact in.

Spoiler:

You're not invited because your dropped-logic argument on pieguyn was oblivious of the context of pie getting involved in the conversation to begin with. It wasn't an assertion that (s)he made in the first place, to be accountable as scummy for dropping it.

"What do we do with people who are being scummy?"

We? Do you mean good mafia players? Good scumhunters? Yourself notionally as part of one of these groups? Yourself by extension onto the universe of how you think all Mafia players should act?
People? Me? Your grouping of all people who act scummily according to you? People who act in the same way as I am acting?
Scummy? The way I acted in this particular sequence? The assertion you are making?

I suppose one would attempt to scumhunt, assess or assert.
Determine the motivations of the non-specific players who "are being scummy".

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Couple of follow-ups because I'm tired and have some work over the weekend.

Majiffy

- something about something about three posts. I can't remember what you said but you're irritating me using your weight on someone I've already townread probably when you thought it was still RVS. Get off pie.
Also I'm taking keen mental notes on your interactions with Deas.

dolittle

- another one. another naked townread. I don't know where you're getting this stuff from. Because you're not saying.

kayne

- where'd you go?

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My next post will probably have "fame", "lurksack" and "hall" in the title.

[Belisarius]

No, I asked Sakura why she didn't challenge my inconsistency.

...by pointing out said inconsistency.

Translation : "Hey guys look at me I'm reaction testing by acting scummy and it's working look look look check out how protown I'm being!"

Because frankly, it's perfectly logical to suppose SH -- and anyone else for that matter -- didn't notice. It's a pretty subtle inconsistency.

Your reaction reminds me of me in Open 480.

[talah]

Great, and pretty sure I wasn't in that game.

Yeah okay maybe it was a shitty reaction test.

Let me ask you - are you trying to sort me or are you trying to lynch me?

[talah]

Hey also: Fuck You.

VOTE: Beli

[Belisarius]

Great, and pretty sure I wasn't in that game.

Yeah okay maybe it was a shitty reaction test.

Let me ask you - are you trying to sort me or are you trying to lynch me?

You weren't in that game. But you're behaving in a manner consistent with the scum thought process I had during Open 480. When I see somebody thinking like scum-me, my first thought sure as hell isn't "Well, there's obvtown."

As for sort vs. lynch, I haven't decided yet.

[talah]

Look, I get pissed off when people attack when I *think* I should be coming across as obvtown. But I'm not exactly naive and other people's disbelief was one of the first things I encountered here - given that it was what I did first getting massively invested in a game.

Insert summary > good point > contraindication of your argument > encouragement to fuck off and scumhunt.

[Sakura Hana]

Unvote
Vote: talah

You seem too concerned about how you're coming across.

[talah]

Glad I'm online then.

Anything else to add?

[Sakura Hana]

How about you start by explainign your early claim? your doing scummy stuff on purpose to what end? and you trying to say that you're obvtown?

[talah]

You do realise I literally and provably haven't rolled scum before. I would have to be a fucking psychopath to be playing like I am as first time scum, wouldn't I?

ALSO WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED

TO YOUR THOUGHTS ON LEVI

[Sakura Hana]

I already said multiple times he's super town, but I can't explain why yet.