Kingmaker II-Game Over

[Zindaras]

Going purely on gut right now, I'd say voidybuns is the best execution.

[Thok]

Deadline March 12. To make the time official 8:00 PM Pacific Standard Time (GMT-8). In case of no execution Smashy dies of incompetence.

Let me know of any prods that are desired/needed.

VOTE COUNT

*King Smashy*
Sort of kind of LOE (LuckayLuck, Spectrumvoid, Dragonsofsummer, CES)

Cogito Ergo Sum (2): Mnowax
Der Hammer (2): LuckayLuck
DragonsofSummer (4): Mnowax, MOS, LuckayLuck
Fritzler (1): Toaster Streudel
Glork (1): MOS, Fritzler, Der Hammer, LuckayLuck
KaleiÐoscøpe (0): pablito
Lowell (0): spectrumvoid, Mnowax
LuckayLuck (5): spectrumvoid, Yosarian2
Mastermind of Sin (6):
Mnowax (3): MOS
Olio (1): pablito, LuckayLuck, Toaster Streudel, Yosarian2
pablito (2): olio, petroleumjelly, RafK, MOS
petroleumjelly (1): Spectrumvoid, DragonsofSummer, Der Hammer
RafK (2): spectrumvoid, Yosarian2, Cogito Ergo Sum
Shanba (0): MOS, SpectrumVoid, RafK
spectrumvoid (5): Glork
Toaster Streudel (2): DragonsofSummer, LuckayLuck
Yosarian2 (4): DragonsofSummer, Cogito Ergo Sum, MOS
Zindaras (0): Yosarian2, DragonsofSummer

Please let me know if this needs corrections.

[mnowax]

Kil: DoS

of the following LOE, Dos is most scummy in my opinion.

[DragonsofSummer]

Mnowax care to explain that more?

First we don't have an LOE yet, unless I missed it, and second you aren't even voting for me...

[DragonsofSummer]

Mod could you please delete the extra post?

I got some weird error message the first time I posted and I guess it posted anyway.

Mod Edit: Double post deleted.

[LuckayLuck]

LL, why are you more suspicious of Yos? You explained somewhat why SV went from very townie to getting your vote, but so did Yos. Why did that happen?

Well, here's my vote on Yos:

Proxy Yosarian vote, RELUCTANTLY, from Glork's list which I must say I don't like very much. Two months ago(?) I stated that I like MoS and nightson both. I have not had the opportunity to re-evaluate if I still like them yet so my belief here is actually very dangerous since I really don't have much against Yos especially after the Pooky-Yos thing which I only briefly skimmed over. But still, I trust Glork a great deal. So I go with Yos.

what I'm trying to say is that I didn't like PJ's list at all, but the best of the bunch was Yos. Looks like he has a better list now.

Unvote Yosarian

Vote Der Hammer

[Mastermind of Sin]

Going purely on gut right now, I'd say voidybuns is the best execution.

What's the reasoning against SV again?

[petroleumjelly]

LL, why are you more suspicious of Yos? You explained somewhat why SV went from very townie to getting your vote, but so did Yos. Why did that happen?

Well, here's my vote on Yos:

Proxy Yosarian vote, RELUCTANTLY, from Glork's list which I must say I don't like very much. Two months ago(?) I stated that I like MoS and nightson both. I have not had the opportunity to re-evaluate if I still like them yet so my belief here is actually very dangerous since I really don't have much against Yos especially after the Pooky-Yos thing which I only briefly skimmed over. But still, I trust Glork a great deal. So I go with Yos.

what I'm trying to say is that

I didn't like PJ's list at all

, but the best of the bunch was Yos. Looks like he has a better list now.

Unvote Yosarian

Vote Der Hammer

I assume you mean you didn't like

Glork's

list (which you state in the very thing you are quoting)? I have thought Yos2 was pro-town for much of the game, and I don't recall a time I have voted him in this game (though I don't exactly have my voting records out right now, so I'm not going to bother to verify this at the moment).

Now that I think on it, I should probably read over his posts again to see if I still think he is town. But then again I feel the same about most of the players in the game. I'll do it Day Four, assuming I'm still around by that time. I've been ready for this day to be over with for too long already.

[petroleumjelly]

Also, Luckay, did you think Yos2 was town at the town you made your vote on Yos2? And if so, why didn't you just defer back to your " I would tell Glork and Yos2 that they are both town and should work together" response?

It seems to me like you were (at the time) trying to place an obligation on yourself to vote for exactly one person from each of {Glork, Pablito, and myself}'s respective suspicions... and that is

definitely

not a good way to play. If you don't think X is scum, you shouldn't vote for X simply because somebody you think is town thinks X is scum (especially since there is the possibility that the person you think is town is in fact scum). Seems like an easy rut to get yourself stuck in with your particular playstyle.

In fact, I will make a suggestion for your playstyle, which may help you in the future.

Instead of voting for who 'townspeople' X, Y, and Z vote for, you should vote for people you think are the

least likely to be townspeople

based off of your "townie tells" style. Your most telling post in this entire game was really where you made that excel post with people you thought "most likely to be town" and "least likely to be town" based off of your tells. In this way, you still have suspicions of you own - it's simply that you don't have direct 'scum tells' but instead a lack of 'town tells'.

[Mastermind of Sin]

That's what I like about his playstyle. I find it somewhat refreshing, if not at least generally effective. People higher up on his lists have tended to be more likely protown, from what I've seen.

[olio]

mod

, I have to ask for a replacement.

Serious stuff going in real-life and I need some time to clear my thoughts. Thanks for the game everyone.

[Mastermind of Sin]

Aww, we'll miss you Olio

[Yosarian2]

LL: The interesting question, though, is why did you decide you would rather have me lynched rather then pooky?

You had given some logical arguments about why you thought I was town; your arguments for why you thought Pooky was town was basically "he came back and made one post I liked". Care to clarify why, exactally, you thought I was a better lynch then Pooky, if those were your two possible choices?

[Thok]

mod

, I have to ask for a replacement.

Serious stuff going in real-life and I need some time to clear my thoughts. Thanks for the game everyone.

Sorry to see you go.

ThAdmiral replaces olio, effectve once he posts in the thread.

Deadline in roughly four days.

[Shanba]

mod

, I have to ask for a replacement.

Serious stuff going in real-life and I need some time to clear my thoughts. Thanks for the game everyone.

Sorry to see you go.

ThAdmiral replaces olio, effectve once he posts in the thread.

Deadline in roughly four days.

Isn't he the one who's trying to replace into every game that's currently running on the site + some of the finished ones?
Of the people on the king's execution list, I want SV dead most, although I'm beginning to see LL as scum as well. His last few posts don't really sit right with me. I can't really see the case against DoS or CES

[LuckayLuck]

LL: The interesting question, though, is why did you decide you would rather have me lynched rather then pooky?

You had given some logical arguments about why you thought I was town; your arguments for why you thought Pooky was town was basically "he came back and made one post I liked". Care to clarify why, exactally, you thought I was a better lynch then Pooky, if those were your two possible choices?

I hated both of Glork's candidates, but I less-hated Pooky because I didn't believe that he had posted enough to come to a conclusion to, one day when I was bored I skimmed over a thread because townies had lynched scum like 3 in a row and Pooky was the gangleader of that in, and Pooky's one post coming back was townie-ish. Anyways, Glork apparently knew Pooky more, and me missing the first day may // the coincidence of me reading the thread pooky was owning in // my own townie tell being wrong or bias could have been what led me to make a "wrong" choice that pooky was a worse lynch.

[LuckayLuck]

less-hated you* (Yos) I should have said, typo

[Mastermind of Sin]

Erm, I wasn't confused until you fixed the typo...

[ThAdmiral]

I am replacing olio. Just need a sec to do a re-read of the thread.

[Yosarian2]

If you can read this thread in a sec, I'll be quite impressed.

[Glork]

If you can read this thread in a sec, I'll be quite impressed.

[ThAdmiral]

yeah, probably more like a day.

[LuckayLuck]

less-hated you* (Yos) I should have said, typo

ok, my typo wasn't a typo
my fix is a typo

Correction: I liked a Yos lynch more than a Pooky lynch. lfjsdhgl.

[Mastermind of Sin]

yeah, probably more like a day.

If you can read this thread in a day, I'll be quite impressed.

[Der Hammer]

took me about 3 months.